I spotted few Clerith shippers in main Spoiler thread.
I think I blocked one who tried to troll me. I'm not in the main spoiler thread to troll/get trolled but to talk about the ending. I ran with the /ignore button.
Now, sorry for the multiquote but I need to get my ideas in order:
And the guy being oblivious and into romantic situations and never outright denying them some cases even slightly smiling. Like on the GS tour he slightly smiles when they wait for the Skywheel then sighs when it's not working giving the impression he looked forward to it at least a little.
The thing is, when you compare his reaction to Aerith and Tifa at his door, they're miles apart. When Aerith tells him the Skywheel is for couple, he doesn't look interested, but at the slightest mention with Tifa, he jumps on the occasion. There's also the way they're always filmed, with in ch8 Aerith take his arm and running to it, Tifa taking his hand and have him holds hers and them advancing like a real couple on the same wavelength. There are differences like these, that make people go "mmh, it looks more romantic with Tifa".
However! I will agree that you can see the Aerith date and see it as completely romantic too. Some people will however be put off by her way of dealing with it, which is why I think that we're meant to see her dream date in a more romantic context.
You get stuff like CAs don't play the games:
While I agree that this comment should not be done because it's false, even Peko came to think like this because of the loudest bunch who... don't play the games lol.
The devs might see it as fanservice or giving both sides what they want. I definitely don't think they see the harm.
I think it was definitely true in the past, but I also think that Nojima, since Remake, has put his foot down. He wants to clear a LOT of misconceptions about the story, which is why so many of the Tifa moments feel validating for CT fans. However, the fact that CAs continue to argue in bad faith about old mistranslations and misconceptions cleared in the game etc. don't help their case. This is also why so many CTs believe a large part don't play the game, because they contradict what the game SAYS.
But also they could have just not. They could have just not focused this much on Aerith's feelings for Cloud to the point it's more of her arc than OG. They could have just not had Aerith talk about love in her resolution they could have just not had sidequests that cater to the ship. They could have just not had Marlene tell Zack about Aerith's feelings for Cloud making it look like some shoujo manga where the heroine is torn. Especially if the point they want us to understand is oh it's not real. She loves Zack.
I understand how you feel but. It's always been how CA operate, as a pairing: it's the illusion side of the romance, CT representing the reality side of it. So they have to represent it.
Yo this is actually wild, but I can believe it because it fits right on in with the modus operandi of some Cleriths who eschew actual source material in favour of "that looks nice so it must be true". Pairing Zack and Tifa is particularly egrigous because firstly it's a not-so-subtle attempt to deal with two major hurdles to CA happening at once, but also it ignores the fact Tifa literally tells Zack in Crisis Core she fancies Cloud lol
It's absolutely remarkable how CC/R went
out of its way to show how
uninterested Zack and Tifa are in each other, with each other thinking and talking about their own object of affection, and yet some people insist they're the "IT" pairing. Just no. Note: there are also people who try to pair Tifa with Barret which is even creepier as I think they have a family-esque father/daughter like relationship. Plus Barret will never be over Myrna, period.
For me The LTD is over but I will say the one thing I will never understand is why they haven't just said That in Advent Children that Tifa and Cloud are a Couple or Married or whatever. For most people it's obvious but even then if it's obvious why not just say it? They only say Living together as a family and then you need a book to say Cloud views himself the same as Evan and Kyrie a boyfriend and girlfriend who are a loving family but not by blood. So at this point can they just confirm it XD. Advent Children narratively is great ideas in a mess of a story. If you need to read books to understand the relationship of characters and conflict of the movie just Wow. I'm praying once remake trilogy is done they finally just say it or show it.
I will say it but AC made me furious because I saw that the devs were catering to both sides, very clearly, and that made me think that SE would never grow balls. But hey, they did learn a lot when those women pitied Tifa. Suddenly they learned a lot.
Holy smokes that was a crazy time here on the boards. I "earned" my stripes and got banned from posting in this thread for about two weeks during that time period. It was insane!
The button ignore to ignore all posts by that user is the best.
Also I think I forgot to say something about one other post I saw on the previous page. Grrr.
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