Come for the LTD debate, stay for Strangelove's lore! And Aerith's feet.
I think both are gorgeous, but now I am slightly weirded out by Aerith's big feet.
Idk if this is a stereotype in Japan, but my mom used to joke with me that white woman have humongous feet. So I wonder if thats a thing that was on their mind when they were trying to make Aeriths model look western.
Biometrics is a thing. Tifa's feet are fine for her size, but Aerith's stated height is 10 cm (that's roughly 4 freedom units for you americans) shorter than hers. In fact, Aerith and I are the same height, and her feet are reeeeally long. Given her size, they should be smaller and her toes should be slender to fit better with her frame. Twilight, I hope you enjoyed this as a thank you for your efforts
I guess the love-triangle is still firmly in place?
Also, I don't understand why you keep bringing Aerith's importance to the plot as a way of proving CxA ?! Aerith is definitely the catalyst for the narrative, however, this doesn't automatically means: being important on the main plot = being the main romantic interest.
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When you look at her death, her Cetra heritage, Holy, the lifestream, saving the Planet, and her image being the first & last image we see in the entire game, I think my overall, big-picture point is true.
So SE deciding to make Aerith both the FIRST & LAST images of FFVII mean nothing?
That was just a coincidence...?
BlankBeat, do me a favor please. Don't refer to Remake events and OG events as taking place in the same place or continuity, okay? Just for clarity and in order to avoid any misunderstanding. Can you please do that?
Pretty please?
Maybe being polyamorous for so many years has rendered me obtuse with regard to being able to see these things the way the average person does anymore, but I'm reading all these notions of how this or that scene fits the narrative better -- or how this or that bit of dialogue/possible symbolism/lingering gaze undermines someone's love for another person, as though the increase or decrease of love were comparable to increasing or decreasing the pH of a compound -- and I am just boggled and baffled. Perhaps even boffled and baggled.
Love isn't a finite resource that can only be allocated to a predetermined extent. Not even romantic love -- which is oddly the only love people act this way about. No one thinks that deciding to have a second child means the first one isn't loved as much anymore or that the parents want a "better" one.
Madness. =\
I'm terribly monogamous in a commited relationship for more than 12 years (and many more to come lol) with the same partner and I agree with you. I don't get all that symbolism stuff and how affection is a one-dimensional things, love has only one gear and romance must have a roadmap with very specific millestones.
Madness indeed!
Both of the women's Chapter 14 scenes fit perfect narratively. =P The developers were very clear that they went out of their way to give exposure and equivalent significance to scenes featuring them prominently, so they probably worked hard to make both scenes fit so well.
Yep, in my head all the scenes happened that night (poor Cloud, he can't catch a break even asleep lol). I'm loving that and I hope future installments do the same.
But really, you keep making the same arguments over and over, even though many people here have already explained why they don’t agree with you like... if it was a new argument on the same topic, I'd understand, but it’s literally exactly the same thing?
You're allowed to maintain your opinion regardless of what others think, but it's a little frustrating bc you keep ignoring what everyone here is saying if they don't completely agree with you :/
That's my gripe with BB as well. I don't mind musing over other's viewpoints, but trying to have a chat with someone who repeats the same things over and over gets boring fast. Extending common debate courtesy and receiving none from some posters is making my patience grow thin.
I like this post, so I'm going to comment on it quite a bit:
This is very different however. We are talking about a medium that has to establish clearly things. The OG had the advantage of being in one piece, so to speak - and even I have my gripes with it, re: cloti. Actually, I think the Remake is correcting a mistake from the OG, and that is not establishing cloti from the get go. The game pushes you so much towards Aerith that when the romantic conclusion comes, a lot of people either miss it or do not believe in it. To me, that is a mistake, narratively speaking. If you want your character to have a girlfriend, then she must be something else than "oh he just chose her cause she was the only one alive", or "he doesn't love her, he'll love the other girl for eternity!!!". In terms of narrative, it means that you have completely missed your goal, and that is partly why the LTD was born: because people did not understand the original intent.
The technical limitations really did a disservice to the storyline in the OG. Tifa's nuance was lost or stiffed, and that created lots of gaps in terms of narrative, ranging from the motivations behind her actions to her backstory and her role in the storyline. I'm happy we can see all the complex emotions, subtle hints and not-so subtle hints in such detail now.
And to my belief (and some others', apparently I am not the only one thinking that), all the UST and touching is there because they are indeed laying the ground for the Highwind scene.
They are. I deal with visual media and visual storytelling, and this building is required to organicaly reach a climatic point later. Based in all I know, your guess seems very likely.
Do not forget too what Nojima has said: because now the graphics are so realists, a lot of things need to be told in other ways than the OG, which allowed you to fill the blanks with your imagination. That is not the case anymore, and I feel that this is where this comes into play, too.
Each player filling the blanks of a story with this amount of red herrings and unreliable narrators was both a good and bad decision. I mean, it sure proviced discussion for years, but at what cost? Their creative intent was widely minunderstood or outright ignored. Developers were hounded by interviews until they got so fed up that starting trolling the press and the fans.
I know he doesn't look so but. Cloud is 16. In his head, at least, trying desperatly to look like an adult and to tackle things like an adult.
This absolutely does explain why he acts like a puppy around Tifa, whom he's been lovestruck with for YEARS. Remember, they have not met for 5 years (7 for Tifa), but to him, that was just
yesterday. So his true personality bumps back when he's around her. She was far away, unattainable, and suddenly, she is here, talking to him, being friend with him and so... grown up too! Imagine the effect that this can have on him lol, I think the depiction is rather close.
That's make makes CloTi adorable for me in the Remake, tbh. I have loads of pics saved with characters interacting and Cloud just standing here, such as "Barret hugs Tifa and Cloud is useless".
Yes, this is titled "Cloud being useless".
EDIT: Damn this thread moves fast!! I need some time to catch up.
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