NEW TRAILER: State of Play May 2019

[pxp]

I agree on using as many different accents as possible. On top of other characteristics, this sets apart the characters even more. Cloud and Tifa should speak in the same accent, however.

What about Yuffie? Australian or even New Zealandish?

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To bring this conversation back to the actual trailer...

The madman has done it!

...at least part 1... ...of 2.

I don't want to know how many videos I'll be producing after E3 xD

Schuweeet!! Will be settling down to this later this evening! Thanks @Vyzzuvazzadth

 

[donkeyjack]

Good looks, Vyzz.

 

[Ariga]

I agree on using as many different accents as possible. On top of other characteristics, this sets apart the characters even more. Cloud and Tifa should speak in the same accent, however.

What about Yuffie? Australian or even New Zealandish?

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To bring this conversation back to the actual trailer...

The madman has done it!

...at least part 1... ...of 2.

I don't want to know how many videos I'll be producing after E3 xD

Awesome video, Vyzzuvazzadth!

 

[Mother]

What about Yuffie? Australian or even New Zealandish?

Omg can you imagine if the first encounter with Yuffie sounded like this???

 

[fancy]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

 

[cold_spirit]

To bring this conversation back to the actual trailer...

The madman has done it!

...at least part 1... ...of 2.

I don't want to know how many videos I'll be producing after E3 xD

Amazing work. Thorough, clear, and never lingers on one topic for too long. I really appreciate your use of red lines along geometry to illustrate your points. Thought I’d just check out the first few minutes but ended up sitting down for the whole thing.

 

[Vyzzuvazzadth]

Omg can you imagine if the first encounter with Yuffie sounded like this???

That would be AWESOME! (beautiful voice, btw )

Amazing work. Thorough, clear, and never lingers on one topic for too long. I really appreciate your use of red lines along geometry to illustrate your points. Thought I’d just check out the first few minutes but ended up sitting down for the whole thing.

Thanks! I try to make my points as clear as possible and visual markers help a lot. Glad you enjoyed it.

 

[Shademp]

All hail the analysis hero, Vyzzuvazzadth! As always V delivers on multiple fresh observations that almost no other person would ever commit to making. *applauds*

I still feel uncertain of whether or not the bomb in the teaser trailer is from Mako Reactor #1 or from the Sector 7 pillar event, primarily due to the concrete the bomb is placed on seemingly(?) not matching up with the surface textures of the pressure regulator in the reactor. Another possibility though is that after Guard Scorpion blows up the pressure regulator, the bomb is then set on a concrete surface that rained down from the ceiling after one of Guard Scorpion's missile barrages (or from the explosion following the tail laser).


If FFVIIR goes with using a wild variety of accents, I hope they try to aim for some local consistency, giving us distinctive accents for the people of Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon, Mideel, Chocobo Farm etc. It would be a nice example of world building that we've yet to see in the FFVII-verse. Sure, Dirge of Cerberus in particular had NPCs speak in many different accents but you never knew where the accent came from.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Yes, that would be good, Shade.

 

[Roger]

All hail the analysis hero, Vyzzuvazzadth! As always V delivers on multiple fresh observations that almost no other person would ever commit to making. *applauds*

I still feel uncertain of whether or not the bomb in the teaser trailer is from Mako Reactor #1 or from the Sector 7 pillar event, primarily due to the concrete the bomb is placed on seemingly(?) not matching up with the surface textures of the pressure regulator in the reactor. Another possibility though is that after Guard Scorpion blows up the pressure regulator, the bomb is then set on a concrete surface that rained down from the ceiling after one of Guard Scorpion's missile barrages (or from the explosion following the tail laser).

Still think it's the one Jessie plants when they are in the tunnel just after the Mako Reactor 1 explosion.

 

[Ite]

@B unfffff

 

[Vyzzuvazzadth]

I still feel uncertain of whether or not the bomb in the teaser trailer is from Mako Reactor #1 or from the Sector 7 pillar event, primarily due to the concrete the bomb is placed on seemingly(?) not matching up with the surface textures of the pressure regulator in the reactor. Another possibility though is that after Guard Scorpion blows up the pressure regulator, the bomb is then set on a concrete surface that rained down from the ceiling after one of Guard Scorpion's missile barrages (or from the explosion following the tail laser).

Still think it's the one Jessie plants when they are in the tunnel just after the Mako Reactor 1 explosion.

Due to the lack of concrete evidence, those are still viable possibilities. However, when trying to keep things simple and looking at what's presented, I think my conclusion has the most merit.

• The red lighting in the bomb shot suggests fire burning right behind the contraption the bomb is planted onto. This fits the pressure regulator the best in my opinion, even when comparing the surface texture with the rest of the pressure regulator device, though it's hard to tell due to the motion blur during the camera swipe when the tail laser makes its way to the regulator.
• Neither the Sector 7 plate nor the collapsed tunnel Jessie bombs her way through contain any sort of fire or red light source.
• As far as I understand, Reno doesn't plant a bomb on the sector 7 pillar control panel but rather activates the already in place self-destruct function.
• As shown in my analysis, the small device in front of the regulator valve does look like the timed C4 bomb in the close-up shot.

The collapsing ceiling, however, could be the result from Guard Scorpion's missile barrage. That's a possibility I could support.

 

[Shademp]

Regardless of which bomb it is we are seeing in the trailer, I'd just like to expand on the Sector 7 pillar scenario.

In the original game, it is decidedly a self-destruct mechanism already in place that causes the pillar to collapse. Described as a time bomb, yes, but still very much a self-destruct function.

{BARRET}
“DAMN! It's a time bomb!”

{CLOUD}
“…It's not a normal time bomb.”

Tseng
“That's right.
You'll have a hard time disarming that one.”
“It'll blow the second some stupid jerk
touches it.”

Tseng
“Ha ha ha……”
“Only a Shinra Executive can set up or disarm
the Emergency Plate Release System.”

However the Compilation has implied a slightly different scenario. In Episode Denzel, Arkham says the following as he prepares to leave the Sector 7 plate after he's heard what Shinra is about to do:

“You’re still here, sir? The Turks are already making their move. They’re nearly done planting the bombs. My colleagues have organised some transportation.”

Denzel had heard from his father about this organisation that belonged to the Shinra. All their dirty work was done by the Turks.

What did he mean that the Turks had planted the bombs? Are the Turks the Avalanche? Just when Denzel was wondering about what they were talking about, he felt his father’s gaze and looked up.

This is why some of us are expecting a potential change to the scenario. There is the possibility of course that maybe we'll see a combo of an already in-place self-destruct bomb but aided with additional explosives planted by the Turks. It's a tiny nuance but one I'm curious to see how it plays out in FFVIIR.

 

[Mayo Master]

That's a great video, Vyzzuvazzadth, thank you for that!

Your observations bring out how much there has been attention to the details in the remaking of FFVII. It all suggests that everything is re-created with great care, and that makes me very optimistic about how the game will turn out.
For one thing, very nice spotting of the C4 package on the bomb - I like the idea of the tag on the explosives being what allows Shinra to backtrack where Avalanche is hiding.

 

[Lex]

Omg can you imagine if the first encounter with Yuffie sounded like this???

....this needs to be a comedy video for the channel i am SCREAMING

 

[Vyzzuvazzadth]

@Shademp I've watched Episode Denzel once and quite some time ago. I didn't remember that bit. Thanks for bringing it up! Your assessment of it being a mix of a system in place and additional bombs planted by the Turks seems plausible. Thinking further, it makes more sense that way. Just activating the Emergency Release System wouldn't look like a terrorist attack by Avalanche. However, lace that with additional bombs (it even looks like that in the original FMV with those multiple explosions) and the cover story is much more believable.

...or the "Emergency Release System" is code for "we planted bombs all around the place, suckahs!"

With all that being said, the sector 7 plate incident cutscene could very well show a time bomb this time around. Though I still think that particular shot in the State of Play trailer is not from such a scene, mainly due to the red lighting. Unless of course several bombs don't go off at the same time and one or 2 other bombs have already gone off when the bomb in the trailer gets shown.

Still, I think we're over-analyzing this, again

 

[Ite]

Its an Emergency Plate Release function though. That’s why they needed to bring that milktoast Reeve in on the conspiracy.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

It's hard to see how the blame for the Sector 7 collapse was going to be pinned on Avalanche, if a whole bunch of people knew the Turks had planted the bombs. Plus, it's really hard to believe the Compilation Turks would have anything to do with the plate drop. I'm just going to insert my favourite quote here again: "Reno was freakin' hardcore during the events of Final Fantasy VII. He crushed a whole city, full of puppies, babies and everything, under a gigantic steel plate and was all like "Yeah, whatever. Fuck it. Oh my, are those crumpets?" Sadly though, he is a bitch in Advent Children." (Uncyclopedia). So anyway, what I'm saying is, if they aim for too much continuity with the Compilation FFVIIR will end up with a plot that makes no sense at all. My guess is they'll ignore the Compilation and stick with the original.

 

[Vyzzuvazzadth]

My guess is they'll ignore the Compilation and stick with the original.

That's my hope. I'm ok with references to compilation material, but changing the FFVII canon to fit compilation canon would be harder to digest.

 

[Makoeyes987]

It's hard to see how the blame for the Sector 7 collapse was going to be pinned on Avalanche, if a whole bunch of people knew the Turks had planted the bombs.

That's not unique to the Compilation though...

The train conductor at the Sector 7 Train Station somehow heard about the plan to crush Sector 7's slums with the plate and he resigns himself to dying by staying at the train station til the very end. Other NPCs in the vicinity as well. Because Don Corneo blabbed about it. It's why Tifa tried to infiltrate Don Corneo's mansion/brothel and the Turks wanted to eliminate him on disc 2. Don Corneo heard about the intent to crush Sector 7 due to him being an informant for Shinra, and blabbed about it to those close to him. It's why the weird man Barret interrogated dropped Don Corneo's name as the informant, Tifa tried to get more info from Corneo directly, and Cloud and Aerith had to infiltrate his home to rescue her.

So even in the OG, the news about the operation slipped to people and the operation was compromised. And it wouldn't matter because on it's face it sounds conspiratorial and insane. The populace at large weren't ever gonna believe Shinra would do such a thing.

Plus, it's really hard to believe the Compilation Turks would have anything to do with the plate drop. I'm just going to insert my favourite quote here again: "Reno was freakin' hardcore during the events of Final Fantasy VII. He crushed a whole city, full of puppies, babies and everything, under a gigantic steel plate and was all like "Yeah, whatever. Fuck it. Oh my, are those crumpets?" Sadly though, he is a bitch in Advent Children." (Uncyclopedia). So anyway, what I'm saying is, if they aim for too much continuity with the Compilation FFVIIR will end up with a plot that makes no sense at all. My guess is they'll ignore the Compilation and stick with the original.

The Turks of Before Crisis are no longer part of Turks by FFVII. They resigned and went into hiding so they aren't even a factor in the first place.

 

[Ite]

I don’t know if Corneo blabbed before Tifa interrogates him. She seems pretty surprised by what she learns.

 

[Makoeyes987]

I don’t know if Corneo blabbed before Tifa interrogates him. She seems pretty surprised by what she learns.

He most certainly did. Corneo was the leak, and he had to be the one because he was the only person outside of Shinra who knew about the plot in the first place.

And it was because of his loose lips that the Turks were after his life in Wutai. Reno even says so.

Corneo
...The Turks!

Reno
You knew this was gonna happen ever since you leaked that secret.
We're going to take care of you... personally.

Corneo
DAMMIT! Then they're all goin' with me!

Corneo becomes Shinra's target because he foolishly blabbed the plan regarding Sector 7's destruction and was a loose end that had to be cut off.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

The Turks of Before Crisis are no longer part of Turks by FFVII. They resigned and went into hiding so they aren't even a factor in the first place.

She didn't mean those guys. She meant Reno and Rude as they were presented in the Compilation.

 

[trash panda]

New Zealand accent is one of my all-time favorites. In fact, Rachel House's voice narrates a lot of my inner monologue, which is really cool. She's really cool. I want some NZ in this game. Just go ahead hire Rachel House as the voice of any major character and I'll be absolutely fine with that.

 

[Tashasaurous]

My guess is they'll ignore the Compilation and stick with the original.

There goes my hope that they would use the Compilation for the Remake and I love the Compilation. As much as I'm trying to see if the Remake will be good or not, I'm edging closer in just ignoring it and sticking to the Compilation despite it having ended with Crisis Core.