FFVII REMAKE CONFIRMED
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Jairus
Author of FFVII: Lifestream & FFVII: Reflections
Lex
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I have all 5 butterfinger DLC codes and they're the same, but butterfinger is for North American and Batchelor's for EU, so I don't know if I'll be able to use the codes I have. Like, I can use them on my NA PSN account but I don't know if that'll let me use them on my EU account (it works this way for themes as long as they're both set to use the same primary PS4's).
Theozilla
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Well this guy seems have liked the Remake a lot.
Suggestion, should a new pinned thread be created dedicated to Reviews and/or in depth reactions of the Remake, since Journalist reviews are allowed to be released on the 6th?
Suggestion, should a new pinned thread be created dedicated to Reviews and/or in depth reactions of the Remake, since Journalist reviews are allowed to be released on the 6th?
Cannon_Fodder
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I'd like a pinned thread on reviews or reactions, but I think it'd need a big spoiler warning.
Elisa Maza
Whomst
Reviews are out.
Lulcielid
Eyes of the Lord
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- Lulcy
Probably no day one patch for the game to fix issues.
Misterbadguy
Phantom Lord
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I don't think it's a particularly big leap of logic for people to expect a launch day patch really. Fair enough if it doesn't happen since like the guy says, Square have never said there's one coming, but most AAA games have some kind of download on release day.
Alex Strife
Ex-SOLDIER
The fact that we've come to accept "Day One Patches" is a problem.
Games should at least try to ship in a complete state. And we as players should expect games to come complete.
I'm all for patches and updates, don't get me wrong. But Day One Patches should only come if they find something wrong with the game when it's already too late...
Or am I crazy?
Games should at least try to ship in a complete state. And we as players should expect games to come complete.
I'm all for patches and updates, don't get me wrong. But Day One Patches should only come if they find something wrong with the game when it's already too late...
Or am I crazy?
Odysseus
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I completely agree, I feel like as online integration has become more prevelant in the gaming world, less and less care has been taken to ensure the product is up to snuff at launch. The companies are so eager to get their product out there that they ship discs with broken or unfinished games and just patch it after the fact.
I have heard that the early version of the remake has glitches and texture loading issues though, so a day "one" patch isn't totally out of the range of possibility here either.
Alex Strife
Ex-SOLDIER
Rather than glitches, what I have noticed is that -sometimes-, certain textures load a bit too late and you end up noticing the low-res (meant to be seen from afar) a bit too much.
That doesn't bother me too much. I'm a bit more concerned with skyboxes. They're a bit... If you don't look too close you won't notice anything wrong with it but if you pay attention, you can tell they're just skyboxes when you look at the back of President Shinra's office or other times.
That doesn't bother me too much. I'm a bit more concerned with skyboxes. They're a bit... If you don't look too close you won't notice anything wrong with it but if you pay attention, you can tell they're just skyboxes when you look at the back of President Shinra's office or other times.
Lulcielid
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The build that's printed on disc is several weeks (if not over two months) old because they need to first get certificated before going on sale and that can take many weeks (because many softwares are certificated at a time) and because of that they send it as early as possible to not delay the printing phase (which on itself can take many weeks) and thus they use the most recent and stable version of the game they have. In that time period many previously unnoticed problems could be discovered and day one patches can remedy the issues that they may have overlooked.
It really bothers me how "complete" is being misused as meaning error free, because no software is error free.
It really bothers me how "complete" is being misused as meaning error free, because no software is error free.
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Odysseus
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I understand, I just feel like they've gotten more and more lax about this as time has gone on. Even back in the day games got "patches" like how there are multiple revisions of Ocarina of Time on N64, or hell, even original FF7 with all the additions made to the international version. I just feel like companies are getting sloppy about what they ship out.
Lulcielid
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Back in the day companies werent much better than they are now as far as not releasing sloopy games, and FF (and old Squaresoft) was no exception.
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_bugs_and_glitches
https://finalfantasy.fandom.com/wiki/List_of_bugs_and_glitches
Alex Strife
Ex-SOLDIER
What you're saying at the end is exactly what I was saying:
So I'm not exactly sure what's bothering you there.
The game was announced as having gone gold at the beginning of March. Assuming they announced it late (which could be the case, or not), I'd say it's 5 or 6 weeks ago at most. Definitely not over 2 months.
Also, since I think the meaning of what I wrote was lost somewhere: games used to be released before consoles were connected to the Internet and developers had to be more careful. Because whatever they shipped was impossible to fix.
Since consoles nowadays are very often online, developers tend to take this for granted and push things that little bit more; trying to get shorter development times, stick to difficult release dates, etc. This is not even an opinion. They do because they can.
Assuming what other people's words mean can be a mistake. How about Square-Enix adding part of the ending to KH3? Was that game "incomplete" or just a quick fix?
I'll concede it's not exactly common for game companies to leave chunks of the ending out and add them on Day One Patches but I've seen a good amount of games over the years add CONTENT on Day One Patches. I'm not just talking about errors that need to be solved.
If a game needs a Day One Patch, I'm willing to bet a couple more months of troubleshooting work would have been enough. Don't push things too much just to make impossible release dates. It'd be nice to avoid crunch, which we know Japanese definitely tend to have. My games are important but not so important that I'd prioritize them to other people's health.
Also, if it's not much to ask, Lulcielid, try not sound a bit less stuck-up next time? I've often seen you do that to others and that's none of my business but don't do it to me, okay?
So I'm not exactly sure what's bothering you there.
The game was announced as having gone gold at the beginning of March. Assuming they announced it late (which could be the case, or not), I'd say it's 5 or 6 weeks ago at most. Definitely not over 2 months.
Also, since I think the meaning of what I wrote was lost somewhere: games used to be released before consoles were connected to the Internet and developers had to be more careful. Because whatever they shipped was impossible to fix.
Since consoles nowadays are very often online, developers tend to take this for granted and push things that little bit more; trying to get shorter development times, stick to difficult release dates, etc. This is not even an opinion. They do because they can.
Assuming what other people's words mean can be a mistake. How about Square-Enix adding part of the ending to KH3? Was that game "incomplete" or just a quick fix?
I'll concede it's not exactly common for game companies to leave chunks of the ending out and add them on Day One Patches but I've seen a good amount of games over the years add CONTENT on Day One Patches. I'm not just talking about errors that need to be solved.
If a game needs a Day One Patch, I'm willing to bet a couple more months of troubleshooting work would have been enough. Don't push things too much just to make impossible release dates. It'd be nice to avoid crunch, which we know Japanese definitely tend to have. My games are important but not so important that I'd prioritize them to other people's health.
Also, if it's not much to ask, Lulcielid, try not sound a bit less stuck-up next time? I've often seen you do that to others and that's none of my business but don't do it to me, okay?
Tetsujin
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I mean I sort of get doing certain things as a day one patch.
The thing is, this game so far has felt very polished. The only thing I noticed is what everyone else is saying, there's a bunch of textures that always seem to stay at the low level of detail state. This generally happens in the more 'open' sections of the game like sector 7 and 5.
And this is such a low priority type of thing that I get they'd rather do it as a patch rather than delaying printing the discs.
Outside of this, the 1.00 version of this plays well, runs well and doesn't seem to have any obvious glitches or jank.
Also, the digital version seems like it has 9GB more than the disc version so I'm assuming a patch is already included with that. We'll see!
The thing is, this game so far has felt very polished. The only thing I noticed is what everyone else is saying, there's a bunch of textures that always seem to stay at the low level of detail state. This generally happens in the more 'open' sections of the game like sector 7 and 5.
And this is such a low priority type of thing that I get they'd rather do it as a patch rather than delaying printing the discs.
Outside of this, the 1.00 version of this plays well, runs well and doesn't seem to have any obvious glitches or jank.
Also, the digital version seems like it has 9GB more than the disc version so I'm assuming a patch is already included with that. We'll see!
ForceStealer
Double Growth
From my admittedly privileged position of having fairly solid internet. I couldn't really care less about Day One patches. I find the fixation on them being Day One a little odd sometimes. As though if it came a week later people would mind less?
I find a single player game requiring a constant internet connection to be obnoxious and onerous, but a one-time patch? *shrug* We've already conceded that we have to wait for games to install on consoles, so it doesn't really impact my first-time start up.
I find a single player game requiring a constant internet connection to be obnoxious and onerous, but a one-time patch? *shrug* We've already conceded that we have to wait for games to install on consoles, so it doesn't really impact my first-time start up.
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oty
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It just became impossible. God of War came with a half a gig day one patch. RDR2 received a whopping 3gbs day one patch. It's not even a question of not "working enough", these companies are notorously know for their extreme crunching. It just....games got really harder to make.
Alex Strife
Ex-SOLDIER
Don't get me wrong. I personally don't mind Day One Patches from a logistic point of view. Even in these days, my Internet is solid enough that I don't get any problem with them. My comment was more general than that.