SPOILERS FFVII:R Chapter 18 Spoiler Discussion
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Theozilla
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The Baz Luhrmann Romeo+Juliet movie I think actually a great comparison I think. In terms of comparing an adaptation to an original work.
Theozilla
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Oh yeah that’s an even better comparison, especially since The Hobbit movies added and expanded so much and split up the original narrative. Though I think the Remake has succeeded far better (so far) than The Hobbit movies did.
LNK
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Were we ever told that we were not getting upgrades to the story?
Noble0ne
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We were told many times how faithful they were going to try to stay.
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LNK
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To some people they don't like some things that were done in chapters 1-17. Does that mean nothing about the game is a remake?this different, was not a only way can be done, type upgrade by anyone standard... Chapter 1-17 maybee, but 18 noooooo
Even with the wisper they could have pannned it out with less embellishments
Kain424
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"That experience starts to diminish as you proceed through the game and the interest level starts to decline. If it’s just nostalgia, it’s just a matter of following the story, and there wouldn’t be any surprises. So, in that sense, we want to balance out the areas we would like change versus the areas we don’t in order to have that nostalgia, but also the surprises. "
--2016
LNK
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And they did stay faithful to the OG. Even with what happened in ch 18. Can you tell me what main story points that happened in the Midgar section of the OG, didn't happen in the remake?
Elisa Maza
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Alright, time for Aerith speculation:
I think she knew of the story because she saw it on the leaking pipe in the beginning. She saw the OG.
So, she's been trying to convince others to change fate, even though it brought her something scary: uncertainty. Sure, she has hope that she'll live now, but nothing is a guarantee either. She spoke as if she was dead to Cloud in the dream, because she expected to die.
She knew about Zack dying. She is trying to move on. But, she's still hurting; Zack's death is recent. Probably she knew that he was coming to Midgar. If not, fate showed him outside of Midgar to her anyway. She has a push-pull with her memory of Zack; trying to move on and missing him at the same time.
Nojima said that she values freedom and being alive, so that's what she did. She urged them to kill Fate, giving her a chance to live, but it also gave Sephiroth his chance to win. She's embarking onto a journey to keep herself alive while also defeating Sephiroth.
But, killing fate had another ramification. One she couldn't foresee. It created a timeline where Zack survived. And she still doesn't know it.
I think she knew of the story because she saw it on the leaking pipe in the beginning. She saw the OG.
So, she's been trying to convince others to change fate, even though it brought her something scary: uncertainty. Sure, she has hope that she'll live now, but nothing is a guarantee either. She spoke as if she was dead to Cloud in the dream, because she expected to die.
She knew about Zack dying. She is trying to move on. But, she's still hurting; Zack's death is recent. Probably she knew that he was coming to Midgar. If not, fate showed him outside of Midgar to her anyway. She has a push-pull with her memory of Zack; trying to move on and missing him at the same time.
Nojima said that she values freedom and being alive, so that's what she did. She urged them to kill Fate, giving her a chance to live, but it also gave Sephiroth his chance to win. She's embarking onto a journey to keep herself alive while also defeating Sephiroth.
But, killing fate had another ramification. One she couldn't foresee. It created a timeline where Zack survived. And she still doesn't know it.
LNK
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I was just reading that interview again today
Noble0ne
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My argument is not that this is not a remake. That can be true but not my point.
My point is they implied one thing and delivered another. Even if they can say,
" hey look, technical, we told you the truth"
There is a art to psychology that is real. and I dont like being toyed with by smart advertising.
Ite
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If during Part 1 of the Hobbit Bilbo is explicitly told that the ring is a servant of The Dark Lord, and keeps having flash forwards to the Battle of Five Armies, and then Gloin is killed by the Uruk-Hai but brought back to life by a ghost, then Sauron shows up asking them to help him kill FATE ITSELF which they do for no explicable reason...
Then yes, it’s like the Hobbit.
Kain424
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You're fun.
But for real, I'm not sure how this plotline will pan out. It may be used as some sort of throughline for the series going forward, or it may be a clunky mess that winds up ruining everything. Hard to say. It certainly helped provide some of that padding though. Same with all the crawling under and between shit.
Wol
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It's just a shame the kind of changes they've done and HOW they've done it surprised me negatively instead of making me excited for the future.
Maidenofwar
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Potato chip? Look we used to talk about carp. Carp!
Theozilla
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Oh hahaha very funny. The general point was that they are comparable in that they both split up the narrative of the original and added a lot of additional content and even made up entirely new content.
Noble0ne
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Funny I'm honestly not against added content. I loved the jessee mission.
Heck, I hated the dancing but it felt like it wasn't out of left field.
Things I both like and disliked I wasn't against.
If they told me from the get we're making a re imagine. I would be way more accepting
Heck, I hated the dancing but it felt like it wasn't out of left field.
Things I both like and disliked I wasn't against.
If they told me from the get we're making a re imagine. I would be way more accepting