But one more thing because it hurts my head Tifa bringing having never felt as close with Cloud as this moment is whats built up in this entire game and this is in your mind a non romantic thing? Shes Confessing to him right there and then and we know what happens afterwards when she does.
If I may pivot for a second... I was trying to avoid spoilers around the dates but caved last night and watched, and, like, damn. I did not realize how romantic both Cloud and Tifa were? I didn't know they had it in them. Swoon—
Why are you yelling...
Cloud has to believe that Aerith loves Zack for him to kiss the girl he joined soldier for and wanted to become a special person for. Feelings he still has, as in the demo for the game, he remembers going up to the water tower and thinking about her?Why are you yelling...
I promise it’s not a repost from like 2006
Why else would he even say that statement that she must still have feelings for him if that’s not what he wanted to know? If he wanted to know about Zack then why are Aerith’s feelings about Zack being brought up? He has jealous because we the players/viewers KNOW Aerith and Zack had a romantic relationship before Aerith met Cloud she also mentions to Cloud on their date in the remake at the park where he gets jealous too (though he blocked out Zack’s name) that Zack was her first love. Why did he not just ask Tifa about Zack? He asks if Tifa has talked to Aerith instead. What even prompted him to even have Tifa ask about Zack to Aerith in the first place? We don’t know that yet but we can probably assume he went to Tifa to ask because he trusts Tifa to tell him the truth because Tifa and Aerith are friends and roommates so if anyone would know Tifa would. Instead she lies about the conversation taking place at all. So do you see the issue here?
The same things are being said over and over, with very little variation. :\Don’t bother with andover. It’s impossible arguing with someone who has a horrible mindset of the characters. Real narrow-minded
have you considered that possibility he considers aerith a close friend is upset for her that her boyfriend just disappeared and hasn't been seen in 5 years? have you considered the possibility that, like a good friend, he would want aerith to know about the last time cloud saw zack alive? and like you said he knows tifa and aerith are roomates so he entrusted tifa to tell aerith about this new information regarding zack.
People are always going to flatten characters in favor of their ship because it's easier to do than admit that people are complicated, feelings are complicated, sometimes they overlap, sometimes they diverge, sometimes there's never a true, clear answer because human beings don't operate that way. Love is anything but simple, even in fiction. ...... which, again, is why I love this game. I played it when I was too young to fully grasp any of that, but it left an impression that people and love were beautiful, layered things.
There is no other motivation to ask about Aerith in a conversation where he concludes she still has feelings for her ex if that’s not what he wanted to know upon asking Tifa. Aerith doesn’t have to be brought up at all if we’re being completely honest especially on a high affection date with Tifa where the player has actively pursued her as there are a LOT of things Cloud could have brought up to talk about since it’s nearly the end of the game, such as their childhood and journey—hell even their own bond or Tifa’s feelings for him but Tifa talks about that instead to turn the subject away from Aerith.
Would be pretty weird if all Cloud talked about was how obsessed he was with Tifa. Feel like that'd kill the vibe.
Sorry but this is a clown post and its coping to the highest degree
girl why are you responding to my same comment twice. i'll just copy and paste what i said before:
You never answered, andover why Cloud can only kiss Tifa if Aerith isn't available yet confirms his feelings with Tifa and never does with Aerith. The writers wrote that for one character and not the other i wonder why?
Just find it weird from a story perspective. Like… it just does not compute for me. How do the Clerith fans that hate Tifa square away everything post-Disc 1? Like, how do they deal with the new information provided during the Lifestream sequence.
It sounds sooo beautiful, dou you have
I thought so as well,
Why did Tifa, a woman who has romantic feelings for Cloud, lie about having the conversation at all then if Cloud and Aerith’s relationship is platonic? Let’s go with for Cloud’s feelings for Aerith are platonic, but clearly for Tifa telling Cloud the truth is much more complicated than that for her. She doesn’t see it’s platonic on Cloud’s end? The date means he chose her. Her affection is at its highest here for the date to happen presumably. If she didn’t feel like there was anything between Cloud and Aerith since on Cloud’s end we go with it being concerned for a close friend it would’ve been so easy for her then to say “I have and you should talk to her yourself” or “I have and it’s just not my place.” Wouldn’t it? Let me say again, the date happening with Tifa implies that Cloud chose her so why did she lie then? It’s a romantic date. It should be easy to talk about this if the relationship between Cloud and Aerith is platonic but this is a love triangle. If it was all just Cloud being sad for Aerith as a close friend that her ex seemingly abandoned her he could’ve asked her himself, instead he seemingly has Tifa do it. As we see in Aerith’s version of the date, he’s standoffish and kind of a jerk. His arms are folded when they are sitting together. AERITH brings up Zack, saying she saw Zack in Cloud and that he isn’t Zack and that’s okay because she wants to be with him and how she’s trying to find him, his arms go to his knees. Then CLOUD brings up if Tifa talked to her. The same cutscene plays and Aerith says “I think so? But not about anything important” which implies she didn’t think Zack being mentioned was important. Tifa makes it seem as if the conversation could not even be had with Aerith by lying and saying she hadn’t spoken to her yet and Cloud assumes that it was a “touchy subject” when it seems that Zack being brought up wasn’t a problem for Aerith or at least wouldn’t be from her date at least. But Tifa lies that her conversation with Aerith about Zack did not happen at all. That makes absolutely no sense for her to do unless she is aware there is something happening between Cloud and Aerith romantically. She did talk to Aerith in both versions of the date, she just lies that it happens in hers, you can’t deny that.
Some of the videos were in the spoiler thread here but i think they've all been removed. you might have some luck on 4chan if you want to wander in there but it's pretty gross over there. i think if you go through the gamefaqs spoiler threads some videos might still be up as well.
