Doctor Who!!~

[Sheva Alomar]

I bring you links:

http://blastr.com/2010/10/1st-look-at-the-filming-o.php

http://blastr.com/2010/10/its-official-doctor-who-i.php

 

[Super Mario]

I raise you:

http://blastr.com/2010/10/image-of-the-day-doctor-w.php

 

[Mantichorus]

Give me a few days, and I'll have some piccies of Paul McGann in a new Eighth Doctor costume, with a new sonic screwdriver (only for the benefit of Big Finish audios, IIRC, though).

Oh yeah, and back along, I said how Sylvester McCoy was rumoured to be involved in The Hobbit?

Sylvester McCoy has told fans he has been cast as Radagast the Brown in the upcoming film The Hobbit.

Rumours of the Seventh Doctor's involvement in the Peter Jackson film have been around for a while but this is the first conformation from the actor that he has been offered a role in the movie.

McCoy was speaking at the Armageddon Expo in Auckland yesterday. It is understood that McCoy had meetings in Wellington with Jackson and co-producer and co-writer Philippa Boyens last week, where he was offered the role, but that no contracts have yet been signed.

The Hobbit is slated for release in two parts, the first due in 2012. Production is currently delayed due to a dispute involving the New Zealand branch of Actors Equity.

 

[Mantichorus]

Paul McGann is currently in New Zealand, a guest at the Armageddon Pop Culture Expo (Auckland, New Zealand) this weekend. On Saturday he appeared on a panel and revealed what is to be the 'new' costume for the Eighth Doctor.

The costume consists of a double-breasted black Naval jacket, with gold buttons. Part of of the ensemble is a courier pouch bag. However, the shirt and trousers were actually McGann's own and not part of the costume.

Also revealed is a new sonic screwdriver, courtesy of Weta Workshop, the wizards behind the effects on The Lord of the Rings. The screwdriver is similar to the one used by the current Doctor, Matt Smith, but has a wooden handle.

The revision comes some fourteen years since the original Eighth Doctor image was established for the 1996 TV Movie; this is now felt to be a little out of date and the new costume - still a work in progress - is said to be used for future promotional purposes.

No other information in known at present, other than this is an unofficial costume - but it is believed to have the blessing of the BBC.

http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/...rmageddonExpo2010/mcgann-armageddonexpo-1.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/...po2010/mcgann-armageddonexpo-jonpreddle-1.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/...po2010/mcgann-armageddonexpo-jonpreddle-2.jpg
http://i595.photobucket.com/albums/...po2010/mcgann-armageddonexpo-jonpreddle-3.jpg

Adri, mumble, just managed to read your links. Damn you both for beating me to the punch. Still, thanks for sharing.

 

[Super Mario]

Wait, Number 8 is coming back to the series? o _ O sorry I haven't followed S5 since Victory of the Daleks.

 

[Mantichorus]

Not as far as we know (although, I'd love for him to reappear). The new outfit is purely for promoting the Doctor Who audios done by Big Finish (and you should have stuck with S5 - Vincent and the Doctor was by far the best episode of the season).

A friend sent me a new image in an e-mail over the weekend: I'm going to investigate whether it's pure fan work or canon. As, if it is canon, it seems that

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the Master and Rassilon weren't the only ones ressurected by the Time Lords during the Last Time War

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[Ryushikaze]

Found an awesome Dr. Who fancomic the other day.

http://comics.shipsinker.com/?id=16

The 10 doctors- exactly what it says on the tin. All first 10 doctors in a massive crossover event.

Also includes several other stories, such as Forever Janette, a 5th/8th doctor and Forever Knight crossover, Stalker of Norfolk, a 3rd doctor story set after Jo but before Sarah Jane, and Outrage, which is ongoing and is a 6th Doctor and Jem and the Holograms crossover.
There's a good mix of serious and whimsy in all of them, and I'm expecting a heavy acid trip on the Jem story.

 

[Max Caulfield]

Christmas is getting closer, guys...

 

[Russell]

Christmas is getting closer, guys...

 

[X-SOLDIER]

So my dad picked up Season 5 on BluRay, and I watched "The 11th Hour" last night. I don't know if it's BBC America, or if ALL the tv versions got this, but the episode was MUCH longer than I remembered. Prisoner Zero talks about the Pandorica and the source of the crack, and Amy locks the Doctor's tie in a car door.

Are ALL the episodes like this? Because if so, I'll have to borrow the series and re-watch it.


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[Sheva Alomar]

Just "11th Hour", really. It was the premiere of the new Doctor, so I think it goes without saying that it had to be slightly longer. Other than that, the other episodes are standard running time. Of course, watching Doctor Who: Confidential is worth the time and is technically its own show, but delves into each respective episode: production, costumes, etc.

 

[DLPB]

I used to like Doctor Who from the old series. Yes it was cheap and often looked silly, but it had story and proper development. These modern day Who's, sadly, are about flashy graphics, and out of control scenes played through at 100 mph. Most time the plots have more holes than Paris Hilton's brain.

It is a dumbing down for today's viewer and I think a lot has been lost in that transition. Some of the episodes have been ok though, Father's Day (if I remember the name), I kinda liked.

Overall, I am no longer a watcher. Oh well.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Just "11th Hour", really. It was the premiere of the new Doctor, so I think it goes without saying that it had to be slightly longer. Other than that, the other episodes are standard running time. Of course, watching Doctor Who: Confidential is worth the time and is technically its own show, but delves into each respective episode: production, costumes, etc.

Quite glad for that, thanks for letting me know! I'll still see about borrowing them for the Doctor Who: Confidential.

I'm still VERY excited about finding out who River is in Season 6.

***POTENTIALLY HUGE FUCKING SPOILERS IN THIS LINK***
i09's done a careful analysis of the footage from the trailer, with the information that they've gotten from set visits, etc.

Spoiler: @DLPB

These modern day Who's, sadly, are about flashy graphics, and out of control scenes played through at 100 mph. Most time the plots have more holes than Paris Hilton's brain.

It is a dumbing down for today's viewer and I think a lot has been lost in that transition. Some of the episodes have been ok though, Father's Day (if I remember the name), I kinda liked.

Overall, I am no longer a watcher. Oh well.

If you're not watching the show, I don't think that you can properly judge whether or not there are "more plot holes than Paris Hilton's brain." Season 5's "The Time of the Angels" has an incredibly intense moment

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that comes back to hit you in the face during the season finale. You actually see the Doctor from a much later point in time talking to Amy about very important events that you're unaware of, until it's shown happening again later on

. While some shows are dumbed down, most series rely on the viewer paying attention to small details throughout the seasons, not to mention the concepts like quantum-locking and time travel are often used in rather complex ways. There's no need to nay-say something you don't really even have enough information to form a proper opinion on. If you'd watched the newer seasons through, and THEN had something to say about them, that would be something else entirely.

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[Max Caulfield]

I honestly thought that the Christmas Special was awesome.

I have a question, though. Wouldn't boy Kazran and grown-up Kazran create a time paradox? In "Father's Day" (in series 1), the 9th Doctor doesn't want Rose to hold herself because he said it would create a time paradox. Boy Kazran and grown-up Kazran hugged each other.

Why no time paradox?

 

[X-SOLDIER]

The "Blinovitch Limitation Effect" is actually discussed in io9's article about the Christmas Special.

And the other nitpick does have to do with the way time travel is portrayed here — apparently, the Blinovitch Limitation Effect has been abolished for good, something which will only matter to handful of fans. (As recently as "Father's Day," Rose was not supposed to touch Baby Rose, or bad things would happen. Now, apparently, it's all good.) In general, though, I feel as though Moffat's version of time travel on Doctor Who is creeping ever closer to the idea he satirized in "The Curse of the Fatal Death," in which you can do almost anything, with no limits. It makes the Doctor a good deal more godlike — it's like power inflation in superhero comics, where Superman used to leap over tall buildings, and now he can tow planets through space.

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[Ryushikaze]

So, the Christmas special- actually a christmas related plot. And one where time muckery plays an active role.

I liked it. Gambon was excellent in it. I also think

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The doctor actually did do something to save the girl at the end, so that her last day wasn't, given the upbeat note the special ended on. Sort of a reward for making the ultimate sacrifice, he makes it not a sacrifice at all. Ironically, very Easter for a Christmas special.

What did you lot think?

EDIT: There have been ways Against the Paradox before, when the Time Lords were still around.
The Doctor might have rebuilt or come across the technology to do so again.

Incidentally, the effects of the paradox aren't always as dramatic as Father's day. Brig just zotted himself.
Maybe Kazran's paradox is something more subtle, and hell, more benign.

 

[DLPB]

Or another theory... time travel isn't possible at all. I am with that theory. Sorry guys Although I love a good time travel paradox story.

 

[Max Caulfield]

The "Blinovitch Limitation Effect" is actually discussed in io9's article about the Christmas Special.



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First they eliminate the fact that the Doctor can regenerate only so many times and now this?! They're starting to make it too easy on themselves!

I also think

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The doctor actually did do something to save the girl at the end, so that her last day wasn't, given the upbeat note the special ended on. Sort of a reward for making the ultimate sacrifice, he makes it not a sacrifice at all. Ironically, very Easter for a Christmas special.

What did you lot think?

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Well, considering how often Doctor Who episodes turn out to be bittersweet, it would be nice if things were a happy ending. My only issue is there wasn't any hint (as far as I could see) that the Doctor did anything to save her. And in the end, Amy asked how (or where or something) Kazran and Abigail were spending their last day together and the Doctor doesn't contradict her.

So, he might have done something, but there's no proof or hint.

 

[Ryushikaze]

First they eliminate the fact that the Doctor can regenerate only so many times and now this?! They're starting to make it too easy on themselves!

Both of those are things that can be gotten around with sufficient jiggery, and have been since the days of the 3rd doctor for not being near yourself, and the 4th as far as getting past regeneration limits.

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Well, considering how often Doctor Who episodes turn out to be bittersweet, it would be nice if things were a happy ending. My only issue is there wasn't any hint (as far as I could see) that the Doctor did anything to save her. And in the end, Amy asked how (or where or something) Kazran and Abigail were spending their last day together and the Doctor doesn't contradict her.

So, he might have done something, but there's no proof or hint.

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True, there's not strict statement, but the odd bit here is that the bittersweet ramble comes before the exultation to cap the special, which indicates to me that we're supposed to leave with the exultation and celebration, rather than the idea that it's bittersweet.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

To over-analyze a bit about the Blinovitch Limitation Effect, now that I've been thinking about it, young and old Kazran Sardick hugging does not break the rules, based on the theories listed on the wiki. It has to do with the direction of time travel, and the creation of a paradox.

The way everything happens in this is episode very unique. Kazran's timeline is being altered and shown to him as it's happening. He's aware that his timeline is being altered, but he doesn't directly have a hand in it. EVEN when meeting himself, he's not altering his own timeline. His interaction with his younger self is specifically a move made by the Doctor in order to change him in his "present" state (old), by showing his younger self what he's become, thus causing him NOT to grow in to the bitter old man, like his father.

If old Kazaran had gone back in time and spoken with his younger self, that may have run into an issue, due to the limitation of being able to go back and alter your own timeline (what the Blinovitch Limitation Effect is really there to do). With the Doctor bringing Young Kazaran forward this effect is essentially null, because Kazaran isn't affecting his own timeline, it's a part of his present.

Look at it this way:

KEY
• Young Kazaran: Kazaran(Y)
• Old Kazaran: Kazaran(A)

Theory on Kazaran(A/Y) interaction that would be affected by the BLE
Example A: Kazaran(A) goes back in time and meets with Kazaran(Y).
Result: Likely Paradox. This interaction will likely cause Kazaran(Y) to grow up differently. This different Kazaran(A) MIGHT never perform the time travel that caused him to change. Thus the Blinovitch Limitation Effect needs to be in place to prevent a paradox.

What happens in the episode, and why THIS Kazaran(A/Y) interaction isn't affected by the BLE
Example B: Kazaran(Y) goes forward in time and meets with Kazaran(A).
Result: No paradox. Any interaction that Kazaran(Y) has with Kazaran(A) won't alter the fact that Kazaran(Y) has already peformed the time travel. While this changes the personality of who he becomes as Kazaran(A), there's no risk of paradox.

The Christmas Episode doesn't break the Blinovitch Limitation Effect as I understand it.


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[Xelazander]

& Catherine Jenkins (sp?) is hawt

 

[X-SOLDIER]

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[Mantichorus]

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"There are no monsters in the Oval Office." Surely, that all depends on who occupies the Presidency?

Mixed feelings about the next season. Of the previous one, only Vincent and the Doctor actually made me feel emotionally involved with the story. Also, Moffat isn't meeting my expectations as script editor/producer, when you consider the eps he submitted to the RTD headed seasons, plus his own Jekyll mini-series. =/

 

[Mantichorus]

Doctor Who books reissued with intros by Neil Gaiman, RTD and more

BBC Books is reissuing six of the old Target novelisations of the classic series, with new introductions by some well-known names


On 6 July, BBC Books will be bringing out reprints of half a dozen classic novelisations of the original series, as originally published by Target books.

All six books will feature classic covers by artist Chris Achilleos, and come with a new introduction penned by a well-known name.

Here's full details:

Neil Gaiman provides an introduction to Doctor Who And The Daleks (an adap of TV story "The Daleks").

Fast Show/Young Bond chap Charlie Higson provides an introduction to Doctor Who And The Crusaders (="The Crusade") by David Whitaker.

Stephen Baxter introduces Doctor Who And The Abominable Snowmen (er. "The Abominable Snowmen") by Terrance Dicks.

Russell T Davies introduces Doctor Who And The Auton Invasion ("Spearhead From Space") by Terrance Dicks.

New series scribe Gareth Roberts introduces Doctor Who And The Cybermen ("The Moonbase") by Gerry Davis.

And Target stalwart Terrance Dicks introduces Doctor Who And The Cave Monsters ("Doctor Who And The Silurians") by the late Malcolm Hulke.

They're currently saying the books should be about £4.99 each.

 

[X-SOLDIER]

Full trailer for Season Six.

SO. Fucking. Stoked.

"FEAR ME. I'VE KILLED HUNDREDS OF TIME LORDS."
"Fear me. I've killed all of them."

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