Fangu streams (and rants about) XII

[Fangu]

Oh yes, yep. I did him first. It's correct as you say that you have to fight Hell Wyrm to accept Yiazmat, and you have to accept Yiazmat to fight Omega XII. Video of Hell Wyrm fight, from around 13 minutes
(Please bear with me re: the sound, I was having some problems but I've sorted them out now)

I used Fran, Basch and Penelo. AKA "Team B". Fran as a Green mage and for damage, Basch for damage and Penelo for Holy Damage (w/ Holy Rod) and healing. At the end I had to switch out Penelo for Vaan so I finished with him (Penelo had Stop on her), but that's because I couldn't be arsed to kill Vaan to get Penelo back in. (Of course I'd only had to throw a Chrono's Tear on her, but I somehow remembered her as dead, not Stopped.) I had already killed him once to get Fran back in XD Around 59:00 you can see me trying to get the target status off Vaan so I can get Fran back in, lol. Then watch glorious suicide at 1:01:30.

Which supports your idea Flint that this fight is, although long, quite easy, since I have time to do something like that. I was level 78/79 at the time. Could probably have done it at at least 10 levels lower. I didn't even use the characters I consider to be best for this fight (Vaan/Balthier instead of Penelo/Fran). I pretty much went in with my "Back up team" figuring I would have to exchange them for Team A (Ashe/Balthier/Vaan) later on but that moment never came.

The Turtleneck Choker was pretty handy for this fight. I have way too much gil now anyway. In this battle I also tried Quickenings - and failed miserably of course The fight took be about an hour but that's because I wasn't paying 100% attention towards the end (didn't have to) and I started fiddling around with Quickenings for the hell of it. (I need to learn how to do those things.)

Right now I'm getting the Tournesol, which I'm only doing because there would be no point in getting it later. I've finished all of the big marks but one (AAA DON'T WANT THIS GAME TO BE OVER EVER) which I don't really need greatswords for. So I'm gonna get the Tournesol for Ashe, and then send her into Bahamut alone. Muahaha.

By the way I'm thinking of doing a "Fran & Balthier only" playthrough. y/y?

 

[Flintlock]

In this battle I also tried Quickenings - and failed miserably of course

When Hell Wyrm had only one health bar "dot" on the screen, which I thought was his last one but turned out to be his penultimate one, I unleashed a chain of 14 Quickenings plus a concurrence. It took ages - a few minutes, I'd guess - and in the end, it only did as much damage as my characters could do in about thirty seconds of normal attacking, and it consumed all their MP. I've never been a fan of Quickenings and my experience here only reinforced my idea that they're largely useless.

By the way I'm thinking of doing a "Fran & Balthier only" playthrough. y/y?

I've thought about doing an Asch & Basch playthrough before. Someone else could do a Vaan & Penelo playthrough and we'd have the complete set

 

[Fangu]

I've never been a fan of Quickenings and my experience here only reinforced my idea that they're largely useless.

Yeah me too. The thing is, they're probably super effective on some monsters and not effective at all on others - and like you say, unless you chain to like 10-15 or above, they don't really do much. A lot of button work for very little, and they leave you with no MP. I'd rather stay in control of my characters and MP, even if I have Megalixirs.

I've thought about doing an Asch & Basch playthrough before. Someone else could do a Vaan & Penelo playthrough and we'd have the complete set

Hahaha omg that's a brilliant idea We should write up chapters and do them simultaneously and then compare notes after each chapter. The one who has Vaan & Penelo would have the toughest job though - save for against magic enemies. This mostly due to the fact that they made Penelo slow. Had she been faster she would have been a lot easier to pick as an A character imo.

Something tells me you're joking though

 

[Flintlock]

Something tells me you're joking though

Not at all! And I'd happily do the Vaan & Penelo game if someone else really wanted to do Ashe & Basch (just noticed I wrote "Asch" last time, haha). I don't think they'd be a particularly weak pairing. They might struggle against the toughest marks, but I'm not sure I have the time or motivation to do all of those again. I'd probably just choose the ones which yield useful rewards.

 

[Fangu]

Yeah I wasn't planning on doing All The Things™ with Franthier either, unless I really want pain or just as an experiment. Just the basic storyline and maybe a mark or two, if the price is useful for the end game.

Why Ashe and Basch by the way? (Come on say it say it say it)

 

[Flintlock]

Why Ashe and Basch by the way? (Come on say it say it say it)

Because...

Spoiler

their names rhyme

Sorry to disappoint, but the only time I do "shipping" is when I need to send something by post.

 

[Fangu]

Because...

Spoiler

their names rhyme

Sorry to disappoint, but the only time I do "shipping" is when I need to send something by post.

 

[Strangelove]

i am about ten seconds away from deciding to get an elgato of my very own

edit; ten seconds passed, i now own one

 

[Carlie]

You lucky panda.

 

[Fangu]

Ooo congrats Hito, good choice! I really want to get one too...

So Lex and I are gonna finish (NOOOOO!!) XII later today - I'm taking Ashe with the Tournesol, not sure who he's gonna take; now that he's all lvl 99 and champed out he'll probably have to take Penelo with no weapons and armor equipped, olol

I'll post when we start

 

[Lex]

Maybe I'll take Fran and equip no weapons

 

[Fangu]

Okay, finishing the game, here we go...

 

[Fangu]

It has ended.

I am sad now.

Serious sadface.

And by the way, the picture in my avatar is official art from the credits. Here's the same image in color:

I'll probably be doing that Fran and Balthier only playthrough, and I still have Yiazmat, but for now: Thank you awesome game. Thank you. It's been wonderful.

 

[Flintlock]

For some reason, when you said you would be finishing the game, I assumed you meant defeating Yiazmat. It didn't occur to me that you hadn't actually finished it in the proper sense of the word yet After taking down so many difficult marks, the ending bosses always felt really anticlimactic; so much so, that in my second and most comprehensive playthrough of the game, I never bothered with them.

I'm quietly glad you still have at least one thing left to do, because it means there's still time for me to catch up! Not on levels, though. You know my stance on grinding. And I will seriously consider starting a new game if you try the Fran/Balthier challenge.

 

[Strangelove]

this talk has made me want to replay and possibly stream (because my elgato shipped this evening and is supposed to be delivered tomorrow), but now i am stuck between playing the original for the japanese voices or zjs for its enhancements (the l1/r1 speed-up thing is amazing omg). if zjs had the original voice acting this wouldn't even be an issue

 

[Lex]

ZJS doesn't have the original Japanese voices? I thought you got a choice between the two like in X international :S

 

[Fangu]

but now i am stuck between playing the original for the japanese voices

omg Hito

omg

if you do this, I will watch your stream. I'll probably be checking out your stream anyway, but omg this. I even said to Lex that it would be fun trying to remember enough katakana to get through the game, but I know it would be an extremely tedious thing to do.

@Flint, Vayne's last form actually gave me a bit of a fight. I was around level 80 iirc when I finished, and when his HP dropped pretty low he kept killing off my characters, I actually had to equip bubble belts. It wasn't hard, but it was work enough.

 

[Strangelove]

FFX only gave the choice for English and Japanese text

The only International versions to have any Japanese voices were:

- X-2, where Last Misson is only voiced in Japanese
- KH2 gave the option of watching the cutscenes in Japanese in its theatre mode but not playing the game with the voices in Japanese
- I think BbS has the same deal with the theatre mode, and its secret/extra chapter was only dubbed in Japanese
- DC has the cutscenes from the online mode added to its theatre mode, which I am guess are in Japanese because they weren't in the English game

The only time they did an International/Final Mix with Japanese voices is KH1 HD, which is now only Japanese voices but an odd mix of Japanese and English lip sync

 

[Octo]

lolololol hay guys I'm in the Giza plains with Penelo looking for a sunstone...or a shadestome...or something. I have had the game for like 3 fucking weeks now! The important thing is that I'm thinking about it even though I can't play very often. Haven't yet got to the stage where I care about the characters and honestly Vaan's pecs/abs scare the living shit out of me.

 

[Strangelove]

vaan's muscles always reminded me of a fossil

like he has a trilobite embedded in his belly flesh

 

[Octo]

^THATS EXACTLY IT. If I didnt know better i'd have probably thought that was part of the plot, a half boy-half trilobite trying to survive in a world he didnt create.

 

[Strangelove]

yay i got my elgato today and managed to get it to record after a bit of messing around (couldn't get it to work with the d-terminal/playstation cable but the component cable worked okay). i will play around with it some more and see if changing some settings makes a big difference to the quality.

 

[Fangu]

So I actually tried fighting Yiazmat.

I am never doing that again. Ever.

He had two bars left. TWO. And then he one shotted my party, one shotted the person I brought out from my reserve, and then one shotted the next one I brought out too, which was my last alive character.

Never again.

 

[Strangelove]

i might have a test streaming ffxii (original non-zjs japanese) later on this evening because now i miss the game

edit; people on justin.tv have taken my desired usernames on twitch and i hate them all so much

 

[Fangu]

Okay so I sold every last unusable item I had to buy 3 more Bubble Belts and as many Chrono's Tears my pockets could fit.

I'm not saying I'm gonna try again. Heh.

Hito, give a shout whenif you stream, I want to watch <3