FFVII REMAKE CONFIRMED

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ChipNoir

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It's good in the sense that we're seeing some elevation of someone within Square Enix. Mobius is...sorta solid? But his work has always been in programming, and it's hard to say what creative input Hamaguchi has ever had off the top of my head.

What I can say is according to this, https://www.hal.ac.jp/cross/report/2412 , Hamaguchi pursued a job at SquareEnix because of his love for Final Fantasy VI. So this is the first time I've seen someone closer to our generation that has come into Square knowing it's high points as an outsider. Having that kind of a bias could be really good for our future if he proves competent as a co-director.
 
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ChipNoir said:
It's good in the sense that we're seeing some elevation of someone within Square Enix. Mobius is...sorta solid? But his work has always been in programming, and it's hard to say what creative input Hamaguchi has ever had off the top of my head.

What I can say is according to this, https://www.hal.ac.jp/cross/report/2412 , Hamaguchi pursued a job at SquareEnix because of his love for Final Fantasy VI. So this is the first time I've seen someone closer to our generation that has come into Square knowing it's high points as an outsider. Having that kind of a bias could be really good for our future if he proves competent as a co-director.
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Didn’t the old timers say they had to do the Remake before they got too old and that they’re sort of paving the way for the changing of the guard by doing so? This might align with Hamaguchi’s “promotion,” and what you say, here.
 
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Lulcielid

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I just find this type of boogeyman blaming comments obnoxious (be it as joke or serious). It would be like demonizing all public workers that have worked during Trumps administration just for simply having worked during his presidency.
 
Alex Strife

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Except he's not blaming anyone?

I'm not saying I don't understand what you mean but at least in this particular instance I felt it was a very harmless comment, to be frank.

And we could say it's also wrong to consider someone to be good just because they enjoy FFVI, right? After all, it's just as pointless a thing to do.

Here's hoping I don't ever use a broad generalisation as a joke, or it seems I'll rustle some feathers!
 
Roger

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Lulcielid said:
What's wrong about him having been involved with XIII? He was a programmer in that trilogy, not the creative leader or something like that.
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He was programming in the other games he worked on too. Either those experiences meant something or he just became Co-Director of the FFVII Remake having had no meaningful experience beyond Mobius. Obviously people that know him better then we do think it's the former.
Lulcielid said:
I just find this type of boogeyman blaming comments obnoxious (be it as joke or serious). It would be like demonizing all public workers that have worked during Trumps administration just for simply having worked during his presidency.
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How is that the same? I don't expect all or any of the public workers in America to influence Trump's decision making. But just because Trump is awful doesn't mean the blame for every flaw in every collaboration can be laid at the feet of the guy at the head of said collaboration, while everyone else that participates in anything only gets positive credit for their work. The XIII Trilogy wasn't mechanically perfect, only hampered by their demon of a creative leader.
 
The Twilight Mexican

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Roger said:
But just because Trump is awful doesn't mean the blame for every flaw in every collaboration can be laid at the feet of the guy at the head of said collaboration, while everyone else that participates in anything only gets positive credit for their work. The XIII Trilogy wasn't mechanically perfect, only hampered by their demon of a creative leader.
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While that's a fair point, and we will never know what sort of creative suggestions from him may have been adopted along the way, the team leads are ultimately responsible for the work put out by the team. The understanding in these kind of work groups is that the results are at the approval -- if not the direction -- of the group leader.

In any case, I don't find his involvement in the XIII trilogy discouraging since he got promoted with each subsequent entry in the trilogy and the mechanics improved with each entry.
 
Ite

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Well if one of the directors is a pie-sky artiste who is all ideas and no follow-through, and the other director is a programmer who knows the team/facilities but is lacking in vision, that sounds like the game might come out in our lifetime *and* be excellent.

Of course I know neither of these people but since none of us do, any picture we’re trying to paint is theatre of the mind, anyway.
 
Gary Caelum

Gary Caelum

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Well they did make Nomura into a director after he'd done nothing but character designs for a decade. They have some weird policies.
 
Gary Caelum

Gary Caelum

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Ok I overstated "nothing but character designs". But from reading his bio, before Kingdom Hearts, about 90% of his work was art design, so I think the spirit of what I was saying is mostly true.
 
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ChipNoir

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Gary Caelum said:
Ok I overstated "nothing but character designs". But from reading his bio, before Kingdom Hearts, about 90% of his work was art design, so I think the spirit of what I was saying is mostly true.
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He was originally programer, and then moved on to not just designing characters, but conceiving them in VI ontop of designing enemies. In VII he co-wrote the original story, and was highly responsible for either concieving or influencing several of the most iconic moments in the game. He was also in charge of the battle visuals, meaning that anything memorable from VII battles likely passed through his hands for consideration, if it wasn't outright his idea. Same for VIII, and IIRC, X.

He's had a VERY strong hand in shaping the most successful era of the Final Fantasy franchise. That's why he was even considered for director for Kingdom Hearts in the first place. You don't just hand over a massive cross over like that to someone just because you think they can draw some cool characters.
 
Gary Caelum

Gary Caelum

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Hmm yes you appear to be correct about FF7. I didn't know that at all. If you look at the main credits for the game, or on his wikipedia bio, it just credits him for character design and battle design.
 
ForceStealer

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He was very important in FF7. But he was considerably less important in the more controversial games that people like to try and pin on him. Namely, X, XIII, and XV. For which he pretty much just did draw the characters (and in XV he didn't even design their outfits), because he was doing KH by then.
 
Gary Caelum

Gary Caelum

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I'd never heard people try and pin X or XIII on him.

XV though, he was the early director, so probably bears some responsibility for it's messy development. Impossible to really know whose fault that was from the outside though.
 
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Yeah, a Final Fantasy VII musical is one of the worst ideas ever. It'd be just as bad as a King Kong musical.
 
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