SPOILERS LTD Remake — It's like New Coke except ... no, it's exactly like New Coke

Skilganon

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Tim
For me, I couldn't tell you how incompatible Cloud and Tifa are (or Cloud and Aerith for that matter). The reason I like CT more is because of their shared backstory and the reveals in the life stream scene.

But even looking at the compilation as a whole, I think we are lacking scenes of them being happy together as a couple. And the games have already given scenes of CA being happy in a couple-like context. There's the rooftop walk, the wall-market section, the dream-date.

With CT, there's the constant angst, the push-pull created by Cloud's alienation and memory issues. There's the physically intimate moments and the shyness. But when do we see them just be happy together? I don't know what that would look like. If you take away the drama, what's left?
 

Eerie

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I do think the Compilation is lacking in the showing CT as a happy couple, which is kinda normal since the Compilation focuses on problems to solve. But I did think there was some happy CT in CoT, though maybe not enough, and TKaA voiced Cloud’s happiness.

The wallmarket wasn’t about CA as a couple, it was about them wanting to save Tifa. And during the Honey Bee Inn scene, she gets excited when he acts the most like Zack so yeah…

The dream date still ends with Aerith coming to the conclusion that they’re not a couple, and even during the date everything turns wrong so I’m not sure where you’re seeing the happiness because there’s more happiness coming from Cloud in both GS CT dates in that yes, she was the one he wanted to be with.

I don’t really see the rooftop as a couple thing, they’re barely meeting each other - again a contrast with Tifa showing Cloud’s Stargazer Heights, if you follow them from 7th Heaven. They do have a lot to relearn from each other, which they have been doing since tho. And yes I wish they had chosen the faces Cloud makes off camera there but it’s something already that he was modelled that way but they chose not to show it.

Overall I will say it: the pretty CA scenes are for a lot of them very superficial and mostly about Aerith, not about Cloud, while the CT scenes are about themselves as a couple or hints about their future lives, or about Cloud. This is why Rebirth feels extremely CT, it’s because they are being built as the canon pair, and they are needed for the intimate plot to take place. Now it is true that after the Lifestream scene in p3, I do hope to see more PDA and a non skippable date, as it was hinted at during Remake.
 
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Ryeleigh

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Rye
For me, I couldn't tell you how incompatible Cloud and Tifa are (or Cloud and Aerith for that matter). The reason I like CT more is because of their shared backstory and the reveals in the life stream scene.

But even looking at the compilation as a whole, I think we are lacking scenes of them being happy together as a couple. And the games have already given scenes of CA being happy in a couple-like context. There's the rooftop walk, the wall-market section, the dream-date.

With CT, there's the constant angst, the push-pull created by Cloud's alienation and memory issues. There's the physically intimate moments and the shyness. But when do we see them just be happy together? I don't know what that would look like. If you take away the drama, what's left?
I think the devs have shown that in Re-Trilogy pretty well, though? I'm not sure if I still remember all the instances but there's Cloud relentlessly flirting with Tifa as soon as he gets back to her after the first bombing. For example, going around Sector 7, their talk in Cloud's room, the train tunnel, the Costa del Sol gym quest (which was a big OUCH right after Aerith's fashion quest), the frog quest, etc.

I also think that the best way the devs have shown CT's compatibility is how Tifa respects Cloud's boundaries. It's honestly very obvious when compared with the other girls. It's also hilarious because I think Cloud wants Tifa all over his boundaries, lmao.

In contrast, Cloud was still pretty standoffish and huffy with Aerith in the rooftop walk and the wall-market section so I can't say they were "happy". Aerith, maybe? Cloud, not so much. And even in Rebirth, he still gets that way with her when she's pushing their dates to be romantic. Which is why I keep saying that their most romantic moments are, ironically, when they're friends.

Not sure if this reply answered anything, though?
 

Hellenic

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Hellenic
For me, I couldn't tell you how incompatible Cloud and Tifa are (or Cloud and Aerith for that matter). The reason I like CT more is because of their shared backstory and the reveals in the life stream scene.

But even looking at the compilation as a whole, I think we are lacking scenes of them being happy together as a couple. And the games have already given scenes of CA being happy in a couple-like context. There's the rooftop walk, the wall-market section, the dream-date.

With CT, there's the constant angst, the push-pull created by Cloud's alienation and memory issues. There's the physically intimate moments and the shyness. But when do we see them just be happy together? I don't know what that would look like. If you take away the drama, what's left?
They do lack some actual chill time between each other, which is why i do hope they can fulfill that date night they promised to each other in Remake. Perhaps in Wutai if we get some fun times there. Not sure if there are any other places where we could fit in something like this anymore though.

There's also all the teasing from Andrea wanting Tifa on stage and even Cloud suggesting she could be on stage sometime so i'd love to get some actual followup to all of this finally in the third game, but we'll see i guess.
 
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