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Edited a biggish ep 6 spoiler thar, :monster:.

Also, I'll just wait patiently until next week for episode 7. In fact, I am disappoint we're already at episode 7 - I'd really really really like HBO to split a book up into two seasons instead of trying to fit it all into 10 hours of TV.

In fact, episode 6 was 8 minutes shorter than the previous ones, that, or I suck.
 

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Really? I haven't read the books, but I'm glad that the plot is moving along quickly. Padding a book is much more bearable than padding a show.
 

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Really? I haven't read the books, but I'm glad that the plot is moving along quickly. Padding a book is much more bearable than padding a show.

Not if it's a fantasy novel, and the padding fills up 90% of the book with the Fellowship alternating between visiting an inn and a campfire, times five million, times ten books, :monster:.

I can't even remember any page in GoT being wasted on pointless filler material. Which probably means it was too boring to remember, but :monster:.
 

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This is great. Though if you haven't seen Arrested Development, you probably won't fully appreciate most of the jokes. But if you haven't seen Arrested Development, what are you waiting for? :monster:

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Edited a biggish ep 6 spoiler thar, :monster:.

Also, I'll just wait patiently until next week for episode 7. In fact, I am disappoint we're already at episode 7 - I'd really really really like HBO to split a book up into two seasons instead of trying to fit it all into 10 hours of TV.

In fact, episode 6 was 8 minutes shorter than the previous ones, that, or I suck.

They're actually hoping to do the 3rd book in 2 seasons and 4 & 5 in 3, and hopefully will be able to, giving the SIZE of said books... plus, time for Martin to write book 6 >_>
 

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It has been leaked that a character who dies in "book three or four" of the series has had his death scene moved to season 1 of the show. The following post was made on westeros.org:

Ximo said:
I made a quick PHP script computing the intersection of a list of characters portrayed by actors in season 1 of Game of Thrones (from here) and a list of characters killed in A Storm of Swords (from here). In other words, I got a list of all characters killed in ASoS that are portrayed by an actor in GoT. Now, Ran never said it had to be a character played by an actor, so I'm not sure this is of any use.

* Catelyn Stark
* Jeor Mormont
* Joffrey Baratheon
* Lysa Arryn
* Rast
* Robb Stark
* Shae
* Tywin Lannister
In addition to that, we know that the character who dies is male. For some reason this list leaves off Gregor Clegane. However, Conan Stevens has confirmed (seriously, read this; it's awesome) that he will be returning in season 2, so it's not him, which is good, because his duel with Oberyn Martell is too epic to cut. I also doubt it would be Robb, Joffrey, or Tywin, because removing them from the plot at this point would affect the plot too much. If it's a cast character, Rast or Jeor Mormont are likely to bite the dust, although Hoster Tully (who if I am not mistaken has not been cast) has been speculated as a possible case as well.

It could also be someone who dies in book four. Haven't really given much thought to who dies in that book, and offhand I can't even think of anyone that dies in that book and has even been introduced yet. Then again I'm not even sure Hoster Tully has been mentioned by name yet either, so that might not be relevant.

That said, it's been stated that the storyline will need to be altered somewhat to accommodate this character's death. I'm going with Beric, Hoster, or Mormont; I can't see Rast's death altering anything.

edit: here's a post from neogaf

Jeor Mormont, Robb Stark, Rast, Joffrey Baratheon, Tywin Lannister, Gregor Clegane, Aemon Targaryen are the ones that are actually cast. Only Rast and Aemon seem conceivable.
I think it is more likely that character has not been cast yet or is currently only played by an extra (but named in the script).
Possibly (In parenthesis their death in the books):
Rickard Karstark (beheaded by Robb as a traitor),
Hoster Tully (dies in his bed),
Smalljon Umber (head hacked off at the red wedding),
Chett (turned into a wight),
Wendel Manderly (bolt through mouth at the red wedding)
Dontos Hollard (killed by Littlefinger after delivering Sansa)
Donal Noye (defended the gate of the wall from a giant)
Marillion (jumped to his death after "confessing" to kill Lysa)
he raises some good points. that said this follow-up post also has a point as well
This person has to be impactful though. They admitted that by killing this person they were basically excising a storyline from SoS to save time when they get to season 3.

The minor characters are going to accomplish nothing.

The only two I can think of are Hoster and Clegane. But the Giant says he's in Season 2 so not him.

Hoster is a good choice though: while he is obviously bedridden and not taking up facetime, he's already dying in GoT...waiting until the third season to finally finish him off will be more time for scenes with Cat in his room or Cat thinking back on him. Killing him off in the first season is better, you get it out the way, Edmure is now lord of the Trident, end of story. Plus, the great arrow scene might be in there.
I'm pretty sure it's Hoster. It could also be Marillion or Beric.
 
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I actually think it could be Jeor Mormont, which would accellerate Jon's rise to power and the continuation of the story. I'm actually not sure what happens between book 1 and when Jon becomes the boss.

Of course, at the same time, putting Jon in charge at his current position in the night's watch wouldn't make any sense.

Can't think of any other character though.
 

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It wouldn't really make sense with Jon's character arc where it is. Of course they could give the leadership to someone else in the interim and have them die later, but that seems kind of convoluted and I don't see what it would add to the story.

We're probably overthinking it and it's probably just someone minor like Rast or Marillion.
 

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Also various people have set up a bunch of hilarious fake Twitter accounts for characters in this show, such as this one for Rickon Stark. There may be spoilers for unaired material in some of them, idk.
 

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This isn't a spoiler alert so much as a general bewilderment at Episode 7s extended lesbian sex scene. Not a complaint, but a little afraid that this is too risky, even for HBO
 

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This isn't a spoiler alert so much as a general bewilderment at Episode 7s extended lesbian sex scene. Not a complaint, but a little afraid that this is too risky, even for HBO

Yeah I was definitely surprised they had it in there. And it was rather awkward considering I watch that show with my parents.
 

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I just realized that Grand Maester Pycelle is General Veers from Empire Strikes Back.
 

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This isn't a spoiler alert so much as a general bewilderment at Episode 7s extended lesbian sex scene. Not a complaint, but a little afraid that this is too risky, even for HBO


I haven't seen the show yet, but HAVE YOU SEEN THE SHIT ON HBO.

Prison rape, full on coitus, exposed junk, what have you.

HBO just don't give a shit bro
 

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This isn't a spoiler alert so much as a general bewilderment at Episode 7s extended lesbian sex scene. Not a complaint, but a little afraid that this is too risky, even for HBO

That wasn't a sex scene, that was outright porn, :monster:. I don't even know why they even bothered letting Petyr rant in the background of that one. (I don't even remember wtf he was ranting about)

But yeah. This is becoming tasteless.

Besides that, good episode I guess, :monster:. It's all the more apparent by watching the TV series that
the war
is actually based on pretty stupid shit in the basis, on personal tragedies and resentment and all kinds of fancy words I can't be bothered to remember.

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Stupid Ned Stark

Win and just, :monster:. Now you mention it, Hodor's brighter than Ned.

Speaking of, show is severely lacking in Hodor.
 

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I lol'd.

Latest ep was awesome.
Got to meet SHAGGA, SON OF DOLF and all his friends, had Syrio's epic last stand (though I was disappoint they just showed him beating on the knights rather than actually killing a couple of them), Drogo ripping a dude's tongue out with his bare hands, Robb and the Greatjon, Jon vs the wight, and moar Tywin who is acted perfectly, imo.

I think knowing what's coming only makes my anticipation for the next ep all the more difficult to bear.
 

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I lol'd.

Latest ep was awesome.
Got to meet SHAGGA, SON OF DOLF and all his friends, had Syrio's epic last stand (though I was disappoint they just showed him beating on the knights rather than actually killing a couple of them), Drogo ripping a dude's tongue out with his bare hands, Robb and the Greatjon, Jon vs the wight, and moar Tywin who is acted perfectly, imo.

I think knowing what's coming only makes my anticipation for the next ep all the more difficult to bear.

Calling it "Syrio's last stand" is questionable. This episode just added additional fuel to the fire of the fan theory that Syrio isn't dead, because it didn't show him dying and characters pointedly avoided throwing in references to "his death." I still don't think it infeasible that he could've gotten away somehow.

Earlier episodes have thrown in fodder for R+L=J as well.
 

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Calling it "Syrio's last stand" is questionable. This episode just added additional fuel to the fire of the fan theory that Syrio isn't dead, because it didn't show him dying and characters pointedly avoided throwing in references to "his death." I still don't think it infeasible that he could've gotten away somehow.

Huh, I thought they actually confirmed his death in the books. Eeeeenteresting. I wouldn't mind if he was still alive, he's pretty awesome.

Earlier episodes have thrown in fodder for R+L=J as well.
Robert + Lyanna = Jon? Eh, Jon's physical similarity to Ned is mentioned several times, and Robert's male bastards always have that Baratheon look to them. While I can see where the theory comes from, I just don't see it.
 

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In this series if you don't see the body you can't assume a character to be dead. And even sometimes then.
Bran and Rickon were "killed" in book 2 and then we found out that "Bran" and "Rickon" were actually impostors. I know plenty of people who threw the book across the room in disgust when that happened.
Anyway, my point is that it wouldn't be even remotely unprecedented for Martin to make people think a character was dead when he wasn't;
Davos and Sandor are other examples where it's generally theorised that a character reported dead is in fact not dead. In Sandor's case they very pointedly avoided referring to Sandor Clegane as "dead"; just "the Hound". Which suggests that it's a metaphorical reference to part of his personality. Brienne is confirmed to have had chapters moved out of book 5 to book 6, so she isn't dead either
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R+L=J
was hinted very strongly in episode 2 when
Robert goes from talking about how much he wants to kill all Targaryens to asking about Jon's mother. Eddard very pointedly avoids answering the question, and Sean Bean's acting just drives home how desperate he is not to talk about it. I'm sure the writers are aware of the theory's existence so juxtaposing the two discussions together is either some blatant foreshadowing or a red herring. And you wonder why they'd want to waste screen time on a red herring.
 

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R+L=J
was hinted very strongly in episode 2 when
Robert goes from talking about how much he wants to kill all Targaryens to asking about Jon's mother. Eddard very pointedly avoids answering the question, and Sean Bean's acting just drives home how desperate he is not to talk about it.

While I see what you mean, even now I just see that scene as Ned not wanting to talk about something that was very painful for him (presumably because Jon's mother is dead or it ended badly in some other fashion). And I still think that Jon bearing such a physical resemblance to Ned is proof enough. But still, interesting theory. :monster:
 

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Just posting to see if my new signature works.

Also, I edited a bunch of GoT quotes (there are 22 of them from the first 8 episodes) if anyone wants the audio files (for making playlists or whatever). Hit me up on my profile for more.
 

Tennyo

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Two questions:

Can I watch this anywhere other than HBO?

Should I read the books first?
 
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