LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

[Madame Mayor]

Because Materia Jesus needs a boobtacular antichrist who does no right.

If this Tifa is the one who really exists then she at least needs a whip.

And on that thought, time for bed.

 

[Eerie]

Mmh, doesn't some book with AC outright states that Cloud is Tifa's ideal man anyway? I can't remember which, but I remember asking that once in the first LTD XD And I was replied that XD

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

I believe most of them 'debunked' Tifa/Zack after Tifa's scathing statement ("I hate you!") to Zack in Last Order, which is apparently canon.

LO isn't canon, but that line shows up again in Crisis Core anyway, which is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6TqyvPhB2R4#t=37s

Because Materia Jesus needs a boobtacular antichrist who does no right.

If this Tifa is the one who really exists then she at least needs a whip.

And on that thought, time for bed.

Time for somethin'.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I feel gud about myself after that avatar and title change.

 

[Zee]

Once I get home I think I will change my avvy right along with you, Tina.

 

[Celes Chere]

That's it. I'm getting a Zidane/Garnet Avie. They must be honored for the Crack Pairing they are.

 

[Madame Mayor]

That's it. I'm getting a Zidane/Garnet Avie. They must be honored for the Crack Pairing they are.

Have fun with your crack pairings.

So was that the point where we call it a troll and move on?

 

[Dashell]

I need a list of all Cloti information from the 10th Anniversary Ultimania... I don't see any on the main page really, was there "feelings for each other" anywhere in there?

 

[crack]

How the hell is TFC getting so many poor representations of Cleriths?

Honestly, I might as well be proving Clack is canon if this person honestly thinks that Cloud romping around a flowerfield = his love for Aerith.

 

[Celes Chere]

How the hell is TFC getting so many poor representations of Cleriths?

Honestly, I might as well be proving Clack is canon if this person honestly thinks that Cloud romping around a flowerfield = his love for Aerith.

I already tried that.

She said that Clack sounded gross.

 

[crack]

I already tried that.

She said that Clack sounded gross.

No, no. She may think Clack sounds gross, but she can't deny it. After all, if she's pointing out the fact that Cloud being in a flower field represents that he loves Aerith, then it obviously means that Cloud gets a boner just from using Zack's sword.

See how that makes it romantic?

 

[Ryushikaze]

Oh joy. Nond just tried the 'Amano only draws canon pairs' canard again!

I love it when they try that lie. It means I get to post the desfail with all the Amano arts of people who by that argument are canon pairs.
So, you know the thread about Sora being a furry? At least he's not humping a fourleg, not like Cloud is.

 

[Isabella]

Didn't Amano make those drawings as concept art, early in the process?

 

[Ryushikaze]

Yes. And it's not like his actual 'I'm the actual designer for this game' art is bloody canon, either. Nameless hero, anyone? Edgar and Celes?
I want to know where Guy's speargun is in FF2, dammit.

 

[Winter]

Most of the Amano art is intentionally romantic. But it's old and blah blah CxA is not canon, I know, but as far as I recall it was completely intended to portray them as a couple.

I fucking love Amano's art. /off topic


also that theory.... I can't even remember what I was going for. I took some meds last night and I was pretty fucking tired. I am rereading them trying to figure out what exactly I was talking about, but... I can't put a finger on it.

Someday when I'm feeling less lazy I'll just type up all of my feelings about Cloud and Tifa's childhood.

 

[Isabella]

If it's something along the lines of, "Tifa didn't truly love Cloud until they were adults," I'd probably agree with it, at least to an extent. I think Cloud and Tifa had mad crushes on each other as kids/teens. But infatuation isn't love. Hell, you can crush on the guy in the Starbucks drive-thru and not even know his name. Love requires familiarity, spending time with each other and understanding each other's strengths and weaknesses. That's why I don't think they truly loved each other until later. But it's also why I have real trouble seeing LOVE between Cloud and Aerith. Attraction, chemistry, sure. But two weeks' time simply isn't long enough for a real love to develop, IMO.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Most of the Amano art is intentionally romantic. But it's old and blah blah CxA is not canon, I know, but as far as I recall it was completely intended to portray them as a couple.

The C/A stuff, or in general? Because I think the C/A stuff is supposed to be 'fantastic' but not necessarily romantic, much like a lot of his D art. There's art just like his C/A stuff with D and a woman (and D and a man) but there's not supposed to be any romance in it. Well, not from D, anyways. Everyone has romance towards D. Even people who want him dead.

I fucking love Amano's art. /off topic

Ditto. I own a couple of his books and want more.

also that theory.... I can't even remember what I was going for. I took some meds last night and I was pretty fucking tired. I am rereading them trying to figure out what exactly I was talking about, but... I can't put a finger on it.

Someday when I'm feeling less lazy I'll just type up all of my feelings about Cloud and Tifa's childhood.

Take your time.

 

[Dashell]

I firmly believe every Clerith has been a troll and that every Clerith has been impersonating another REAL Clerith. I know FFG wouldn't sign up on TFC. Nond seems to be impersonating her... although I'm not sure I did send the link out on youtube, you never know.

 

[Isabella]

Nond isn't Cali? She's the only one I know who still uses the commercials as proof.

 

[crack]

I don't think Nond is Cali, a troll, or a person pretending to be one... her buddies list include another member from the forum who goes to the CxA Forum, the source of where she's getting all her 'evidence.' So, I would have to guess that it's a Clerith (and probably a long time poster at the CxA Forum), but not intentionally a troll or one pretending to troll.

 

[Dashell]

Nond isn't Cali? She's the only one I know who still uses the commercials as proof.

FFG still does and no Nond isn't Cali unless Cali is using a proxy. And Nond isn't USING a proxy so...

 

[Vendel]

The sheer amount of absurdity being spouted by cleriths since that translation stinks of them desperately trying to convince themselves (or each other) they are still following the "one true romance" of FFVII.

It is quite the amazing display to see them convince themselves the new info is completely meaningless.

And anyone who says the FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania doesn't talk about Cloud and Tifa's relationship is obviously not looking for the right things.

 

[Dashell]

You know that if it showed Aerith and Cloud and NOT Cloud and Tifa, then it'd be a big deal.

And anyone who says the FFVII 10th Anniversary Ultimania doesn't talk about Cloud and Tifa's relationship is obviously not looking for the right things.

So.. what does it say, I'm too lazy to look

 

[Dashell]

Specifically I need to know if the Highwind scene is mentioned at all. I mean there's this one

She ventured into Lifestream together with Cloud. Amidst the course of him trying to ascertain his memories, they became aware of the thoughts/feelings which each other was holding.

The HW scene they talk about the Lifestream and what they felt there...

 

[Isabella]

With the support of former allies and Tifa, an important woman to him and now also part of his family, Cloud regains the courage to move forward.

Only a Clerith would see this line as irrelevant. Funny they single Tifa out, when the movie was all about his relationship with Aerith.