LTD, round 3: This time, we settle it with Jello Wrestling

[The Twilight Mexican]

FFS, this isn't even amusing anymore!

Well, Que, really now, other than the unparalleled access to the developers that the interviews -- as well as comprehensive details on all gameplay secrets -- that the interviews from each Ultimania demonstrate, what reason do we have to believe that Studio BentStuff has acquired the developers' intentions or the materials (artwork, early scripts, in-company files on characters and plot elements, etc.) required to write about the story as though an authority on it?

Despite including those very things at times, there's absolutely no reason to believe it.

As well, because Studio BentStuff determined its presentation, the short story at the back of FFVIII's Ultimania may as well have not been written by Kazushige Nojima. Hell, for all we know, it was written by someone at SB with that name, and not necessarily the same Kazushige Nojima who wrote FFVIII's script.

 

[Dashell]

INORITE?

and you must be on your cell, it shouldn't have taken you 14 minutes to write that

EDIT:
Fate, are you ever going to respond or just lurk?

 

[Ryushikaze]

I now refuse to believe that the Clone Wars TV series counts, because there's nothing to prove he had anything to do with the episodes or treat them as valid. His statements otherwise and his name in each episode are MEANINGLESS unless I get a triplicate signed affidavit.

 

[Fate]

EDIT:
Fate, are you ever going to respond or just lurk?

Lurk?

edit: okay, sorry. I'll go back to lurking till I have something substantial to say.

 

[Ryushikaze]

To Lurk is to just read a forum without responding. Which you have now stopped doing by responding. Not by posting much, but by posting.

Now post something substantial.

 

[Isabella]

INORITE?

and you must be on your cell, it shouldn't have taken you 14 minutes to write that

EDIT:
Fate, are you ever going to respond or just lurk?

Stalker Q is in da house

 

[Winter]

So is Zack.
And Aerith is in Tifa too.

This just got weird.

every time Cloud and Tifa have sex

it's actually a giant orgy

with two Aeriths


SOMEHOW

 

[Loxetta]

Don't forget about Sephiroth's refusal to be a memory. And if Zack's in Cloud, Angeal is too.

Cloti = most interesting sex life ever.

 

[Vendel]

I am just wondering if the "Snow/Serah and

Spoiler: FFXIII spoiler?

Fang/Vanalle

are parallels to C/A" have started yet.

Because that would be just like SE to put more clerith hints in FFXIII.

 

[Dashell]

They've been going on for a while now...

 

[Winter]

Don't forget about Sephiroth's refusal to be a memory. And if Zack's in Cloud, Angeal is too.

Cloti = most interesting sex life ever.

Ahaha every time they get naked all of these dead people show up in their bed. I'm just imagining them all horrified

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE SEX IN PEACE

I am just wondering if the "Snow/Serah and

Spoiler: FFXIII spoiler?

Fang/Vanalle

are parallels to C/A" have started yet.

Haha I bet they have. Snow/Serah is understandable I guess, but Fang/Vanille would be Cloti if anything.

Although Fang's way more badass than Cloud.

 

[Dashell]

My left big toe is more badass than Cloud

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Vendel: Go check out my new thread at The Northern Crater for FFXIII parallel analysis as it relates -- or doesn't -- to the LTD. I'd link you, but, as Que guessed, I'm on my cell.

How long did it take me to write this one, Visitor Q?

 

[Dashell]

Only 3 minutes

also:
http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Northern_Crater/index.php?showtopic=891

 

[Loxetta]

Ahaha every time they get naked all of these dead people show up in their bed. I'm just imaging them all horrified

WHY CAN'T WE HAVE SEX IN PEACE

Tifa: We're gonna need a bigger bed.

Cloud: And made from indestructible material and fireproofed. ...Just in case.

DeadPeople:

 

[Ryushikaze]

Cloti: Owning the only bed on Gaia that was originally intended as a fallout shelter.

And

Spoiler: FFXIII couples spoiler

Fang/Vanille is like C/A and C/T only in that it's a lesbian pairing like those two.

Snow/Serah... doesn't have the Cloud analogue in it, and tells us Aerith is Cloud's sister, and Tifa is the one who wants to meet Aerith again.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Only 3 minutes

also:
http://z14.invisionfree.com/The_Northern_Crater/index.php?showtopic=891

Thank you, sexy stalker lady.

 

[Strangelove]

Fang is fucking awesome but I don't want to hear any more about FFXIII.

well apparently some people don't consider the Ultimanias canon because they weren't written directly by the creators.

I'll keep this in mind for future reference. If I want people to take any supplementary material seriously, I should write it myself.

Then everyone will have to believe it, no matter what it says, because I wrote it

Except what I get Benny Matsuyama to write for me. Benny's cool, so his stuff counts too.

How long did it take me to write this one, Visitor Q?

Are you making Japanese cinema references?

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Fang is fucking awesome but I don't want to hear any more about FFXIII.

In the ending,

Spoiler

stuff happens!

I'll keep this in mind for future reference. If I want people to take any supplementary material seriously, I should write it myself.

Then everyone will have to believe it, no matter what it says, because I wrote it

I don't think that even that will work with some people. There are quite a few who steadfastly refuse to accept anything that wasn't in the original work.

And when it comes to defending an interpretation of a piece of art, there's certainly a valid argument to be made for doing that. However, when discussing canon, there is no valid argument to be made to that effect.

Except what I get Benny Matsuyama to write for me. Benny's cool, so his stuff counts too.

Unless it's Maiden.

Are you making Japanese cinema references?

And what if I am?

 

[Strangelove]

In the ending,

Spoiler

stuff happens!

Spoiler

I THOUGHT NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN. FUCK YOU TRES.

I don't think that even that will work with some people. There are quite a few who steadfastly refuse to accept anything that wasn't in the original work.

And when it comes to defending an interpretation of a piece of art, there's certainly a valid argument to be made for doing that. However, when discussing canon, there is no valid argument to be made to that effect.

To be honest, I think the reason most of the people doing that kind of thing rarely stems from them being a bunch of New Critics

Unless it's Maiden.

No, Maiden's a pretty cool guy. He writes stuff and is not afraid of canon.

And what if I am?

It makes about as much sense as wherever I was going

I just noticed the 'Pension Shiroi Koibito' at the beginning. So I guess that word means 'guest house' as well now

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

'Tifa is like a mother, a comrade, and a pretty cool guest house.'

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Spoiler

I THOUGHT NOTHING WOULD HAPPEN. FUCK YOU TRES.

I laugh at your misery.

To be honest, I think the reason most of the people doing that kind of thing rarely stems from them being a bunch of New Critics

Oh, I don't disagree. But when it's done on that basis, it at least has legitimate philosophical ground.

It just rarely, rarely happens on that basis. Instead, it's typically, "I don't like that, so I don't accept it."

No, Maiden's a pretty cool guy. He writes stuff and is not afraid of canon.

Well, when you put it like that, I guess I can't argue with it.

It makes about as much sense as wherever I was going

XD They do some weird shit over there.

 

[Vendel]

I don't think that even that will work with some people. There are quite a few who steadfastly refuse to accept anything that wasn't in the original work.

Yeah I have run into a couple of these tards recently. One on youtube made the comment that FFVII is gospel and nothing else should even be acknowledged as existing.

On a different forum I got someone saying that every single thing that has been put out since is a retcon.

I personally think they are both just shippers with varying levels of delusion.

 

[Eerie]

I personally think they are both just shippers with varying levels of delusion.

I just think they're butthurt

Which is fine by me since I'm a mean CloTi and I love that. XD

 

[Ryushikaze]

New Critics categorically piss me off.
Not because new criticism is totally invalid, but because they think it's the only valid form of criticism out there. Authorial intent and external context matter, numbnuts.