SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

[Sacky]

Yeah i happened upon this person too i'm afraid. Safe to say i did not like their takes either.

I only agree with their capitalistic Tifa regime they claim all Tifa fans are apart of. So can't beat em join em

 

[abzy1200]

Yeah i happened upon this person too i'm afraid. Safe to say i did not like their takes either.

They have to be trolling, the account was only made in April, and in further replies with other people they started using hashtags such as #Clerithtoo and #Justice for Tifa.

Just in general feels unserious, though the cynic in me believes it's real, the optimist in me says it's a cry for attention.

EDIT: If it makes anyone feel better, I replied with only this simple image and ratioed them almost 2:1 in terms of likes, so Twitter isn't a complete lost cause.

 

[Rin]

I personally don't like that they brought Tidus back, couse it felt like it took away from the ending of 10 for me a lot, which i think is one of the strongest FF endings in general, so i'm a little soured about it.

Overall though, i can always pretend the perfect ending doesn't exist in 10-2, so it doesn't bother me whenever i replay 10-2 and such. Not like i play that game for story anyway.

Don't get me wrong, I'm in the camp of believing FFX is a masterpiece from start to finish and I actually really love the ending and I'm accepting of it but I can't lie and say that the 100% ending for X-2 didn't mend my 12-year-old broken heart lol. I don't like the plot of X-2 at all, I think it's horrific even though the game is really fun to play / it was my most played FF growing up, but if it gave me anything it gave me a happy, fanservice reunion for my OTP.

 

[Hellenic]

Don't get me wrong, I'm in the camp of believing FFX is a masterpiece from start to finish and I actually really love the ending and I'm accepting of it but I can't lie and say that the 100% ending for X-2 didn't mend my 12-year-old broken heart lol. I don't like the plot of X-2 at all, I think it's horrific even though the game is really fun to play / it was my most played FF growing up, but if it gave me anything it gave me a happy, fanservice reunion for my OTP.

Yeah that's fair. I also think X-2 is just trash plot wise and i pretty much only play it for the gameplay. I actually think the combat in that was the best till Remake came around as far as the FF series go.

 

[Yoru]

Don't get me wrong, I'm in the camp of believing FFX is a masterpiece from start to finish and I actually really love the ending and I'm accepting of it but I can't lie and say that the 100% ending for X-2 didn't mend my 12-year-old broken heart lol. I don't like the plot of X-2 at all, I think it's horrific even though the game is really fun to play / it was my most played FF growing up, but if it gave me anything it gave me a happy, fanservice reunion for my OTP.

Broken heart mended by Yuna & Tidus reunion.
Mind broken by the view of Wakka's baby.

My 15 years old honest reaction

 

[imach0c0]

Like how hard is it to read in between the lines here. Aerith "Zack sure was charming must have lots of girls". The player seeing Zack is dedicated to Aerith. Cloud "you still like him then" Aerith "he's never given me a reason not to" weird you would think multiple girls would be a reason not too something isn't adding up here. Never seen Zack not been dedicated to Aerith very odd wonder if Aerith could possibly just be unable to accept his death seems to be a theme in the game. Wonder why Aerith is still looking for news

I think some people cherry pick things that favour their head canon of "Zack the womanizer" or the narrative of "Aerith never loved Zack."

Although Aerith is someone who lives in the moment and doesn't really worry for tomorrow, Zack's loss is one of the things that really tests those character traits in her. On the surface, Aerith is trying to move but she struggles to which is why Zack lingers in her heart.

I think Aerith saying that Zack was charming was her way of coping. Its been 4 years since she last heard from him and during those years, she was trying to move on. When she goes to Gongaga, there are Zack triggers everywhere that cause a relapse of emotions. Its easier for her to accept that he left her for other girls than acknowledging his love for her due to the pain it may cause her. When she says she maybe likes Zack, she gets lost in thought which gives us an indication that Zack still lingers in her heart despite what she says/shows on the surface.

 

[imach0c0]

That's my interpretation of it when I saw her saying this to his parents.

Actually it has multiple layers imo :

• Trying to get out of this encounter with them by saying that it's probably not about her in the letter
• Convince herself that she's probably nothing to him, that it was too good to be true in her lonely life
• Trying to fool her mind by portraying him as someone not necessarily loyal, to give herself a reason to give up without regret.

In short, it's complicated. Classic Aerith lol

I think Aerith knows that the letter is about her but doesn't want to acknowledge it because of the pain it may cause her. But yes, there are layers to her being avoidant.

There was a letter from Aerith to Zack that was released in the Limited Edition Crisis Core set and in it, Aerith mentions that when a vendor asked if she had a special someone, she said yes right away. (not sure if this could be used as canon info to the lore)

 

[abzy1200]

deny Cloud copied Zack at all (trivializing Zack as a character again) and believe all parts of Soldier!Cloud are entirely materialized by Cloud’s ideal version of himself. (Which, I would argue, is still an incomplete presentation of his real personality)

Something else I want to address aswell, saying that SOLDIER Cloud is an idealised and accurate representation of himself is just false altogether.

Look no further than how he treats the members of AVALANCHE. The kind, protective Cloud that cherishes everything would never tell somebody to "blow off" just for trying to make conversation.

 

[nars305]

When I think about it Cloud acts more like Sephiroth before he lost his mind. Stoic but can joke a little, not very animated.

 

[Rin]

Broken heart mended by Yuna & Tidus reunion.
Mind broken by the view of Wakka's baby.

My 15 years old honest reaction

That feel when you marry ur brothers widow & have a baby w/ her..... Weird shit, truly lmao

 

[Ryushikaze]

They have to be trolling, the account was only made in April, and in further replies with other people they started using hashtags such as #Clerithtoo and #Justice for Tifa.

Just in general feels unserious, though the cynic in me believes it's real, the optimist in me says it's a cry for attention.

EDIT: If it makes anyone feel better, I replied with only this simple image and ratioed them almost 2:1 in terms of likes, so Twitter isn't a complete lost cause.

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Got a higher resolution version of that image, by any chance?

Something else I want to address aswell, saying that SOLDIER Cloud is an idealised and accurate representation of himself is just false altogether.

Look no further than how he treats the members of AVALANCHE. The kind, protective Cloud that cherishes everything would never tell somebody to "blow off" just for trying to make conversation.

When I think about it Cloud acts more like Sephiroth before he lost his mind. Stoic but can joke a little, not very animated.

SOLDIER Cloud is made up of a mix of Elements of Zack and other ideal SOLDIER types because he wants to be that for Tifa. Some of that includes being cool and aloof like Sephiroth.

 

[Ryushikaze]

That feel when you marry ur brothers widow & have a baby w/ her..... Weird shit, truly lmao

I mean they were becoming an item in 10. 10-2 just made them official and parents.

 

[Eerie]

Something else I want to address aswell, saying that SOLDIER Cloud is an idealised and accurate representation of himself is just false altogether.

Look no further than how he treats the members of AVALANCHE. The kind, protective Cloud that cherishes everything would never tell somebody to "blow off" just for trying to make conversation.

SOLDIER Cloud is the version that Cloud thinks he should be to be the perfect SOLDIER in order to make Tifa notice him. It’s a mix between his personality (the cooler not interested is true Cloud for example), Sephiroth’s and Zack’s.

Also make sense of that but some extreme CAs pretend Tifa is attracted to SOLDIER Cloud and makes him come out while Aerith loves real Cloud and makes him come out. Even though the devs have stated the reverse.

 

[Rin]

I mean they were becoming an item in 10. 10-2 just made them official and parents.

It was weird shit in 10, too lmao

 

[nars305]

Also make sense of that but some extreme CAs pretend Tifa is attracted to SOLDIER Cloud and makes him come out while Aerith loves real Cloud and makes him come out. Even though the devs have stated the reverse.

And it doesn’t matter if this is addressed in ToTP because there is no changing certain people’s minds even if you have legitimate proof.

 

[abzy1200]

Got a higher resolution version of that image, by any chance?

No, sorry, I got if from someone else on twitter.

 

[Sacky]

SOLDIER Cloud is the version that Cloud thinks he should be to be the perfect SOLDIER in order to make Tifa notice him. It’s a mix between his personality (the cooler not interested is true Cloud for example), Sephiroth’s and Zack’s.

Also make sense of that but some extreme CAs pretend Tifa is attracted to SOLDIER Cloud and makes him come out while Aerith loves real Cloud and makes him come out. Even though the devs have stated the reverse.

"Cloud your scaring me" cant get more proof than that. Tifa feared the soldier eyes Aerith liked them cause it was like Zacks

 

[abzy1200]

SOLDIER Cloud is made up of a mix of Elements of Zack and other ideal SOLDIER types because he wants to be that for Tifa. Some of that includes being cool and aloof like Sephiroth.

SOLDIER Cloud is the version that Cloud thinks he should be to be the perfect SOLDIER in order to make Tifa notice him. It’s a mix between his personality (the cooler not interested is true Cloud for example), Sephiroth’s and Zack’s.

I'm having a bit of a brain fart right now, are ye agreeing with me or not? I genuinely can't tell.

"Cloud your scaring me" cant get more proof than that. Tifa feared the soldier eyes Aerith liked them cause it was like Zacks

That's another contrasting thing about this whole thing.

Aerith loves Cloud's eyes because they remind her of Zack's. Tifa is afraid of them because they are a reminder he isn't quite the normal boy he used to be and one she loves.

Basically:

Aerith likes(or liked) SOLDIER Cloud

Tifa doesn't like SOLDIER Cloud

Which checks out with what we know.

 

[Maidenofwar]

I think no matter what some people are just not going to like the way they went with Aerith over the honest, forthright/forward, enterprising version of Aerith they thought existed in OG, they don't want to see those they see as "haters" as right, for them it wasn't a girl hung up on her ex to the extent extremists have called deluded/desperate and sad, I don't know I think some think people are calling Aerith pathetic, and they never wanted Aerith to be a sad, pathetic character, so if they see anything they think justifies that take the defenses go up, so I think part of any possible melt down for p3 not going the way some wants is dismissing everything but OG.

 

[Ryushikaze]

No, sorry, I got if from someone else on twitter.

No worries. Do you know the source document by any chance??

I'm having a bit of a brain fart right now, are ye agreeing with me or not? I genuinely can't tell.

Agreeing, adding clarification. We like to be exactingly correct around these parts.

 

[Hellenic]

Not even have to search in another series. We have Advent Children Tifa. Maybe the most loved outfit of the fandom lmao.

Easily her best outfit to date and it covers her body basically entirely, but apparently i can't like Tifas character outside of her looking hot and having a big busom.

 

[abzy1200]

No worries. Do you know the source document by any chance??

I think it's from one of the older ultimanias. One published when Digicube was still around.

Agreeing, adding clarification. We like to be exactingly correct around these parts.

Thank god, if Ryushikaze himself took me up on something I said about my favourite character I would have been ashamed.

 

[Eerie]

I'm having a bit of a brain fart right now, are ye agreeing with me or not? I genuinely can't tell.

I disagree because SOLDIER Cloud is from true Cloud’s perspective the ideal version of a SOLDIER. True Cloud has quite some warped views due to him being younger in his head.

 

[pxl_pushr]

I think no matter what some people are just not going to like the way they went with Aerith over the honest, forthright/forward, enterprising version of Aerith they thought existed in OG, they don't want to see those they see as "haters" as right, for them it wasn't a girl hung up on her ex to the extent extremists have called deluded/desperate and sad, I don't know I think some think people are calling Aerith pathetic, and they never wanted Aerith to be a sad, pathetic character, so if they see anything they think justifies that take the defenses go up, so I think part of any possible melt down for p3 not going the way some wants is dismissing everything but OG.

So she gets to join the rest of the cast in being sad and somewhat pathetic. Sounds like a win to me lol

 

[Yoru]

I think no matter what some people are just not going to like the way they went with Aerith over the honest, forthright/forward, enterprising version of Aerith they thought existed in OG, they don't want to see those they see as "haters" as right, for them it wasn't a girl hung up on her ex to the extent extremists have called deluded/desperate and sad, I don't know I think some think people are calling Aerith pathetic, and they never wanted Aerith to be a sad, pathetic character, so if they see anything they think justifies that take the defenses go up, so I think part of any possible melt down for p3 not going the way some wants is dismissing everything but OG.

Thing is. It's good for a character to have flaws. That makes them interesting.

Sure I agree it's not really enjoyable to watch people using them to be mean and talk with bad faith.

But on the other side of the spectrum, you see Aerith's fan pushing this all mighty version of her. Girl has no flaws. All she say is the truth. All she does is right. And it's just wrong all the same. It's not helping her either imo.