SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

[pxl_pushr]

I wonder if Cloud's susceptibility to Mako Poisoning might be related to his natural shitkicker-ness. He sucks up all the extra lifestream energy around him so readily, but that means when it's too abundant he is at risk faster.


I mean, they have had always just mysteriously died then. We're just making dumb jokes about it now.


I think being flash incinerated by the heat would stop things long before they passed the molten core.


Jet pilot helmets, blast helmets, if we extend this beyond pure hats we can go with overalls for the pipe bombs and spider heads and feet for the stickies.


When Pete stops quipping, the fight is over. If he's still moving, that mean YOU are over.


Finding the right moment to strike, and all.


He's also often the sacrificial lamb. Though it did mean he got to sit out of Hero's Reborn after the Onslaught event.


Like I said, no disputes.


Like Scarlet Witch in the modern era.


To clarify, Betsy Braddock who is now Captain Britain reformed her body and Kwannon who is now Psylocke also got her body back.
Also her first appearance was in '76 in her Brother's Captain Britain comic, and the appearance changeover happened in 1989, and she got her original body back in 2018. So yep, 13 years versus 39.


He knows what he wants and he goes for it.


Wilkins was I think the second best realized big bad of the show. And it was on another "this might be our last hurrah" season.


But how could such a thing be possibe? We need more epicycles!


I mean feel free to do so. I'm basically just repeating the sourcebook.


"I'm willing to do a lot of shit but I ain't fucking with those freaky space babies. I'm gone"


If Glenn has anything to do with Cloud, Uncle or Cousin should be as close as the relationship gets.


If they do that, then Tifa's should be the one attacked, and Cloud should pull Tifa in, to echo the OG game.

Does it count if the whales kiss, or do we award half points in that case

 

[abzy1200]

If Glenn has anything to do with Cloud, Uncle or Cousin should be as close as the relationship gets.

Uncle-in-law or third cousin, maybe.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Does it count if the whales kiss, or do we award half points in that case

If the whales kiss, all the better.

Uncle-in-law or third cousin, maybe.

Glenn will turn out to be Cloud's father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate

 

[abzy1200]

Glenn will turn out to be Cloud's father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate

He better.

 

[Hellenic]

Also most FF characters are designed to appeal to the players.

Every FF character looks hot basically. It's a staple of the series a this point .

 

[pxl_pushr]

If the whales kiss, all the better.


Glenn will turn out to be Cloud's father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate

Cloud, Rufus, and Glenn, all Sons of Liberty.

Hojo removes his mask to show Hideo Kojima.

 

[ViolaaFox]

Every FF character looks hot basically. It's a staple of the series a this point .

Anyone who isn't Hojo.

 

[Hellenic]

Anyone who isn't Hojo.

That's a fair point.

 

[Maidenofwar]

Yeah it's not that uncommon for some people to think nothing happened in OG, even streamers I watched that flavoured Tifa, always had her in their party when possible, etc said it was vague. I've also seen folk skip going back to Shinra Manor to see the optional Zack scenes, saying they didn't want him to be important.

 

[Yoru]

I don't know what people imagine when after the line "Words aren't the only way to tell someone how you feel" there's a fade to black, but I suppose the voice acting and motion capture in part 3 should help you see things more clearly.

 

[Eerie]

It's vague if you don't understand that the LS scene is basically a giant love confession. Which, it is. And it's 100% going to be mushier and have a kissing scene because people lack comprehension skills. Which is sad but hey. The LS scene is the resolve of the LT in the OG, it will still be the resolve of the LT in p3.

Talking about if they’ll incorporate Tifa’s past/ToTP-

In the Mideel part where she stays with Cloud, is there a lot of conversation they have there or is it just the place Tifa is left? Like do they hang out around with Cloud a lot or just the part where he is found?

In the OG they just leave her there and we find her back right before the LS scene begins.

What's interesting is that we can think that Tifa having the same core memories as Cloud means that no other memory will be explored, however... I would like to raise up everyone's attention on the Back Whispers flying above Cloud's memories of the Lifestream scene in the ending. What are they doing there? Are they corrupting Cloud's memories? Or something alike?

The Weapons tried to protect those memories but they were outnumbered and had to go in the end - so it means Sephiroth has another plan for the LS sequence to not happen me think. Which means that definitely the LS sequence will have those memories that will need to be restored, but also other memories talked about. So ToTP should be used heavily there, with Cloud's answers being the other side of Tifa's memories; and as I said it, the LS is made not only of memories, but also feelings and hopes, and this is what is going to make Sephiroth lose IMHO.

Yes, because we finally know that everything that is pink is Aerith. I think I have the links to some of these Tweets still on my phone it was wild.

To be very honest, those Weapons are young and pink and blue are Aerith and Zack's colours so I always wonder in the back of my head if he helps her summon them. That would be fcking wild to see tbh, how Weapons are created. It would be awesome if she had a moment of revelation "oh I must create those Weapons in the past so they can help Tifa in Gongaga!" Like I would dig that (not sure they're going there but I may like that theory only for that lol).

That would also imply that Sephiroth can maybe corrupt some Weapons.

Yeah not a fan of this idea either, but man he looks so much like Cloud it's insane.

He doesn't look like Cloud at all lmao? By any FF/VII standard, he's pretty ugly. His character also doesn't match Cloud's father. And in the EC Halloween event, he didn't recognise Nibelheim at all.

Reusing the ying/yang symbolism there would be a nice touch

Yeah I think it should be used after the LS scene, maybe when they find them on the shore? Once Cloud is himself.

 

[abzy1200]

On the topic of the LS. At the very end of the LS when Cloud and Tifa rise back up to the surface, do we think they holding hands, or atleast doing something like that? Because it seems like Tifa rises up faster but then she slows down and her speed matches with Cloud's and their hands are touching off one another's.

 

[Eerie]

I always thought they held hands there, not sure if this is confirmed anywhere though. I know she held hands with kid!Cloud in the LS and that is 100% confirmed.

 

[abzy1200]

I always thought they held hands there, not sure if this is confirmed anywhere though. I know she held hands with kid!Cloud in the LS and that is 100% confirmed.

Really? Could I get a source or is that asking for too much?

 

[pxl_pushr]

It's vague if you don't understand that the LS scene is basically a giant love confession. Which, it is. And it's 100% going to be mushier and have a kissing scene because people lack comprehension skills. Which is sad but hey. The LS scene is the resolve of the LT in the OG, it will still be the resolve of the LT in p3.


In the OG they just leave her there and we find her back right before the LS scene begins.

What's interesting is that we can think that Tifa having the same core memories as Cloud means that no other memory will be explored, however... I would like to raise up everyone's attention on the Back Whispers flying above Cloud's memories of the Lifestream scene in the ending. What are they doing there? Are they corrupting Cloud's memories? Or something alike?

The Weapons tried to protect those memories but they were outnumbered and had to go in the end - so it means Sephiroth has another plan for the LS sequence to not happen me think. Which means that definitely the LS sequence will have those memories that will need to be restored, but also other memories talked about. So ToTP should be used heavily there, with Cloud's answers being the other side of Tifa's memories; and as I said it, the LS is made not only of memories, but also feelings and hopes, and this is what is going to make Sephiroth lose IMHO.

To be very honest, those Weapons are young and pink and blue are Aerith and Zack's colours so I always wonder in the back of my head if he helps her summon them. That would be fcking wild to see tbh, how Weapons are created. It would be awesome if she had a moment of revelation "oh I must create those Weapons in the past so they can help Tifa in Gongaga!" Like I would dig that (not sure they're going there but I may like that theory only for that lol).

That would also imply that Sephiroth can maybe corrupt some Weapons.

He doesn't look like Cloud at all lmao? By any FF/VII standard, he's pretty ugly. His character also doesn't match Cloud's father. And in the EC Halloween event, he didn't recognise Nibelheim at all.

Yeah I think it should be used after the LS scene, maybe when they find them on the shore? Once Cloud is himself.

I have a feeling the LS scene is going to take up an entire chapter and be more than a long long detailed conversation between Tifa and multiple aspects of Cloud’s consciousness.

I’ll be ( pleasantly ) surprised if they can resist shoving in some enemy encounters and a boss.

 

[Edley]

On the topic of the LS. At the very end of the LS when Cloud and Tifa rise back up to the surface, do we think they holding hands, or atleast doing something like that? Because it seems like Tifa rises up faster but then she slows down and her speed matches with Cloud's and their hands are touching off one another's.

Yeah, the visual language of the entire arc in the OG is Tifa running and trying to catch up to Cloud and that's the moment she finally does.

 

[abzy1200]

Yeah, the visual language of the entire arc in the OG is Tifa running and trying to catch up to Cloud and that's the moment she finally does.

I just feel like it doesn't match what comes immedialy after. Unless the party split them up off screen, it would be weird for Cloud and Tifa to wash up in different places if they were holding hands.

 

[Yoru]

They've said so many times that this is their favorite scene that I think we should expect something quite different from the rest of the game. It's probably the moment when they challenge themselves as developers and use this very ethereal area for some crazy, all-out staging.

 

[abzy1200]

It's probably the moment when they challenge themselves as developers

That doesn't inspire confidence in me, honestly. Seeing as they probably "challenged" themselves with Aerith's death aswell.

 

[Ryushikaze]

So while twitter is often a complete shithole, I have discovered something fucking fascinating.

And that's that in the official localization of Case of Tifa, Marlene says "Cloud and Tifa can be my parents for now." so even she is thinking of them as her (temporary) mom and dad.

I have a feeling the LS scene is going to take up an entire chapter and be more than a long long detailed conversation between Tifa and multiple aspects of Cloud’s consciousness.

I’ll be ( pleasantly ) surprised if they can resist shoving in some enemy encounters and a boss.

My suggestion for how to alleviate this is that during the Zack's Death flashback that should be very shortly after this, we have to play his final moments. That way you get a big fight moment, but it's not part of the LS sequence itself. The sequence itself already comes right off another large monster boss fight so that's not a problem.

 

[Eerie]

Really? Could I get a source or is that asking for too much?

I can't find it to save my life now

But I found some other explanations some people were asking in the Omega Ulti:


This is what happens when Tifa falls in the Lifestream in the OG.

And that's that in the official localization of Case of Tifa, Marlene says "Cloud and Tifa can be my parents for now." so even she is thinking of them as her (temporary) mom and dad.

I thought it was known tbh, I knew it because I reread CoT not so long ago xD It's part of the revised edition.

 

[pxl_pushr]

So while twitter is often a complete shithole, I have discovered something fucking fascinating.

And that's that in the official localization of Case of Tifa, Marlene says "Cloud and Tifa can be my parents for now." so even she is thinking of them as her (temporary) mom and dad.


My suggestion for how to alleviate this is that during the Zack's Death flashback that should be very shortly after this, we have to play his final moments. That way you get a big fight moment, but it's not part of the LS sequence itself. The sequence itself already comes right off another large monster boss fight so that's not a problem.

That’s actually very sweet. Gah their hodgepodge of a found family is sweeter than chocolate factory sometimes.

I have no doubt the LS sequence will be lovingly crafted. It’s something they’ve been building towards since Remake, I just hope they stick the landing and people actually pay attention this time.

Combat sections could be used to underscore certain aspects of Cloud’s consciousness ( have him randomly defend her, auto catch her for a quick recovery, kid Cloud toss her the equivalent of potion etc )

I just think it’d be a bit more potent if they held all that back and just… let it be more a place of exploration, like one step below a full on zone.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I can't find it to save my life now

But I found some other explanations some people were asking in the Omega Ulti:

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This is what happens when Tifa falls in the Lifestream in the OG.


I thought it was known tbh, I knew it because I reread CoT not so long ago xD It's part of the revised edition.

I've just gotten never gotten around to reading the official translation and I spent so long with the old fan translations so it was a welcome surprise to see.

 

[Stiggie]

Isn't it already declared over with articles being written about CT. Well, if/when they end it in a way that can't be denied, I hope Nojima makes his x account private because it's definitely gonna be a shit show.
I signed up for a summer psychology class to see if I can figure out the extremists in fandoms.

Meanwhile I've also read an article talking about how Rebirth decided not to take a stance concerning the LTD. The brainrot is amazing.

and 1 girl (who I ended up later marrying ).

Don't you lord your happiness over us!!!!

Glenn will turn out to be Cloud's father’s brother’s nephew’s cousin’s former roommate

I understood that reference!

 

[Yoru]

Meanwhile I've also read an article talking about how Rebirth decided not to take a stance concerning the LTD. The brainrot is amazing.

Honestly, I'm getting to the point in my life where I don't think I care. Let them say what they want. All I know is that the game speaks directly to me. So keep making the best game you can make. I don't give a damn about the internet reading of the situation. I'll be in my corner enjoying it.