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Roger
He/him
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- Minato
Yeah, that' what I'm saying. Being a mindslave for a period long enough to be referred to as an ERA, until you have to be put down by own subordinates, you'd think a guy wouldn't have such a bubbly personality. Keep in mind, this went down like, yesterday from his point of view.
Super Mario
IT'S A ME!
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- Jesse McCree. I feel like a New Man
I've still got that sinking feeling about Bee...
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The Bee cannot die. He's beaten SASGAY and defied Akatsuki with a fake tentacle. He will make it through. Make no mistake!!!
Rumpelstiltskin
Banned
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Nah I have a sneaking suspicion that he may survive the fight between Naruto and Tobi but Sasuke will end up being the one to deliver the final blow. Would be apt to force Naruto to go against Sasuke for real.
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Well, it's unclear how aware he was of himself during the period of his manupilation, since we don't really know much about the nature of the Genjutsu used. Plus, in their inner worlds, they tend to reflect their inner selves more directly. Even though the Mizukage died recently from his view, his relationship with Isobu was quite significant, and being in the presence of the other Biju, and being told about Son by Naruto does give reason to be significantly upbeat.
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Xinda
Memento Mori
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After such an epic chapter like last week, Kishimoto manages to reel everything back in to the Konoha shinobi and touch on an awesome set of emotions. Naruto being cocky in the face of insurmountable danger, Kakashi and Gai getting older, Hinata's love, Chouji's outsider comradery, Shika's helpful planning, Kiba's friendly rivalry, Shino's reasonless motivation, Sai's awkward friendship, Ino's caring faith, Tenten's concerned commitment, Lee's (over) enthusiasm, and Sakura's unifying devotion - All juxtaposed against Sasuke's disconnected loneliness.
I'm absolutely filled with joy and dread all at once.
Ffffeeeeeeeelllllllliiiiinnnnggggssssssss.
(Also- secret sqee that Hinata's feelings got the longest section) :3
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I'm absolutely filled with joy and dread all at once.
Ffffeeeeeeeelllllllliiiiinnnnggggssssssss.
(Also- secret sqee that Hinata's feelings got the longest section) :3
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Sheva Alomar
I'm Alive and on Fire
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- Adri, Sir Integra, Fiona, Sango
Jumping back into reading after a while and I still hate Hinata.
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I am highly curious as to why.
(Also, I noticed that Neji doesn't have a quote in this week's chapter).
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I found this over on Narutoforums, it's Part 2 of SJAlpha's interview with Masashi Kishimoto: http://i.imgur.com/plOWK.jpg (I've actually been contemplating signing up for SJAlpha lately, since they're actually up-to-date on their web version).
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Rumpelstiltskin
Banned
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Im agreement with Adri on this one, throughout the entire series I always seen Hinata as a kind of sympathy case. She loves Naruto yet is too shy to tell him anything, even after the battle with Pain she finds it hard to tell him what she feels.
It just seems like her character development is turning more into a weird stalkerish vibe, at no point has Naruto ever shown romantic feelings towards her, she knows of his blatant claims of love for Sakura when they were young yet she still holds on to this idea that she will be with him. Although kinda soppy and romantic the comment in this weeks manga just pushed me off the edge "Next time I'll be next to you, holding your hand. Walking with you. Wait for me!" To me this is just reallllllly weird and creepy.
It just seems like her character development is turning more into a weird stalkerish vibe, at no point has Naruto ever shown romantic feelings towards her, she knows of his blatant claims of love for Sakura when they were young yet she still holds on to this idea that she will be with him. Although kinda soppy and romantic the comment in this weeks manga just pushed me off the edge "Next time I'll be next to you, holding your hand. Walking with you. Wait for me!" To me this is just reallllllly weird and creepy.
Sheva Alomar
I'm Alive and on Fire
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- Adri, Sir Integra, Fiona, Sango
I feel exactly as Scott feels. She's pathetic, and for that matter, not a very established romantic option for Naruto. One day they just kind of decided to make her obsessed with Naruto.
Rumpelstiltskin
Banned
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Dana Scully
Special Agent
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To be fair, none of the non-adult romances in Naruto are very well written.
I mean didn't Hinata actually yell at Naruto that she loved him during the Pain fight? And then it was NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN because that's totally not a big deal or anything. And I'm not even gonna start on the butchering that happens to Sakura's character whenever Sasuke or Naruto is involved.
Honestly I think in both Sakura and Hinata's cases their characters are being constantly defined by their romantic interests which pisses me the fuck off because I think it seriously detracts from their actual strong points.
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I mean didn't Hinata actually yell at Naruto that she loved him during the Pain fight? And then it was NEVER MENTIONED AGAIN because that's totally not a big deal or anything. And I'm not even gonna start on the butchering that happens to Sakura's character whenever Sasuke or Naruto is involved.
Honestly I think in both Sakura and Hinata's cases their characters are being constantly defined by their romantic interests which pisses me the fuck off because I think it seriously detracts from their actual strong points.
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Elisa Maza
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I regret nothing.
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It's intersting that you see her character that way, because I see her really differently (plus she's long been one of my favorite characters in the series).
Including the anime's embellishment mini-arcs (the kid flashback stuff), it actually paints a rather different image of Hinata than the rather cliche moments she has. She's the natural heir to the Hyuuga, which puts her in a position where she's expected to outperform everyone else, in addition to being treated royally, and being forcably distanced herself from everyone else. The anime gets into Hinata being curious about her not being able to interact with Naruto really early on, and noticing that he's different, but seeing a positive side of him that everyone else ignores. That helps to give a background on why she's the one who seems to notice positive qualities about him before he manages to properly prove himself to everyone else, and give reason to why she's always whispering encouragement, or like the recent chapter where she trusts him because of the look in his eyes.
The other arc that ties into this is the fact that she's living in the shadow of what her father expects of her. As Neji attempts to fight against his own destiny, that shadow of expectation that her father expects her to exceed only grows larger. Then, Hanabi (who, like Neji's view of the main House, sees Hinata as a goal to surpass), manages to best her for leadership of the clan. She's shunned for not living up to others' expectations in a less direct, but similiar way to Naruto's wish for acknowledgement, which (aside from her crush) is a lot of why she adopts Naruto's Nindo as her own - it's a methodology that she wants to be like, but hasn't been able to achieve. Since Naruto's gone from a bit of a goof up into a hero and sufficiently surpassed her now too, she still has the same goal of what she wants to achieve, but there's a slight difference. Unlike Neji & Hanabi, she sees Naruto as someone that she doesn't want to surpass, but just wants to catch up to (which is also what is being referred to in her quote this chapter). It's all part of the arc of her attempting to outgrow the shadow of expectations that she's constantly been under, but in her own way, and also get close to Naruto at the same time.
From the romantic side, I've never really thought of her as stalkerish, just super introverted. She's not using her Byakugan to spy on him, or obsessing over little things that he does in a weird way like the early Sasuke-crushes did. She's only hiding and looking at him from behind things becuase she's SO easily emotionally overwhelmed, and can't find the courage to directly approach him. The few times she does, she continually tries to talk to him and have normal (even single word) conversations with him, like during the Chuunin exams, but just can't get her own emotions under control. She even faints when going to say goodbye to him. While this is cut back when she matures in Shippuden, she's still very held back. The only moments that the two of them really share anything together are usually when things get dangerous, and she is put into a place where she's forced to (potentially permanently) either deny or embrace her emotions - and she always embraces them, and overcomes her nervousness and fights against Yahiko/Pain. Since Naruto's really still new to the concept of even his own parents loving him, let alone the admiration that he's receiving, I think it'd be odd for him to directly confront Hinata about it (especially given the whole Sakura/Sasuke false revelation).Whenever they DO talk, they're not in the real presence of a larger group setting, but also not really alone, and it seems to be the only time that they seem to address their emotions at all. To me that's the biggest reason why Naruto doesn't respond about the Pain battle until they're both briefly alone in combat again. This is indirectly touched on when he confronts his inner Darkness, because he's still caught off guard by people asking for his autograph, let alone the idea that Hinata loves him.
In a lot of ways, it reminds me of the recent portrayl of Kushina & Minato's early relationship, but with the roles reversed. Minato's always around a lot, half-spying on her, but rather than not talking, Kushina's always being overly aggressive towards him and cutting him off. They don't really have a real conversation with each other, let alone about their feelings until they're caught up into a dangerous / life-threatening scenario.
Anyhow, tl;dr - she's just introverted, not a stalker, and wants to follow Naruto's Nindo as much as she wants to date him.
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Including the anime's embellishment mini-arcs (the kid flashback stuff), it actually paints a rather different image of Hinata than the rather cliche moments she has. She's the natural heir to the Hyuuga, which puts her in a position where she's expected to outperform everyone else, in addition to being treated royally, and being forcably distanced herself from everyone else. The anime gets into Hinata being curious about her not being able to interact with Naruto really early on, and noticing that he's different, but seeing a positive side of him that everyone else ignores. That helps to give a background on why she's the one who seems to notice positive qualities about him before he manages to properly prove himself to everyone else, and give reason to why she's always whispering encouragement, or like the recent chapter where she trusts him because of the look in his eyes.
The other arc that ties into this is the fact that she's living in the shadow of what her father expects of her. As Neji attempts to fight against his own destiny, that shadow of expectation that her father expects her to exceed only grows larger. Then, Hanabi (who, like Neji's view of the main House, sees Hinata as a goal to surpass), manages to best her for leadership of the clan. She's shunned for not living up to others' expectations in a less direct, but similiar way to Naruto's wish for acknowledgement, which (aside from her crush) is a lot of why she adopts Naruto's Nindo as her own - it's a methodology that she wants to be like, but hasn't been able to achieve. Since Naruto's gone from a bit of a goof up into a hero and sufficiently surpassed her now too, she still has the same goal of what she wants to achieve, but there's a slight difference. Unlike Neji & Hanabi, she sees Naruto as someone that she doesn't want to surpass, but just wants to catch up to (which is also what is being referred to in her quote this chapter). It's all part of the arc of her attempting to outgrow the shadow of expectations that she's constantly been under, but in her own way, and also get close to Naruto at the same time.
From the romantic side, I've never really thought of her as stalkerish, just super introverted. She's not using her Byakugan to spy on him, or obsessing over little things that he does in a weird way like the early Sasuke-crushes did. She's only hiding and looking at him from behind things becuase she's SO easily emotionally overwhelmed, and can't find the courage to directly approach him. The few times she does, she continually tries to talk to him and have normal (even single word) conversations with him, like during the Chuunin exams, but just can't get her own emotions under control. She even faints when going to say goodbye to him. While this is cut back when she matures in Shippuden, she's still very held back. The only moments that the two of them really share anything together are usually when things get dangerous, and she is put into a place where she's forced to (potentially permanently) either deny or embrace her emotions - and she always embraces them, and overcomes her nervousness and fights against Yahiko/Pain. Since Naruto's really still new to the concept of even his own parents loving him, let alone the admiration that he's receiving, I think it'd be odd for him to directly confront Hinata about it (especially given the whole Sakura/Sasuke false revelation).Whenever they DO talk, they're not in the real presence of a larger group setting, but also not really alone, and it seems to be the only time that they seem to address their emotions at all. To me that's the biggest reason why Naruto doesn't respond about the Pain battle until they're both briefly alone in combat again. This is indirectly touched on when he confronts his inner Darkness, because he's still caught off guard by people asking for his autograph, let alone the idea that Hinata loves him.
In a lot of ways, it reminds me of the recent portrayl of Kushina & Minato's early relationship, but with the roles reversed. Minato's always around a lot, half-spying on her, but rather than not talking, Kushina's always being overly aggressive towards him and cutting him off. They don't really have a real conversation with each other, let alone about their feelings until they're caught up into a dangerous / life-threatening scenario.
Anyhow, tl;dr - she's just introverted, not a stalker, and wants to follow Naruto's Nindo as much as she wants to date him.
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Alex Strife
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I hear there's Hinata on this episode? *Screams*
Be right back, off to read.
EDIT: X-Soldier summed it up very nicely. Also, I think it's also important to note how Hinata's fight is always against herself, more than it is against others. She has to surpass herself, basically. She has no confidence in anything she does... except for her relationship with Naruto.
What I mean here is that she's never portrayed as confident, yet you see she has unweavering faith on her future with Naruto. In this chapter you actually see her STATE that she will walk next to him. That is relevant, because it shows how Hinata would be able to "release her potential" (and I'm not just speaking of her as a shinobi) only if she's with Naruto. I can picture her being a bit more open, confident, and capable, if she was with Naruto in a romantic way, since to her that would be the proof that, if she puts her heart into whatever thing, she can do it.
Be right back, off to read.
EDIT: X-Soldier summed it up very nicely. Also, I think it's also important to note how Hinata's fight is always against herself, more than it is against others. She has to surpass herself, basically. She has no confidence in anything she does... except for her relationship with Naruto.
What I mean here is that she's never portrayed as confident, yet you see she has unweavering faith on her future with Naruto. In this chapter you actually see her STATE that she will walk next to him. That is relevant, because it shows how Hinata would be able to "release her potential" (and I'm not just speaking of her as a shinobi) only if she's with Naruto. I can picture her being a bit more open, confident, and capable, if she was with Naruto in a romantic way, since to her that would be the proof that, if she puts her heart into whatever thing, she can do it.
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Quick inquiry - has anyone else started watching the anime again as of the last 5-6 weeks?
It being back on the non-filler track has been a big motivator for me, because - like with the Ultimate Ninja Storm games - I do really like the voice acting, and (most of the time) the animation. Mostly, I enjoy getting to see certain sections that I've read in the manga actually in action. I also wanted to bring it up because Kisame's death is probably gonna happen in the next 2 weeks (I'd be SERIOUSLY surprised if it didn't air by the day before UNS:Generations is released). This also means that we'll get to see his flashback (which I've been anticipating for a really long time), as well as the manipulated Yagura as the Mizukage.
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It being back on the non-filler track has been a big motivator for me, because - like with the Ultimate Ninja Storm games - I do really like the voice acting, and (most of the time) the animation. Mostly, I enjoy getting to see certain sections that I've read in the manga actually in action. I also wanted to bring it up because Kisame's death is probably gonna happen in the next 2 weeks (I'd be SERIOUSLY surprised if it didn't air by the day before UNS:Generations is released). This also means that we'll get to see his flashback (which I've been anticipating for a really long time), as well as the manipulated Yagura as the Mizukage.
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Alex Strife
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I have been watching the anime, yeah.
What do you think about the whole Minato-Kushina story in the anime? I think those episodes are some of the most beautiful episodes in the whole of Naruto.
What do you think about the whole Minato-Kushina story in the anime? I think those episodes are some of the most beautiful episodes in the whole of Naruto.
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Zealkin
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Jumping in after reading this weeks chapter.
I'm fine with Hinata's personality, and I have to admit I will be extremely pissed off if Kishimoto just built up her entire infatuation only for it to be dismissed, i realllllyy hope it is directly addressed.
But until then Kushina and Minato are probably the BEST coupling I've seen in the show.
Btw i know they gave up their souls in a sense to seal the fox, but are they just in limbo now or what?
I'm fine with Hinata's personality, and I have to admit I will be extremely pissed off if Kishimoto just built up her entire infatuation only for it to be dismissed, i realllllyy hope it is directly addressed.
But until then Kushina and Minato are probably the BEST coupling I've seen in the show.
Btw i know they gave up their souls in a sense to seal the fox, but are they just in limbo now or what?
Theozilla
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Well, Minato's soul is presumably sealed in the same place that 1st, 2nd, and 3rd Hokage's souls are sealed as well (along with Orochimaru's "soul arms" and Kurama's Yin chakra): inside the stomach of the death god/shinigami from the Dead Demon Consuming Seal, apparently locked in ocked in combat within its stomach for all eternity. (I do wonder if the sealing of Kurama's Yin chakra holds any significance to reforming the Ten-Tails).
Kushina on the other hand did not have to sacrifice her soul, she just sealed part of her chakra into Naruto (along with Minato's) and then died normally. So her soul is presumably in whatever form of the afterlife there is in the Naruto-verse.
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http://mangastream.com/content/jump
No more Naruto or other SJ series from Mangastream. Don't go lookin' there this Wed.
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No more Naruto or other SJ series from Mangastream. Don't go lookin' there this Wed.
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Kai Schulen
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GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
I hate going to mangafox for scanalations. :<
...at least they're still doing Fairy Tail for now.
I hate going to mangafox for scanalations. :<
...at least they're still doing Fairy Tail for now.
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Zealkin
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i still can go on manga reader but i liked manga streams format :/