Lightning Returns: Final Fantasy XIII

Fangu

Fangu

Great Old One
Splintered said:
It's a sequel right? Finally going get my stupid Snow and Serah wedding that the game's been promising me since the first friggin game.
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This. I'm not a big wedding fan at all, but this was a wedding I expected to see. But the ending of LR was >_> in my opinion, so. (The character stuff. The other stuff was cheesy, but fine.)
 
Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
Day 03, 9 Days Remain... (NG+)

Unbelievable as it sounds, I cleared nearly everything in the Wildlands in a Single Day, there's no monsters, everything is extinct except the Meonektons that only show up at certain times of day (like Early Morning).

So yeah, Sazh Quest Done, Caius Quest Done, Moogle Quests Done, Farm Quest mostly done (still have to reunite the lying farmer family)...

I'm done with Fang's Quest too, though I'm not sure if I got all the Treasure yet... I might just make a checklist later for future cycles of the stuff I need to upgrade. Also seems I missed Bhakti's Oil quest the first time around (I didn't even know that quest existed until I started going from room to room in the Ruins). I'm probably not strong enough yet for a few quests, but I'm gradually extincting Sand Sahagin and Earth Eaters (still have to spend a lot of EP to finish Eaters, but at least you get back what you spend after most fights).

Right now I'm in the Ark deciding where to go next. I'll probably hit up the Farm for greens and Luxerion to talk to that ex reporter guy, then try and make the Noon deadline for the "Free Will" sidequest in Yusnaan (though I hate being under time constraints like that), then hopefully I can work on breaking in to the Palace and finishing off Snow's quest (I hated this one the first time through because I kept running out of EP and got lost easily).

I still don't know what the requirements are for fighting "Normal Bhunivelze" over "Bhunivelze+" since they say it's Day 14, I don't know if I'll be stuck fighting the Plus version or not.

I just know if I have any snowball's chance, I need more Prayers/Quests to boost my stats.

Oh yeah, and does anyone know if those Counter-Spell abilities are useful at all? I get them from Cactuars but those guys seem pretty rare.

And I'm missing the Ultima and a few other Garbs (I haven't even tried Hard Mode yet). I want to upgrade a lot of stuff before I even try it.
 
Strangelove

Strangelove

AI Researcher
AKA
hitoshura
Selphie Tilmitt said:
Nah, there is new novellas now, "Tracers of Memories" :pinkmonster:
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Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
Day 7, 6 Days Remain (NG+ Easy Mode)

I have officially run out of monsters to kill.

No matter where I go, I am always running out of EP trying to fulfill any quests nearby or picking up greens, since I can't regenerate EP off battles when there are no monsters. I never thought I'd actually "miss" monsters...

The Jagd/Wildlands are quiet, the Dead Dunes are quiet (even the underground areas, save Aeronite whom I have yet to locate). Yusnaan only has those Gertrude robo-droids and Flanitors and the red dragons left (in the depths of Snow's mansion), and the Temple of Etro is still infested with Meonektons who only show up at 4 a.m. everywhere else.

I am kicking myself because someone misinformed me what day Noel Kreiss+ (the boss) shows up. I assumed it was Day 6, but now I'm being told it's Day 8... it's clearly not Day 6, so my attempt at getting the Paradox spear is ruined for this run. Not happy.

All that's left is to finish the Dark Knight side quest again, along with talking to the phantoms in Luxerion, really.

Probably what I will do is farm a bunch of Turbo Ethers if I can and see if I can take Bhunivelze again (hopefully not on Day 14, which I hear he is much harder to beat).

The Canvass of Prayers is empty most of the time now... so I have no idea what to do next, lol except kill time.

Side note: I wish they had a non-military time mode for this (i.e. instead of 1600 hours, say 4 p.m), I keep having to convert the hours in my head.
 
Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
So, because of my screw-up, I decided to make a Bestiary text info dump... I'll share it with you guys.
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Ultimate Lair
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Floor 1 [80 Hoplite / Frostward Bangle (Gil each consecutive)]
Floor 2 [120 Niblets / Irondragon's Scale] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 3 [30 Zaltys / Fireseal Jewel] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 4 [60 Gaunt / Stormward Bangle (Gil each consecutive)] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 5 [120 Gremlin / Devil Crest]
Floor 6 [30 Dreadnought / Flameward Bangle (Gil each consecutive)] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 7 [80 Gorgonopsid / Early-blooming Corsage] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 8 [80 Goblots / Dreamdragon's Scale]
Floor 9 [30 Gurangatch / Toasty Shawl] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 10 [60 Ectopudding / Tenacious Ring (Gil each consecutive)] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 11 [100 Miniflan / Frostseal Jewel]
Floor 12 [30 Aster Protoflorian / Sparkward Bangle (Gil each consecutive)] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 13 [60 Schrodinger / Mage Hunter's Mask] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 14 [90 Goblin / Wild Crest] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 15 [30 Reaver / Flesh Render Weapon] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 16 [65,535 Meonektons / Lucky Dice (Gil each consecutive)] (0400-0600 AM globally / Etro's Temple) Day 7 Improvement
Floor 17 [30 Cactuar / Warrior's Headband]
Floor 18 [80 Triffid / Warrior Hunter's Mask]
Floor 19 [31 Cyclops / Destroyer (Weapon)] Day 10 Improvement
Floor 20 [60 Skeletons / Bonecracker] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 21 [80 Desert Sahagin / Bandit Scarf] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 22 [30 Earth Eater / Sapping Hood] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 23 [60 Skata'ne / Enlister's Gloves (Gil each consecutive)] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 24 [100 Hanuman (Vali) / Sparkseal Jewel] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 25 [30 Zomok / Stormseal Jewel] Day 7 Imrpovement / Day 10 Improvement
Floor 26 [100 Dryad / Sniper's Gloves (Gil each consecutive)] Day 7 Improvement
Floor 27 [100 Rafflesia / Skeleton's Earrings]
Floor 28 [30 Chocobo Eater / Crippling Hood] Day 7 Improvement / Day 10 Improvement
Floor 29 X-Potion
Floor 30 Refresher
Floor 31 Phoenix Down
Floor 32 Ether
Floor 33 [Ereshkigal / Diamond Matinee Necklace]
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Other/Special
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1 Aeronite / Falcon Charm (Day 7 Giant's Sandbox/Random in Dead Dunes only)
100 Vali (See Floor 24) / Day 7 Improvement
1 Cactair / Key Item
1 Desmond (side quest)
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Bosses
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Grendel / Preta Hood
Parandus / Preta Hood (Day 7)
Noel Kreiss / Shadow Hunter (Weapon)
Noel Kreiss+ / Endless Paradox (Weapon) (Day 7)
Snow Villiers / Ghostly Hood
Snow Villiers+ / Ghostly Hood (Day 7)
Snow Villiers++ / Ghostly Hood (Day 10)
Caius Ballad / Chaos' Revenge (Weapon)
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Infinites
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Anubys 1600-1800 Globally (4 pm to 6 pm / Patron's Palace) Day 7 Improvement
Cathedral Sentry (Luxerion)
Goddess' Disciple (Luxerion)
Gertrude (The Warren) Day 7 Improvement / Day 10 Improvement
Desdemona (Industrial District of Yusnaan)
Flanitor (Yusnaan)
Personal Guard (Yusnaan) Day 7 Improvement
Set (Final Day Only)
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Final Day Exclusive (Days 13+14)
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15 Chimera / Thunderstorm Droplet
30 Arcangeli / Forsaken Tie (Gil After each consecutive)
30 Neela / 30 Wendigo
30 Sugriva / Coldflame Droplet (Final Day Only)
Bhunivelze (Final Day Only) / Double Deity (Weapon)
Bhunivelze+ (Day 14 Only) / Double Deity (Weapon)
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---Mobs improve drops after Day 7 and 10, but have better drops overall.
 
Splintered

Splintered

unsavory tart
Thanks for the link, I must have missed it
Part 1 ends with Serah telling Aoede where to find Snow.
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r u frigging kidding me.

These two will never get married, it's been four fucking years Enix. Get it together.
 
Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
This isn't just Snow and Serah, it is Squall and Rinoa (to a large extent prior to the game's end), it is Cloud and Tifa, Tidus and Yuna (if you count the novel) it is just about any canonical pairing you can think of. There is always problems in the way causing the ship to rock around and never be stable.

The only canonical ship in FF history that actually "ended reasonably well" is Cecil x Rosa because they had a kid named Ceodore, but even post-marriage that story was crazy.

Squeenix doesn't like shippers, that's just how they've always been.

I'm expecting a Love Trainwreck in FFXV if anyone wants to know...
 
Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
So I took a crack at Aeronite in my NG+ using the strategy described in FF Wiki... buuuuut....

He is still way too aggressive for my damage output, I keep getting creamed by his spells, even if I'm not using Silent Guardian in time (I'm not used to switching Schema so fast).

He eventually used Fed Up, leaving me half-dead. His HP pool is unreal!

Luckily I saved beforehand.

Interesting that if you "escape battles" all items you used up during said battle are kept! This is an awesome feature that I didn't know about!

So I guess these are max stats? (without enhancements/weapon upgrades)?

ATB: 200 Max
ATB Recovery: 200 Max
HP: 50,000 Max (99,999 in Limit Breaker)
STR: 5,000 Max (9999 in Limit Breaker)
MAG: 5,000 Max (9999 in Limit Breaker)

I might end up using Limit Breaker to beat Aeronite if I can't beat him right now (unless I get even more HP later on)...

Is the Siegfried garb even worth getting? I was debating on taking the time to re-install the demo just to get it but... I'm not sure I want to now since Dark Knight Schema is really good. I might just get SOLDIER and the one with Excalibur and Aegis though...
 
Lex

Lex

Administrator
The SOLDIER garb (in particular the Slayer ability) has the ability to do the highest damage in the game. Its only competition is Artemis's Arrows, which does more consistently high damage but a slightly lower max possible attack % (SOLIDER 1st is something like a 50% variance on top of the base whereas Artemis is like 15%) but Artemis's Arrows is slightly faster so it has the edge. I tried to defeat Aeronite and Ereshkigal with SOLDIER 1st and I can't remember if I had to switch it out for the one with Artemis's Arrows, whose name I forget.

Anywayyyyyy I liked playing around with all the garbs, but to be perfectly honest my favourite things about them are the ones that change the victory theme (other FF garbs) the rest kind of bored me/ I didn't use them.

comme ci comme ça
 
Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
Day 12, One Day Remains.... and there's ABSOLUTELY NOTHING I CAN DO ABOUT IT....

Because I missed one single quest.

I'm laughing because I did absolutely everything you can possibly do to get Eradia except this one quest...

You know the "Fighting Actress" side quest where you have to win the Midnight Mauve Garb from the Slaughterhouse?

Well, I figured this time around since I already HAD the garb, I thought I'd just go over and talk to the Manager of the Play right away and save myself a trip...

Apparently even if you already have Midnight Mauve, Zoe (the Slaughterhouse lady manager) still can give you Eradia!

Hahahahaha... wow totally miss-able event!

Well, on the bright side I didn't want to fight Bhuni+ on Day 14 anyway...

I also sold a ton of things off (including my Aegis shield) to get a Masamune early before you're supposed to buy it from the shop, but I don't care because NOW I have it, and I am happy.

I'm just glad you can buy back DLC items at any time you have the Gil for it.

And I have a Recovery inventory of MOSTLY Turbo Ethers.... Bhuni's gonna rue the day he made me use the Atonement Crystal... RUE IT I SAY!
 
Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
Day 14, No Days Remain

....I don't get it.

I just don't get it.

For 3 days straight, Lightning gave the Yggdrasil tree NO ERADIA... and now after the 12th day passes she just spits out a huge ball of it at the last minute and it blooms...

I thought I didn't have enough... the game indicated I had no more to give!

Must be some kind of plot oversight that's event specific (post Day 12).

So I spent half the day running through Ultimate Lair, most Last Ones were dead (except Meonekton lol)... I have no idea why they gave it 65,535 distribution unless that's an FF7 joke somewhere...

And I took on Ereshkigal (got zero stars but I don't care, I won!)

Got the Ultimatus Garb, the Matinee Necklace, and enough Turbo Ether's to spare... plus I finished the Soul Seeds quest and got my Elixir, so that's nice (I earned a Refresher and bought Phoenix Wing from Mog, so I should be all set)!

Now I'm worried about my upcoming fight against Barthandeleus Bhunivelze+ and his phase 2 Doom...

This time around I will take my sweet time in the final area and see if I can't farm "Committal" from Set. Besides, I need to extinct a couple monsters in that area anyway.

One way or another I'm takin' down a deity... (this doesn't even feel like Easy Mode anymore, I'm so scared).
 
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Splintered

Splintered

unsavory tart
It won't bloom until the end of the 12th day, because it needs the cutscene to explain why.

Oh wow, I didn't catch the overflow glitch easter egg thing. Suddenly the number actually makes sense.
And I took on Ereshkigal (got zero stars but I don't care, I won!)
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Grats! He was an asshole for me, but poison got the best of him. One day I'll learn how to air juggle appropriately and take him out a better way. That reminds me, I still have yet to beat Aeronite.

Now I'm worried about my upcoming fight against Barthandeleus Bhunivelze+ and his phase 2 Doom...
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The only thing I can recommend is save at least two overclocks at the end to stagger him
 
Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
Here's my strategy for most major boss fights:

Soldier of Peace (Artemis Arrows w/lv 3 Heavy Slash).

Phase 1. Empty said ATB meter.
Phase 2. Activate Overclock.
Phase 3. Once Overclock is Empty or "near empty" activate Army of One.
Phase 4. Gain full ATB, repeat Phase 1.

That's precisely how I beat Ereshkigal.

He hit me with a few spells, and Hypernova killed me in one hit, but I used a Phoenix Wing to keep at him. I managed to stagger him a few times this way alone... I didn't even switch schemata.

Having high ATK and MAG stats on the other two Schemata helps boost the damage of Army of One.

Anyway that's the dirty way to do it... especially when you have a ton of Turbo Ethers in your inventory. (I think I used up 3 in that battle). I have 9 EP max so that's plenty for what you need in that particular fight.

On the other hand, Aeronite seems to be far worse and has an even bigger HP pool.
 
Blade

Blade

That Man
AKA
Darkside-Ky/Mimeblade
Meonekton distribution isn't the only FFVII reference in this game either... besides the Cloud and Aerith garbs...

--Claudia (nicknamed Thirteen) has a crush on "Seven" at Canopus Farms. XIII has a crush on VII... get it?

--Cole was the name of the Chocoboy at the Chocobo Farm in FFVII.

--Three of the greens you can grow for Chocobos are Gysahl, Tantal, and Sihlkis greens, same as FFVII.

--Synthesis shops are built similarly around the Materia Synthesis system in Crisis Core.

--One of Lightning's garbs can easily be recolored to look like a Turks suit.

--Soul Seeds being used to forge Ultima Weapon is similar to how the sword was said to be forged out of Materia / one of the WEAPONs.

--Aryas Apples being part of Nora's Special (and said to bring nostalgia to people in a certain novel) is probably a reference to Dumbapples in Crisis Core.
 
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