Are you mistaking Nojima and Nomura ?
Probably, I do do that
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Are you mistaking Nojima and Nomura ?
Maybe because it's not a thing from the start. Maybe because Aerith as a character is much more than just her relationship with Cloud. And yes, we can't say the same with Tifa. Because as a character, she is written with a relation with Cloud first and foremost.Some people just want to take every little thing CA has away from them I guess. Oh well. Can't have any happiness in this house.
See ? It doesn't matter. They're too deep in their delulu. That's why i'm not engaging with them anymore. It's just not worth it. They'll die with their headcanon. Nothing we can do about it. Just let them in their closed chamber. If they're happy with their fantasy, good for them.So I had to check twitter because I wanted to see the meltdown and....
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This is not about Love Triangle War. You (i'm not aiming you, just the extreme CAs) made a headcanon too much of a deal. This is just not how these characters have been written. Ever.
That’s some copium.So I had to check twitter because I wanted to see the meltdown and....
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Some people just want to take every little thing CA has away from them I guess. Oh well. Can't have any happiness in this house. The amount of glee, crowing, etc, vindication of people's joy being taken away from them on twitter is going to suck.
I’m sorry I don’t want to be rude but “Take every little thing CA” has is a crazy take. It’s clear the song was never CA’s song to be taken away in the first place but it was automatically taken as such by people who twisted what the author intended. Now the author and writer of the song has come out and said what it’s really about and it’s no surprise people are happy and feel vindicated when what they said has been right all along after having the song twisted and rubbed in their faces for months.Some people just want to take every little thing CA has away from them I guess. Oh well. Can't have any happiness in this house. The amount of glee, crowing, etc, vindication of people's joy being taken away from them on twitter is going to suck.
A lot of the time, the toxic hardcore Cleriths speak about Aerith as if shes the worst but then shes nothing like how they describe her at all and really she just represents the Love of Life and The Planet. You play the game and you don't get this impression then you see all the frustrating takes.No Promises to Keep being some bizarre, ill-placed love ballad written spur of the moment for Cloud alone was always narratively inconsistent in the extreme. We've said here for some time that it needed to be interpreted in light of her character as presented in the games. In Rebirth for instance, before the song Aerith openly admits to still being in love with Zack and after the song is shown to still be trying to shoehorn Cloud into the Zack shaped hole in her heart - right up until the end - before admitting he's just not a fit. Where's the narrative consistency here?
But now we know for definite. NPTK is a song not about any specific individuals, but all the individuals and her entire life and feelings and experiences. The 2 weeks she knew Cloud surely were special, but ultimately were flash in the pan compared to the rest of the 21 years of her existence. The people she knew, the family she had, the life of a Cetra. Everything in this song.
I guess what I'm saying here is, there's so much to Aerith. Trying to force every little thing she does to be validation of CA is an assassination on the character that has been intricately woven by the devs to be far, far more complex than just one exceedingly nuanced relationship. It's why I struggle with the chutzpah of Cleriths who continually accuse those who cannot get on board with the CA ship, through sheer inability to deny the story as presented, of "hating Aerith" - yet it is by virtue of forcing her into the role of Tifa, that of Cloud's own closest "personal connection", that the biggest hatred of Aerith, the real Aerith, shows itself in the fandom.
In any case, now the pieces can fit together. Aerith sings her song for, and about, everyone she cares for ahead of making the ultimate sacrifice. Remove that and what are you left with? Some awkward love confession that Cloud doesn't reciprocate? A confusing mishmash of signals given her growing realization of her fondness for Zack and Cloud's growing realization that Zack and Aerith are a thing? Just awkward, uncomfortable and overly dramatc. I'm glad we can listen to this song now and enjoy it as part of the beautiful story the developers have created for us.
I believe that Aerith has always been and always will be the planet's ''heroine''A lot of the time, the toxic hardcore Cleriths speak about Aerith as if shes the worst but then shes nothing like how they describe her at all and really she just represents the Love of Life and The Planet. You play the game and you don't get this impression then you see all the frustrating takes.
Very well said, very well said indeed.Maybe because it's not a thing from the start. Maybe because Aerith as a character is much more than just her relationship with Cloud. And yes, we can't say the same with Tifa. Because as a character, she is written with a relation with Cloud first and foremost.
This is not about Love Triangle War. You (i'm not aiming you, just the extreme CAs) made a headcanon too much of a deal. This is just not how these characters have been written. Ever.
You have all the rights in the world to cherish characters differently. But you can't impose something the creator is obviously "against".
Aerith is a fantastic character. Because she's much more than just a love interest. She's a sunshine and at the end of the journey, literally a Goddess. The embodiment of the planet herself.
That's how she's been written. That's her role in this story. Nothing more, nothing less.
I don't think that's what Nojima is trying to do. He's just talking about lyrics he wrote and answering to that. I don't think he is taking anything away but clarifying and of course the song includes her feelings for Cloud in it. There are lines that make that clear and it directly refers to her monologue which includes her complex feelings for him. But then also of course Cloud would not be the only person in her heart at journey's end. As her theme song it would include her entire journey.Some people just want to take every little thing CA has away from them I guess. Oh well. Can't have any happiness in this house. The amount of glee, crowing, etc, vindication of people's joy being taken away from them on twitter is going to suck.
I believe that Aerith has always been and always will be the planet's ''heroine''
Praise be unto our Lord and Savior Nojima-sama.