SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

GamerSkull

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One side: Hmmm, I can only harvest the end of the game for visuals showing this pairing is the true one.

The other side: golly, how am I supposed to pick just 4 screenshots showing this pairing is the true pairing?

Hmmmmmm
Imagine if Zerith does happen, they would have to fly through some pretty interesting mental gymnastics to twist that one, particularly the whole “reunite in the LS” one. Which wouldn’t work with Zerith being canon.
 

Yoru

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One side: Hmmm, I can only harvest the end of the game for visuals showing this pairing is the true one.

The other side: golly, how am I supposed to pick just 4 screenshots showing this pairing is the true pairing?

Hmmmmmm

The 4 screenshots being :

  • Aerith throws herself into his arms, apologizing
  • Cloud during a fatal fall
  • An optional moment (ironic)
  • The hand of a ghost

What a joke. And I'm not even saying Cloud doesn't care about Aerith. It's just their evidences that are ridiculous.
 

Nancy

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Imagine if Zerith does happen, they would have to fly through some pretty interesting mental gymnastics to twist that one, particularly the whole “reunite in the LS” one. Which wouldn’t work with Zerith being canon.
I absolutely love it when the delulu side predict something & it goes to the other couple or to other characters lol
 
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Yoru

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Maybe one day they'll understand that Cloud HATES having his hand forced? That Tifa respects his comfort zone and that he comes to her on his own? That she doesn't need to drag him on dates.

And that's precisely why it's so obvious that Aerith knows nothing about him. And why it doesn't work. And why she doesn't want to understand that he's not Zack (sorry, the GS doesn't exist, it's an optional scene apparently).
 

pxl_pushr

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Pixel
All those CA scenes are cute and possibly romantic/coupley (especially the ZeLink parallel), I don't need to downplay anything, throwing shade and telling people to throw in the towel aside, I see nothing wrong with enjoying the shots themselves.
They are beautifully rendered, it just kind of annoys me that by ripping them out of context it’s robbing those moments of what really makes them beautiful.

Aerith is saying goodbye to someone special to her, despite her feelings towards him being uncertain. Cloud, regardless of his confusion, is reciprocating that tenderness because he can tell she needs it. Cloud “I’m not your bro” Strife. That’s a big chunk of character growth despite his current mental state.
 

Yoru

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If it were a game with choices, everyone should have the right to have their own adventure.

If it were a game without choices, everyone should have the right to have preferences.

What's not acceptable is forcing your tastes on others.

What's not acceptable is refusing to just respect the game's story and impose your vision on others.

It's as simple as that.
 

GamerSkull

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Sorta on-topic but changing the subject a little:

I’m actually hoping that a lack of affinity system in the next game helps a lot more with the side quest progression. I actually want to see side quests where more of the group do things together instead of just “this one is a Tifa quest and this one is a Yuffie quest.”
 

Yoru

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Sorta on-topic but changing the subject a little:

I’m actually hoping that a lack of affinity system in the next game helps a lot more with the side quest progression. I actually want to see side quests where more of the group do things together instead of just “this one is a Tifa quest and this one is a Yuffie quest.”

Just replace it with a "group affinity" to unlock Duo techniques and all but nothing more. You can even use it as story telling when Cloud is gone and there is no team leadership for a time until Barret asks Tifa to step up.

I don't see another way to do it. You can't keep the actual system because the next game is not Cloud centric (if we follow the OG)
 

pxl_pushr

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Pixel
Sorta on-topic but changing the subject a little:

I’m actually hoping that a lack of affinity system in the next game helps a lot more with the side quest progression. I actually want to see side quests where more of the group do things together instead of just “this one is a Tifa quest and this one is a Yuffie quest.”
Considering part 3 is the part of the story where we spend time in other characters’ boots, I think it’s likely. Wouldn’t be shocked if the Wutai section doesn’t actually have Cloud and Tifa in it or it’s a FF8 moment where Group A goes to one place while Group B goes to the other.
 

abzy1200

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Good call, I just opened twitter for a second and the stuff that I saw was so delusional I just....I can't.

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This is unhinged, this is INSANE. How are they able to type this stuff and at no point go "wait, what the hell just happened, I thought that was reasonable there for a sec".
"at the end of the story"

Now I'm really starting to think Cleriths never played past disc 1.
 

GamerSkull

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Considering part 3 is the part of the story where we spend time in other characters’ boots, I think it’s likely. Wouldn’t be shocked if the Wutai section doesn’t actually have Cloud and Tifa in it or it’s a FF8 moment where Group A goes to one place while Group B goes to the other.
I think that might be neat. I definitely want Tifa to get more to do as party leader. Cid gets to go after two huge materia in the OG whereas Tifa is only party leader for the search for Cloud.

Because of this, the last time I played, I saved Wutai for when she’s party leader.
 

pxl_pushr

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Pixel
I think that might be neat. I definitely want Tifa to get more to do as party leader. Cid gets to go after two huge materia in the OG whereas Tifa is only party leader for the search for Cloud.

Because of this, the last time I played, I saved Wutai for when she’s party leader.
I completely forgot about Glen, so Wutai will probably have Cloud around lol but yeah I can see the game needing to have Vincent as leader to hit up Lucrecia’s cave for example.
 

GamerSkull

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I don’t think most normal people will mind Tifa being the leader for a portion of the story. It was in the original after all.

Obviously, Cloud will still be the leader for most of the game.
 

Yoru

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I don’t think most people will mind Tifa being the leader for a portion of the story. It was in the original after all.

Obviously, Cloud will still be the leader for most of the game.

You know.... there's a lot about the original that some people seem to have missed.

And I'm really curious to see if the developers will dare to keep it that way (=Aerith really not present for most of the story).
 

pxl_pushr

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Pixel
You know.... there's a lot about the original that some people seem to have missed.

And I'm really curious to see if the developers will dare to keep it that way (=Aerith really not present for most of the story).
This is how it should be. This is not how it will be…

Maybe. I definitely think we won’t get much of her at least. Enough footage to make a bait trailer, but maybe 3 hours out of 40.
 

GamerSkull

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I fully expect she’ll basically be around in the exact same capacity as Zack in Rebirth. Hopefully, they’re together in a party for a portion of it.
 

Yoru

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Who's excited for an Aerith/Zack synergy skill?

Ah yes, "Were you thinking about another girl?" and "You vs the guy she told you not to worry about" my favorite synergy skills.

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I just hope they have moments together and maybe a bit more interactive... Zack moments were "nice" but not very interesting (from a gameplay perspective) for the most part..
 

Yoru

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I'm someone who wants us to get back to Cloud being the leader ASAP because the players need to have true Cloud the most possible around... or else we're still going to have people not understanding what he's going through.

I think we still need at least 2 chapters without him with stronger ennemies to show people why Cloud is important and why the team needed him even when he started to loose it in Remake/Rebirth.

Same reason I don't want Aerith around. You have to show you miss them with game design.
 

pxl_pushr

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Pixel
Wouldn’t mind if the group falls apart post escape from Junon. That way when Cloud returns we’ve gotta “get the band back together” which also means he’s going to need to actively prove he’s not the same loner asshole he started out as.

Definitely want everyone to get a healthy helping of real Cloud so everyone understands ( hopefully ) that enlightened Cloud is a lovable dork, not a tryhard edgelord.
 

Yoru

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Wouldn’t mind if the group falls apart post escape from Junon. That way when Cloud returns we’ve gotta “get the band back together” which also means he’s going to need to actively prove he’s not the same loner asshole he started out as.

Definitely want everyone to get a healthy helping of real Cloud so everyone understands ( hopefully ) that enlightened Cloud is a lovable dork, not a tryhard edgelord.

That would be soooo cool. Cloud & Tifa journey to get the band together. When you complete the quest linked to the character you unlock his synergy skill and so on.
 
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