ChaosBringers, Reborn!

[VivaLaValenwind]

I have to admit, I was looking when Vincent changed into both Galian and Chaos - how SE would handle the obvious points of anatomy. With Galian, the cape becomes a loin-cloth sort of thing and with Chaos - well, it seems that he has a guard, and then dare I say it looks misty down there. :p I'm so bad, I know.

Hahhahaha "misty" Yeah i wasn't too excited about Galian's little skirt thing...i can't come up with any words for it, it's just strange I am curious as to how that little metal symbol thing stays on his chest but whatever

I don't think Chaos is so much as bishie as cool looking. I have to say it/him/vincent/thing freaked me out in some parts of the CG scenes 8D I kinda liked him cause he looked different as in no character has been created like that before but i could be wrong Although Vincent be a bishie of hotness! Grrr.

 

[Mantichorus]

@KAM: OK, I only know the Duran Duran song out of those, so I can't comment on which would fit. However, I've been listening to Robbie Williams' (not to be confused with comedian Robin "Jumanji", "Mrs Doubtfire" Williams) album "We've Been Expecting You". Soo many Vincentesque songs - "Strong", "No Regrets" (and those are the first two tracks on the flippin' CD!! I'll leave it there).

@ARI: OK, can I just point out the irony of you saying "what feels natural" and mentioning "reality" when referring to Vincent transforming into the embodiment of entropy? XD Still, it might be like an anime transformation sequence and Vincent gets nuddie before taking on his new form. 'Twould explain why SE cover it with a blast of unearthly power.

@VIVA: yeah, Vincent's pretty, even I agree with that. XD

@EVERYONE: sorry this is short, typing it up before going to work cos the interwebz wouldnae load last night. :-/

 

[Arianna]

@ARI: OK, can I just point out the irony of you saying "what feels natural" and mentioning "reality" when referring to Vincent transforming into the embodiment of entropy? XD Still, it might be like an anime transformation sequence and Vincent gets nuddie before taking on his new form. 'Twould explain why SE cover it with a blast of unearthly power.

Uhmmmm... Sorry, what did you mean with the 'irony' part? I reread what I typed before, and I think I'm getting the point...

I think it is - remember when Chaos first appeared, it was when Vincent (He?) was blasted through some rubble due to Rosso's tantrum, using her sonic punch. Vincent whole bodied shimmered and glowed that violet-red, with some black and white dancing about.

... But even when he's in full Chaos 'mode', his private regions have a black mist about it. ::p:

 

[Mantichorus]

Just that it's so fantastical and mystical, but we're trying to inject reality into it. Mind you, it's what Joss Whedon recommends and he usually knows what he's talking about... So, in brief: we're talking about what's natural for the supernatural. ...OK, it probably works as science in FFVII, but only in the same way as the Speed Force in DC Comics.

And whenever he transforms into any form, the screen either cuts away, or there's a burst of power from his body that obscures it! I think we may be on to something here! Or, possibly, on something.

...You spend far too much time looking at the nethers. Saying that, I think there may be a codpiece of sorts. But, my personal stance is that Chaos has a male gender, but is sexless (i.e., nothing down there at all, but has a masculine voice and refers to itself in male terms).

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

...You spend far too much time looking at the nethers. Saying that, I think there may be a codpiece of sorts. But, my personal stance is that Chaos has a male gender, but is sexless (i.e., nothing down there at all, but has a masculine voice and refers to itself in male terms).

Ah, maybe he's just asexual I just wonder if chaos inhabited another persons body if it/he/she/thing would look different since the Chaos we know seems to rip off of Vincent's goods.

 

[Kamui]

*staggers in brain dead* And I thought I had issues when I spent twenty minutes manipulating the camera to get random ass shots of Vincent. XD I should play DoC this weekend... *drool* Um, yes I still have issues, anyway. As to the issue of Chaos's nether regions, which I am amused at the discussion that has progressed, I have some very bizarre evidence I will edit into the post because I need my external hard drive which is at home. But I have actual DoC screens of Chaos we can speculate over.

 

[Arianna]

Kamui - I order you to share! ... Please. ::p:

Manti - Can't a girl have some fun.

 

[Mantichorus]

@VIVA: yeah, I have to agree. If Chaos possessed someone else, it probably would look different. Mind you, as we never found out where Vincent's costume came from, for all we know, Chaos would put whoever it possessed in the same clothing.

@KAM: what can I say? Some reason, been in a bit of a good mood lately, so I'm more playful. Back on ACF, I'da no doubt gone off on a "oh God, I can't know that!" Mind you, things are starting to look more sucky...

@ARI: wait, you're a girl?! Holy sh--! ;P Sure, go ahead. As long as you're not expecting me to clean up after the party's over.

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

As to the issue of Chaos's nether regions, which I am amused at the discussion that has progressed, I have some very bizarre evidence I will edit into the post because I need my external hard drive which is at home. But I have actual DoC screens of Chaos we can speculate over.

Hahahaha his "nether regions" Teehee! So i take it as we will all be looking at crotch shots to determine our answer for this discussion?

 

[Mantichorus]

Hahahaha his "nether regions" Teehee! So i take it as we will all be looking at crotch shots to determine our answer for this discussion?

Oh God, I can't know that!

OK, looking at the FF wikia, I've found this article on Chaos. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_(Final_Fantasy_VII) It looks like he has, um, "webbing" down there, as it were...

OK, this is getting weirder and weirder... >.<

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

Oh God, I can't know that!

OK, looking at the FF wikia, I've found this article on Chaos. http://finalfantasy.wikia.com/wiki/Chaos_(Final_Fantasy_VII) It looks like he has, um, "webbing" down there, as it were...

OK, this is getting weirder and weirder... >.<

Tis true It's life fluffy undies! But im sure its sharp down there hahaha XD But i must note that nothing covers his ass 8O How fun this is! Btw why is mr.star trek man there

 

[Mantichorus]

Well, Picard is there cos he's in amongst the smilies for this site. And they don't have a traditional facepalm smilie... I really need to make those WEWY smilies I keep meaning to.

X. I'm fairly certain that Chaos itself doesn't have such parts of its anatomy. Uh, how can I explain this? OK, you know how the angels in Dogma were? Kinda like that.

Now, for the more prudish amongst us (i.e. me), please can we move the discussion away from crotches? kthanx

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

Well, Picard is there cos he's in amongst the smilies for this site. And they don't have a traditional facepalm smilie... I really need to make those WEWY smilies I keep meaning to.

X. I'm fairly certain that Chaos itself doesn't have such parts of its anatomy. Uh, how can I explain this? OK, you know how the angels in Dogma were? Kinda like that.

Now, for the more prudish amongst us (i.e. me), please can we move the discussion away from crotches? kthanx

Well i've never seen Dogma but okay I shall start a new discussion since this is making you uncomfortable Anyone think that Cloud and Vincent are too similar in personality? I think Nomura said so but he also said that Vincent's more "mature" than Cloud. If that means he doesn't going around telling people i'm depressed and emo then thats possible but i dunno i always saw them as best friends. (minus Zack since well ya know...he be dead)

 

[Arianna]

Anyone think that Cloud and Vincent are too similar in personality? I think Nomura said so but he also said that Vincent's more "mature" than Cloud.

This was said in an interview; I am not sure the date or total subject of the interviews though. Basically, Cloud and Vincent are the same, but Vincent is older.

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

This was said in an interview; I am not sure the date or total subject of the interviews though. Basically, Cloud and Vincent are the same, but Vincent is older.

True dat I just find it hilarious in AC when they haven't seen eachother in two years Vincen maliciously grabs Cloud's diseased arm 8D Love squeeze!

 

[Arianna]

True dat I just find it hilarious in AC when they haven't seen eachother in two years Vincen maliciously grabs Cloud's diseased arm 8D Love squeeze!

I took it more as, 'does this hurt?' *yank!*

 

[Kamui]

Lol, I remember that scene, it was really epic. I just came up with the blooper for that:

(Scene opens up with Vincent walking over to grab Cloud's arm)

V: I know you have it Cloud.
C: Have what?
V: My conditioner. I put a trap on it to inject trespassers with Geostigma.
C: What?! I didn't! I never!
Z: (off set) Hey Vinny! That's for letting me borrow your conditioner?


Okay yeah that was random, but it's the best I can do on Ninja day in the middle of Spanish before my GSA meeting. So anyway.

Um, I was planning on doing some artwork during English if anyone's interested in me putting it up later.

 

[Mantichorus]

Well i've never seen Dogma but okay I shall start a new discussion since this is making you uncomfortable

OK, well, in Dogma, the angels have no genitals, so it's just smooth, err, "down there". Like the majority of kids' dolls. They also have the, umm, "gluteous maximus" of the backside without an anus.

And it's not that it's making me uncomfortable as such, just that you all seem to be focusing on his groin.

Lol. My view of it was Vincent was starting to do this important explanation, when he came to the conclusion that Cloud was daydreaming. So, he just grabs the arm as: "Hey! Pay attention."

Kam, course we'd like to see your artwork.

Heh, before that interview came out, I found this poem, and I thought it fit Vincent to Cloud quite well. Mind you, so does the Billy Joel song "Tell Her About It"... Anyway, yeah. AC is set two years after FFVII, remember, so check the title.

TWO YEARS LATER

HAS no one said those daring
Kind eyes should be more learn'd?
Or warned you how despairing
The moths are when they are burned?
I could have warned you, but you are young,
So we speak a different tongue.

O you will take whatever's offered
And dream that all the world's a friend.
Suffer as your mother suffered,
Be as broken in the end.
But I am old and you are young,
And I speak a barbarous tongue.

William Butler Yeats

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

OK, well, in Dogma, the angels have no genitals, so it's just smooth, err, "down there". Like the majority of kids' dolls. They also have the, umm, "gluteous maximus" of the backside without an anus.

And it's not that it's making me uncomfortable as such, just that you all seem to be focusing on his groin.

Lol. My view of it was Vincent was starting to do this important explanation, when he came to the conclusion that Cloud was daydreaming. So, he just grabs the arm as: "Hey! Pay attention."

Kam, course we'd like to see your artwork.

Heh, before that interview came out, I found this poem, and I thought it fit Vincent to Cloud quite well. Mind you, so does the Billy Joel song "Tell Her About It"... Anyway, yeah. AC is set two years after FFVII, remember, so check the title.

Ah so Vincent is the "listen to me biayotch" type Song does fit well too, not sure if i've ever listened to Billy Joel, i shall have to check him out. Also i dunno if i've mentioned this before but if any of you have seen the bleach musical (throws up) Vincent's japanese voice actor is in it and boy did it disturb me (T^T)

 

[Cloudskye]

Ah so Vincent is the "listen to me biayotch" type Song does fit well too, not sure if i've ever listened to Billy Joel, i shall have to check him out. Also i dunno if i've mentioned this before but if any of you have seen the bleach musical (throws up) Vincent's japanese voice actor is in it and boy did it disturb me (T^T)

Haha, I agree with you. And Billy Joel is cool.

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

I posted this in the DOC thread but i'll ask it here too since ya know we be Vincent fans! You guys think they're going to make a Case of Vincent for on a way to a smile? (sorry if this was asked already) I have a feeling they won't on a account of SE already making Dirge and explaining his whole background and what not which makes me again dissapointed already but yeah~ any insights? Oh yeah and a new fanart

 

[Mantichorus]

:o Whoa, Viva, that pic's awesome. Great job. Thanks for sharing.

You hadn't mentioned that before. And, when you say Bleach musical... as in, a musical based on the manga/anime BLEACH?? 'Smad.

I think the "Case of Vincent" thing has been brought up before... somewhere... and, yeah, I think that was the conclusion reached.

OK, here's the lyrics to "Tell Her About It". Remember, Vincent to Cloud. AC the Musical.

Listen boy I don't want to see you
Let a good thing slip away
You know I don't like watching anybody
Make the same mistakes I made
She's a real nice girl and she's always there for you
But a nice girl wouldn't tell you what you should do

Listen boy I'm sure that you think
You got it all under control
You don't want somebody telling you
The way to stay in someone's soul
You're a big boy now and you'll never let her go
But that's just the kind of thing she ought to know

Tell her about it, tell her everything you feel
Give her every reason to accept that you're for real
Tell her about it, tell her all your crazy dreams
Let her know you need her, let her know how much she means

Listen boy, it's not automatically a certain guarantee
To insure yourself, you've got to provide
Communication constantly
When you love someone, you're always insecure
And there's only one good way to reassure

Tell her about it, let her know how much you care
When she can't be with you, tell her you wish you were there
Tell her about it, everyday before you leave
Pay her some attention, give her something to believe

Cause now and then, she'll get to worrying
Just because you haven't spoken for so long
Though you may not have done anything
Will that be a consolation when she's gone

Listen boy, it's good information
From a man who's made mistakes
Just a word or two that she gets from you
Could be the difference that it makes
She's a trusting soul, she's put her trust in you
But a girl like that won't tell you what you should do

Tell her about it, tell her everything you feel
Give her every reason to accept that you're for real
Tell her about it, tell her all your crazy dreams
Let her know you need her, let her know how much she means

Tell her about it
Tell her how you feel right now
Just tell her about it
The girl don't want to wait too long
You got to tell her about it
Tell her now and you won't go wrong
You got to tell her about it
Before it gets too late
You got to tell her about it
You know the girl don't want to wait
You got to tell her about it
You got to tell, tell, tell her about it
Tell her about it

 

[VivaLaValenwind]

:o Whoa, Viva, that pic's awesome. Great job. Thanks for sharing.

You hadn't mentioned that before. And, when you say Bleach musical... as in, a musical based on the manga/anime BLEACH?? 'Smad.

I think the "Case of Vincent" thing has been brought up before... somewhere... and, yeah, I think that was the conclusion reached.

OK, here's the lyrics to "Tell Her About It". Remember, Vincent to Cloud. AC the Musical.

Hehe thats pretty good, I think its funny how Vin calls Cloud "boy" And yeah the musical is yes...the manga/anime sadly. It's very disturbing to watch, if you're interested Vincent's voice actor plays Zaraki Kenpachi in the musical. It's on youtube but i warn you it will scar you for life (T^T)

 

[Arianna]

Yes, Viva, I think your work is great; didn't say that on deviantArt yet.

 

[Mantichorus]

Viva, that's part of the original lyrics. But yes, it's pretty funny. I just have this image in my head, of when Vincent's meant to be telling Cloud all about Jenova, Geostigma and Kadaj and all that, he just breaks into song. And everyone else gets in on it, too (leaving Cloud growing bigger and bigger sweat drops).

...OK, that's pret-ty weird... I can't see why anyone would think to make a BLEACH musical in the first place.