LOST

[Alex]

I'm fairly sure John Locke is kind of dead at this point.

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Even though a lot of him does bleed through into New Locke's persona, especially when he's talking to Sun.

About Juliet though. I'm FAIRLY sure she's dead, even if the nuke didn't kill her and it all it does is succeed in teleporting the cast back into the present. She still has to content with the injuries of falling down into that massive hole and having a shitload of scaffold and metal dropped on her.

And she never received Jacob's special healing/good luck touch either

 

[Meteo]

This 'game of chess' analysis is extremely compelling with all the evidence presented thus far.

I certainly believe

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Jacob's dying words "They're coming" refer to Jack, Kate, Sawyer, Gin, Hurley, Miles, and possibly Juliet and Sayid returning from 30 years ago, though I'm not quite sure exactly how they return. As Aaron stated above, the title of this episode "The Incident" could be implying that the detonation of the H-bomb was actually deterministic rather than the result of their free will, which wouldn't change the future as Jack and co. were hoping. If that is the case, then flight 815 still crash lands on the island 30 years after the bomb is detonated and the "incident" occurs. Of course the scope of the explosion is never witnessed, all we know is that the bomb did in fact go off. The force of electromagnetism from that pocket of energy could conceivably have dampened the power of the nuclear blast which would have killed Juliet but may have enable the rest above ground to survive. If they do indeed survive, it's possible the "hatch" is never constructed and thus flight 815 does land safely in LA, but Jack and co. from 30 years ago live on the island henceforth. In that instance, "they're coming" could mean Jack and co. from 30 years ago, yet 30 years older than they were.

Also:

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Although Ben is being used, I still contend he will turn out to be on the right side at the end of it all.

I do agree with this assumption on the basis of Ben's long time opposition to Charles Widmore. Widmore, being as cold hearted and destructive as we've seen throughout the series would have to be on the side of the 'black shirt guy', which places Ben on Jacob's side, or rather that's where Ben's true nature lies.

Of course, given the way this episode completely thrashed everyone's expectations for the direction of the series, a good chunk of everything posted so far will probably be proven wrong by the first episode of season six anyway, so take it with a grain of salt

Yea, this finale completely shattered the 'Jack is Jacob' theory. I was actually closer in my suspicion that Richard was Jacob. In fact, Richard seems to play the role of the 'queen' in this 'game of chess', being the most influential and useful tool with which Jacob plays the game and positions his other pieces.

In any case, I fully expect season 6 to be the most intense, and the finale will probably end the series in a way no one could have ever predicted, yet still be an acceptable and appropriate culmination.

 

[Ⓐaron]

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I don't think the bomb actually exploded; I'm pretty sure it just interacted with the energy field to send them all back or some shit. If it really exploded then it'd probably cause a lot moar damage, r'lyeh.

And I'm sure Lindelof and Cuse wouldn't completely fuck with their previously established chronology in such a blatant manner. What happens when the Lostaways get back to the present, of course, is anybody's guess.

 

[Meteo]

Either way, the mindfucking is sure to continue on an even more intense level than before.

When does Season 6 begin?

Also: Extraordinarily brilliant performances by Elizabeth Mitchell (Juliet) and Josh Holloway (Sawyer)! The emotional distress was so convincing it was practically tangible, nearly pushed me to tears, as admittedly this show has done on more than one occasion.

 

[Max Payne]

Sawyer and Juliet were the heart of this season.

6 starts sometime in 2010 unfortunately.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Michael Emerson and Terry O'Quinn deserve commendations for their performances as well, but yeah, without Sawyer and Juliet this season would've been a lot less interesting.

 

[Meteo]

Best couple of the series imo.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Second to Rose and Bernard imo.

 

[Meteo]

Rofl I was pleasantly surprised by Rose and Bernard in the season finale. I'll concede that when it comes to romantic devotion, they win all.

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It was funny how they didn't give two shits about all the apocalyptic time-paradoxical drama all around them. Just simple people wanting to lead a simple life, could care less if they died, as long as they were together.

 

[Max Payne]

They parallel Sawyer and Juliet tbh.

 

[Ⓐaron]

Yeah, that was a pretty deliberate juxtaposition.

 

[Meteo]

Yea, Sawyer and Juliet just couldn't get away from the fray. I blame Kate, damn emotionally reactionary bint.

 

[halfhearted]

To be honest throughout season 5 I didn't see much chemistry between the actors that played Sawyer and Juliet. But the season finale pretty much changed my view of the couple, as well as putting an end to any prospects of Sawyer and Kate ever getting back together.

 

[Ⓐaron]

So yeah, after thinking about it for awhile I don't think Jacob was just

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weaving a tapestry. The tapestry is probably representative of people's lives as a whole, kind of the eponymous wheel of The Wheel of Time, and I'm growing increasingly convinced that Desmond is going to end up being crucial to resolving the conflict (since, as has repeatedly been pointed out, "the rules don't apply to him").

Part of me also suspects we may get a Dark Tower sort of ending where

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another iteration of the cycle opens, except with a subtle change that could lead to a more favourable outcome

. Which would really piss some people off probably, though I personally thought that facet of the ending was perfect (there were others that pissed me off though).

 

[Username]

LOST is great, i have been a follower from the very beginning, but i am not gonna bother using spoiler tags, whats the point,

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so yeh, the bomb had gone off, and hopefully the next series will actually explain what the black smog is.

 

[Alex]

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Yeah i took the tapestry as a pretty obvious metaphor for Jacob's involvement with the cast in the series "It takes a long time when you're making the thread, but I guess that's the point isn't it?" really.

The Dark Tower ending is also the most common one I've heard. I dont have an opinion on it yet, but I'm not sure I like it. But knowing Lost it will probably convince me. It''s just the idea of losing the past 5 years of character development that irks me. However I do remember in some interview where Darlton were discussing this and whether or not 'a thing lived can be unlived' just like that. Kind of suggests that even if it did loop over, then we wouldn't lose the most important thing about the show's run.

 

[Ⓐaron]

@ Alex:

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I definitely don't think the important bits of people's character development will be undone by whatever changes get made, assuming that even happens.

Do you have a link to that interview? I'd like to read/hear it.

i am not gonna bother using spoiler tags, whats the point

The point is so that people who still haven't seen the last episode (it only aired five days ago) won't be spoiled, obviously.

 

[Alex]

To those people that haven't seen it, GO WATCH IT HERE FGTS http://www.cucirca.com/2007/05/12/watch-lost-online/

No I don't have a link unfortunately :/ but I'm sure it was said.

 

[Username]

mako just gave me 1 points for my comments, i mean people know the bomb is set off already, because that guy says it when he sees a picture and says that they all die. come on mako, they might not all die for all i know.

 

[Alex]

Dude people get warned here for posting spoilers for the last harry potter movie, and Mako's been on his man period lately. Just shut up and get on with it.

 

[Ⓐaron]

No one knows that unless they've seen the episode. Stop spoiling shit ffs.

Also your interpretation that

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the bomb goes off

is probably wrong because

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even substantially underground, a hydrogen bomb core would be likely to pretty much kill everyone on the island

. More likely

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they were just time flashes.

 

[Username]

ok i will but i think i stated the obvious right there, and any more warns from admin mako will have me constantkly on ye back.

 

[Alex]

I think it did, to an extent that is. But it just fuxxed with the EM properties of the Swan and necessitated the dumping of so much concrete over the whole place.

ok i will but i think i stated the obvious right there, and any more warns from admin mako will have me constantkly on ye back.

Actually he'll probably just ban you. You should go make a dupe account now, just in case.

 

[Username]

No one knows that unless they've seen the episode. Stop spoiling shit ffs.QUOTE]

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well its obvious since richard says that they have all died when he recieves the dam photo, even a rat would know that the bomb was set off. i knew this before i wacthed the dam episode, so from my point of view, no spoiler.

 

[Ⓐaron]

could be possible. Also if

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radiation was released it would probably explain why women can't give birth, and would make a special irony since it was Juliet that would've caused it to go off

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still. I tend to think the conclusion that

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the bomb went off completely is faulty, and it certainly didn't go off as in Jack's plan

. But we'll find out for sure next season