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I have question and maybe some of you will answer or maybe not. Would you guys be ok with Cloud also having some romantic feelings for Aerith or not? Because personally I really don't like the Idea of that at all even tho he is not himself. I just feel like it would damage clotis relationship even tho he loves Tifa more. And also Tifa never realy wavered either so it sucks kinda sucks if Cloud does but maybe Im just to strict
 

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For part 3 i wonder if they will keep this design. It seems it will be hard because well ones kinda not exactly alive most likely. But also just from the story in endgame where we get the lifestream and Highwind and what most of this game has been setting up a Zack and Aerith Reunion
Considering how the OG goes and the LS stream scene and the fact of where Z and A are by the end. I really don't think they would need it? Even in OG this was a Disk one thing. They might do like character resolutions to end their arc but I don't think any affection system is needed nor would I think it makes too much sense.

Especially since this is Aerith's swansong game they got CAs happy enough so I think they would just continue with their intended story.
 
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Considering how the OG goes and the LS stream scene and the fact of where Z and A are by the end. I really don't think they would need it? Even in OG this was a Disk one thing. They might do like character resolutions to end their arc but I don't think any affection system is needed nor would I think it makes too much sense.

Especially since this is Aerith's swansong game they got CAs happy enough so I think they would just continue with their intended story.
Maybe they will include it for replay value. Im not saying they will put it in just for the highwind but that they might include things that weren't in the original so more optional scenes are possible.
 

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I understand.
I actually had the feeling that, by excluding any optional content, the game was trying to direct you in some way, let me explain:

After Kalm, we have the "date" with Aerith which seems more like "Aerith trying to get Cloud and Tifa to reconcile" than being a real date;

Then we have the event at Junon's tavern (ah, but is Cloud doing sit-ups optional or does it always happen?);

Gongaga;

Church scene that is crazy for me to try to romanticize.
Hmm none of those instances you mentioned are really what I meant. But in general more like if you play the Aerith route as a CA there are enough scenes to be satisfied.

But also I don't take Aerith calling anything a date as her seeing it as any traditional date. That's just to show her personality. She lives in the moment and cherishes it so she likes to spend time with people. She refers to hanging with Tifa as a date too.
 

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I have question and maybe some of you will answer or maybe not. Would you guys be ok with Cloud also having some romantic feelings for Aerith or not? Because personally I really don't like the Idea of that at all even tho he is not himself. I just feel like it would damage clotis relationship even tho he loves Tifa more. And also Tifa never realy wavered either so it sucks kinda sucks if Cloud does but maybe Im just to strict
I’m not entirely opposed to it. Love can be complicated.

However, I think regardless that the LS sequence would solidify Tifa is that person he loves. Whereas Aerith, had she survived, might just be a special friend. I mean, that’s what she is in death as well.
 
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I’m not entirely opposed to it. Love can be complicated.

However, I think regardless that the LS sequence would solidify Tifa is that person he loves. Whereas Aerith, had she survived, might just be a special friend. I mean, that’s what she is in death as well.
Do you think his feelings for Aerith will get brought up in part 3?
 
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I don't think i can convince you otherwise at this point i suppose, but i wanted to say as a counterpoint to this bit that Rebirth, and by proxy Remake also very likely brought in a lot of new Clotis to the mix and i don't think Cleriths are the majority here these days, if they ever were.
My bad, I should not have written it as a fact. It was just my opinion after all, but at the end of the day I don't know if its that important anyway. I can definitely see more of the generall public being cloti now with all the replies I got.

By "the replies I got" I mean that what they were saying made sense to me.
 

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I have question and maybe some of you will answer or maybe not. Would you guys be ok with Cloud also having some romantic feelings for Aerith or not? Because personally I really don't like the Idea of that at all even tho he is not himself. I just feel like it would damage clotis relationship even tho he loves Tifa more. And also Tifa never realy wavered either so it sucks kinda sucks if Cloud does but maybe Im just to strict
No I wouldn't be against it. I'm in the minority sure but in fiction I don't mind to explore complicated feelings. Everyone here is young and in a very weird confusing situation. Feelings also being weird and confusing just wouldn't bother me. I can see why it would you, but that's me. And if that was the story I'd honestly just go with it.

But I just don't see it going that way from where I'm standing.

As for my stance, I think Cloud was always oblivious for Aerith's feelings for him. And finding out she loved Zack would probably make it so he never would ask himself what he feels. I don't think that's where his mind is especially with Disk 3 coming up and the LS and all that.

As a CA would I love it if he did? Of course. But I just don't see that happening based on what is shown. Those are my honest thoughts.

So I don't think it matters if I'm against it or for it. It just matters whatever the devs think and do for Pt3. I'll go with whatever but I see them as conveniently placing Aerith where Zack is as a hint of their intent.

Of course we will will see.
 

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Considering how the OG goes and the LS stream scene and the fact of where Z and A are by the end. I really don't think they would need it? Even in OG this was a Disk one thing. They might do like character resolutions to end their arc but I don't think any affection system is needed nor would I think it makes too much sense.

Especially since this is Aerith's swansong game they got CAs happy enough so I think they would just continue with their intended story.
I agree i think affection worked in Rebirth because plot wise majority of this game is a holiday simulator XD. However for Part 3 Clouds character goes through so much is missing for a while and then we have the lifestream moment. I can't really see any opportunity that would fit tonally for relationship mechanics, hopefully though they just include these bonding moments without a mechanic at all.
 
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No, not really as far as romance goes. It will be touched on that she was someone he deeply cared for though,
And with Zack? There was that Marlene scene after all and Aeriths feelings for Cloud were a major plot point in rebirth wether they were romantic or not.
So do you think that maybe her feelings will be brought up with Zack instead?
 

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I have question and maybe some of you will answer or maybe not. Would you guys be ok with Cloud also having some romantic feelings for Aerith or not? Because personally I really don't like the Idea of that at all even tho he is not himself. I just feel like it would damage clotis relationship even tho he loves Tifa more. And also Tifa never realy wavered either so it sucks kinda sucks if Cloud does but maybe Im just to strict
Yes, I'm ok with it since it's a reflection of real life
 

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And with Zack? There was that Marlene scene after all and Aeriths feelings for Cloud were a major plot point in rebirth wether they were romantic or not.
So do you think that maybe her feelings will be brought up with Zack instead?
thats them building some angst with miscommunication. Marlene says Aerith likes Cloud which is true then in the dream date Aerith speaks about two kinds of like, Marlene also says because Zack wasn't there. Its setting up a conversation between Zack and Aerith in a reunion. Zack was visibly hurt by it but also teases Cloud when he met him at the end briefly. Aerith obviously still loves Zack as she didn't hesistate to say she did at Gongaga "hes never given me a reason not too"
 

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And with Zack? There was that Marlene scene after all and Aeriths feelings for Cloud were a major plot point in rebirth wether they were romantic or not.
So do you think that maybe her feelings will be brought up with Zack instead?
Yes, I think we’ll get Zerith moments in Part 3.
 
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Yes, I'm ok with it since it's a reflection of real life
Calling it a reflection of Real life is a bit of a strech I would say. Not just because of the alien parasite and all that but also because Cloud isn't himself around her. So their relationship is very unique and different than what happens real life
 

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And with Zack? There was that Marlene scene after all and Aeriths feelings for Cloud were a major plot point in rebirth wether they were romantic or not.
So do you think that maybe her feelings will be brought up with Zack instead?

Nevertheless, in Rebirth, Aerith tells Cloud straight up she still loves Zack. No ambiguity or beating around the bush, a straight "Do you still love Zack?" - "Yes."

One cannot suggest otherwise, even if one wants to say she has feelings for Cloud, because she was not separated from Zack by anything other than circumstance. They never had the same resolution that Rebirth has given us for CA, vis, the "now I know where we stand" date in Sector 5, nor did they ever have the same issues that exist up to that point for CA - such as Cloud being stuck in his SOLDIER fantasy persona during their brief encounter, and ultimately, his love for Tifa. These and more are major hurdles that the ship never fully manages to clear, but no such narrative struggles exist for ZA.

This much is for certain, she still has feelings for Zack - she admits it and her actions prove it - and he very clearly has feelings for her. SE did not bring him back for this thread to be left unresolved and they did not decide to end things in Advent Children Complete without recognizing the need for Zack/Aerith to have a reunion, ahead of their depicted togetherness in death.
 

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From what I gathered, the answers are what give the most points! But you still need the smiley to be in light blue to get their HA, so if you're not there after the good answers, you'll need so get some S as quests results to bump them higher!

Thank you.

I found doing Aerith's conversation in Under Junon, and Tifa's in Kalm and Gongaga, three I didn't do before because they weren't mandatory was enough to boost them both to LA. There's the beach conversations I still didn't do as well.

I'm enjoying tinkering around with these mechanics. For Aerith from my previous save I will try doing best answer for Kalm and Nibelheim to see where that leaves her, trying to work out when exactly the smilie will deepen to LA and I think it's 44%.

I don't remember doing squats in Junon, when does this happen.
 
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Yes, I think we’ll get Zerith moments in Part 3.
I mean Aeriths feelings in that instant. So do you think her feelings for Cloud will be brought up because of Zack?
 
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Thank you.

I found doing Aerith's conversation in Under Junon, and Tifa's in Kalm and Gongaga, three I didn't do before because they weren't mandatory was enough to boost them both to LA. There's the beach conversations I still didn't do as well.

I'm enjoying tinkering around with these mechanics. For Aerith from my previous save I will try doing best answer for Kalm and Nibelheim to see where that leaves her, trying to work out when exactly the smilie will deepen to LA and I think it's 44%.

I don't remember doing squats in Junon, when does this happen.
Also synergy. When you unlock synergy moves and do them for the first time in battle it gives them points too. Quite a few. This is how I ended up touring the GS with Tifa in chapter 8 lol.
 

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I mean Aeriths feelings in that instant. So do you think her feelings for Cloud will be brought up because of Zack?
I’m not sure what you mean?

The way I see it, Aerith has realized that Cloud will never be able to replace Zack in her heart. Therefore, both of them will have mutual feelings toward each other in Part 3.
 
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I’m not sure what you mean?

The way I see it, Aerith has realized that Cloud will never be able to replace Zack in her heart. Therefore, both of them will have mutual feelings toward each other in Part 3.
I mean that she thought she loved Cloud. Do you think she will bring this up to Zack or if he will bring this up to her? Its not really relevant anymore but Im still interested to know what you guys think.
 
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