SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

[Sacky]

To be fair, it also plays during Cait Sith’s death. It’s just the designated “bittersweet” song.

wonder if it will play in mideel in part 3 since now they have a different version for each character which is cool

 

[Stiggie]

Funnily enough. I like the one of the right better.

I wonder what that says about me.

Wait… aren’t they sisters too? Doesn’t that make this even more fucked up. Especially for their kid, as their aunt is their stepmother I guess?

Jeez, what is this fuckery?

Just remember, it can always be worse

 

[GamerSkull]

Just remember, it can always be worse
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I have a morbid curiosity. What happened with that one? Never heard of it.

 

[Stiggie]

I have a morbid curiosity. What happened with that one? Never heard of it.

This is probably the most infamous example of a manga going wtf wrong at the end, moreso even than Domestic girlfriend.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Its the cute story of how a dude decides to adopt the illigitimate hated daughter of his grandfather or something. (It's been a while since I've read it) and how they help each other grow as people. Guy has a nice romance with some teacher. Then there is a timeskip at some point after which the girl is a teenager and also dating some dude, but then suddenly she gets a crush on her stepdad, and while I believe he initially rejects her advancements the story ends with them together. This one is extra hated because before the heel turn this manga was seen as an incredibly wholesome story about parenthood and the like

This is a good video about it

 

[GamerSkull]

This is probably the most infamous example of a manga going wtf wrong at the end, moreso even than Domestic girlfriend.

Spoiler: Spoiler

Its the cute story of how a dude decides to adopt the daughter of a dead friend or something (It's been a while since I've read it) and how they help each other grow as people. Guy has a nice romance with some teacher. Then there is a timeskip at some point after which the girl is a teenager and also dating some dude, but then suddenly she gets a crush on her stepdad, and while I believe he initially rejects her advancements the story ends with them together. This one is extra hated because before the heel turn this manga was seen as an incredibly wholesome story about parenthood and the like

 

[Empyrea]

Just remember, it can always be worse
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Ah, yes... This monstrosity...
The progenitor of people in some anime communities saying a series "Usagi dropped."

 

[pxl_pushr]

Ah, yes... This monstrosity...
The progenitor of people in some anime communities saying a series "Usagi dropped."

Never before have I ever gone from “this is delightful” to “this is literally the absolute worst”

 

[Stiggie]

Ah, yes... This monstrosity...
The progenitor of people in some anime communities saying a series "Usagi dropped."

And now I know what I'd call it if FFVII:R somehow ended up with Clerith being Canon XD

 

[pxl_pushr]

And now I know what I'd call it if FFVII:R somehow ended up with Clerith being Canon XD

Final Fantasy 7 Refunded

 

[Maidenofwar]

Something else that came up today, is the thing about Zack saying he had several girlfriends that could hide him is floating around again from the OG JP version and CCCG, ZA need a scene where they clear up these misunderstandings together.

 

[Lex]

Get the conversation back on track please folks, a friendly reminder that this particular section is a little more strict than the rest of the board so try to keep meme'ing and off-topic discussion to an absolute minimum. This is obviously not referring to the few posts immediately prior to mine

Please and thank you

 

[GamerSkull]

Something else that came up today, is the thing about Zack saying he had several girlfriends that could hide him is floating around again from the OG JP version and CCCG, ZA need a scene where they clear up these misunderstandings together.

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s been retconned for the most part. I think the current Zack depiction is that he’s basically got the rizz with women… but that despite that he’s still a one-woman man for Aerith.

 

[null]

Things I learned as of today:

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1789014783133614436

(clatty= cloti).

After all this time it did not occur to me what Japanese fans call the ship. I guess it’s クラテイ? But is that really Clatty or is it supposed to be Cloti transformed through the famous katakana loan word funhouse mirror?

 

[GamerSkull]

After all this time it did not occur to me what Japanese fans call the ship. I guess it’s クラテイ? But is that really Clatty or is it supposed to be Cloti transformed through the famous katakana loan word funhouse mirror?

Clatty is still better than Clifa.

 

[Yoru]

Yeah, I’m pretty sure that’s been retconned for the most part. I think the current Zack depiction is that he’s basically got the rizz with women… but that despite that he’s still a one-woman man for Aerith.

I may not have the best of memories and may have to check again, but personally I always understood it as : Zack got the rizz, but the moment he met Aerith everything changed.

 

[GamerSkull]

I may not have the best of memories and may have to check again, but personally I always understood it as : Zack got the rizz, but the moment he met Aerith everything changed.

Yeah, basically this. He was really good at talking to women and going on dates and whatever, but Aerith was the first time he ever felt serious about a romance.

 

[Rin]

Something else that came up today, is the thing about Zack saying he had several girlfriends that could hide him is floating around again from the OG JP version and CCCG, ZA need a scene where they clear up these misunderstandings together.

I don't think there's anything for them to discuss here because Zack doesn't have multiple girlfriends. Aerith doesn't actually believe that he does either, she's just deflecting. Plus, Zack doesn't tell Cloud he has multiple girlfriends in Crisis Core, which overrides what he says in the OG.

 

[GamerSkull]

It’s definitely been retconned. But you know people will almost assuredly act like it’s still true.

 

[Rin]

It's a really frustrating talking point because yes, Zack does flirt with other women BEFORE he meets Aerith. Is that a crime now? It's so disingenuous lmao

 

[Yoru]

It’s definitely been retconned. But you know people will almost assuredly act like it’s still true.

I think it's good. He can have several girlfriends and still be a good match for Aerith.

That's not much compared to Cloud's hall of fame, if what Cult Clerith says about him to justify his love for Aerith is anything to go by.

 

[GamerSkull]

It's a really frustrating talking point because yes, Zack does flirt with other women BEFORE he meets Aerith. Is that a crime now? It's so disingenuous lmao

Yeah, the only other time is when he asks Cissnei out to dinner. Which I think is pretty early on.

 

[Rin]

Yeah, the only other time is when he asks Cissnei out to dinner. Which I think is pretty early on.

He also asks Cloud out to dinner which people pointedly ignore (we all know why) and he gets annoyed when the other troopers invite themselves out with them because he wanted it to be just him and Cloud. Guess he's cheating on Aerith with Cloud, too.

 

[GamerSkull]

He also asks Cloud out to dinner which people pointedly ignore (we all know why) and he gets annoyed when the other troopers invite themselves out with them because he wanted it to be just him and Cloud. Guess he's cheating on Aerith with Cloud, too.

You mean when he invites him in Junon?

I think it’s pretty clear that Zack definitely only has eyes for Aerith after the timeskip.

His dying thoughts are of her. He goes back to Midgar, which is actually the worst place to go considering his situation, in order to be with her.

 

[Eerie]

After all this time it did not occur to me what Japanese fans call the ship. I guess it’s クラテイ? But is that really Clatty or is it supposed to be Cloti transformed through the famous katakana loan word funhouse mirror?

It's Kurati normally but clatty is the google translation lol. Basically Cloud and Tifa mashed together as usual for Japanese pairings names [Kura(udo)Ti(fa)].

Edit: for Zack, I think in BC (and Maiden), his characterisation was only relying on what Aerith said in Gongaga so.... since she was in denial, yeah.

 

[Hellenic]

After all this time it did not occur to me what Japanese fans call the ship. I guess it’s クラテイ? But is that really Clatty or is it supposed to be Cloti transformed through the famous katakana loan word funhouse mirror?

I honestly didn't even know they had a ship name. I just assumed they always refer to the pairings with just the character names straight up.