NEW TRAILER: State of Play May 2019

[LicoriceAllsorts]

As soon as I made my post, the same thought occurred to me, Roger. Villainous upper class British accents, on the other hand, never grow old.

 

[FFShinra]

Oh I definitely would rather they didn't as well, I just wonder if they will try to be "topical".

As for British accents, maybe. But only if its well done a la FFXII. I don't want Rufus sounding like Liquid Snake.

 

[ChipNoir]

Mmm, I'm still sticking to my hope they actually get someone eloquent for ShinRa Sr. The man is many things, but inarticulate isn't one of them.

I'm holding out for John de Lancie .

 

[FFShinra]

Q or Barclay would work well.

Not that I am one to wish for celebrity voice acting, but for old man Shinra himself, I would not mind John Noble voicing him. He has that cold educated menace thing down pat.

 

[Mother]

Not that I am one to wish for celebrity voice acting, but for old man Shinra himself, I would not mind John Noble voicing him. He has that cold educated menace thing down pat.

John Noble could be Cait Sith and he'd be great. The man's a master.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Q or Barclay would work well.

Not that I am one to wish for celebrity voice acting, but for old man Shinra himself, I would not mind John Noble voicing him. He has that cold educated menace thing down pat.

While on the subject of actors voicing characters who never had voice acting until now in the Remake, wonder if they'll hire SARGE who voiced Ormi in FFX-2 to voice Heidegger. I had always imagined Heidegger's voice to be like Ormi, especially when it comes to the, as Rufus would call it, "Stupid Horse Laugh".

 

[FFShinra]

Sarge doesn't seem to have done anything since 2012 though. I like the general idea of the voice though. Plenty of VAs who can do a similar voice too. Gregg Berger, Keith Szarabajka (actually, I'd not mind Keith as Cid if I'm being honest), etc.

 

[Jairus]

Q or Barclay would work well.

Not that I am one to wish for celebrity voice acting, but for old man Shinra himself, I would not mind John Noble voicing him. He has that cold educated menace thing down pat.

Dwight Schulz (Barclay) would be a cool choice, especially since he's already done some VA for SE in FFX (Maechen, Mika, etc.). I was surprised when I first realized it was him, as a Trekkie I really like that link between the two series. And de Lancie would be just epic, although if by some miracle they could get Patrick Stewart as President Shinra that would be unbelievable and just absolutely perfect imo.

As far as non-Trek actors, I think Cary-Hiroyuki Tagawa (Shang Tsung from Mortal Kombat) would be excellent as Hojo. Having played Shang Tsung so effectively, he knows how to do sinister and would make Hojo a much darker and less campy villian, which I think would be better and would make him a much better nemesis for Vincent.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

A part of me wishes they'd get the voice actors from Team 4Star.

 

[Roger]

Graham Stark was great as President Shinra yeah.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Good news for Steve Burton dislikes and extremely bad news for Steve Burton lovers.

He removed his "Voice of Cloud Strife" tag from his Twitter account which confirms he will no longer voice Cloud, and has been unexpectedly removed from Final Fantasy VII Remake and like Hayden as Kairi, was not informed until the last minute a la New Trailer.

Definitely avoiding the Remake now and have to avoid other future titles of Cloud's appearance since Steve has been fired from his nearly two decade role as Cloud which is completely unfair. So angry!

 

[Ite]

Well hold on now. Do you have evidence that Burton and his agent weren’t informed of the change before the trailer dropped? Are you certain the re-casting was confirmed before the trailer dropped? What was on the table? What was the conversation? Are you sure Steve didn’t ask too high a price? Are you sure he didn’t walk?

In the end it always boils down to money. Studio says $10. Agent says $20. Studio says $10 or we walk. Agent says “you’re bluffing.” Studio makes a trailer testing a new actor. Agent says $15. Studio says sorry bye. This happens in showbiz all the time.

 

[ChipNoir]

Good news for Steve Burton dislikes and extremely bad news for Steve Burton lovers.

He removed his "Voice of Cloud Strife" tag from his Twitter account which confirms he will no longer voice Cloud, and has been unexpectedly removed from Final Fantasy VII Remake and like Hayden as Kairi, was not informed until the last minute a la New Trailer.

Definitely avoiding the Remake now and have to avoid other future titles of Cloud's appearance since Steve has been fired from his nearly two decade role as Cloud which is completely unfair. So angry!

...You have very strange standards.

 

[Girl Named Captain]

I doubt this is the actual reason (it probably boils down to contracts and money, as Mr. Ite said above), but there is no way Steve Burton would have been able to pull this performance off, so I am pretty relieved, honestly. Voicing him in cameo/supporting character roles in other games is one thing, but remake Cloud's VA has to carry three full-sized games on the strength of their performance. The amount and variety of dialogue for the character is going to be leagues beyond anything Steve ever had to contend with. What's more, it's the full character, not just the grumpy/sullen Cloud that he is often boiled down to in guest character slots. I never really saw any good evidence that Steve was going to be able to deliver the performance that will require.

I've always been fond of his Cloud voice too, because the textural quality of his voice suits the character well, but at some point you just have to admit this is a whole different kind of project than even something like Advent Children.

 

[Makoeyes987]

I dunno about writing off the entire game, but I am very disappointed at the lack of Steve in the role.

He's been a great voice for him who's improved significantly over the 10+ years he's been doing him. I mean, one only has to listen to his most recent work as Cloud in Dissidia NT and previous to that, Crisis Core. Steve certainly had a wide emotional range in portraying Cloud beyond being sullen or grumpy.

But alas, S-E had other plans (and monetary concerns), so it is what it is. One can only hope Sephiroth gets as good a replacement as Cloud did.

 

[Tetsujin]

He's been a great voice for him who's improved significantly over the 10+ years he's been doing him. I mean, one only has to listen to his most recent work as Cloud in Dissidia NT and previous to that, Crisis Core.

...but that was his worst performance as Cloud...

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

...but that was his worst performance as Cloud...

I'd have said Dissidia 012.

 

[Tetsujin]

Never played it, so I can't judge that one

But yeah I think Crisis Core was the one game where they just absolutely needed to cast a different dude, Burton just can't sound like a 14-year old.


Also, that scream at the end was kind of pathetic.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Well hold on now. Do you have evidence that Burton and his agent weren’t informed of the change before the trailer dropped? Are you certain the re-casting was confirmed before the trailer dropped? What was on the table? What was the conversation? Are you sure Steve didn’t ask too high a price? Are you sure he didn’t walk?

In the end it always boils down to money. Studio says $10. Agent says $20. Studio says $10 or we walk. Agent says “you’re bluffing.” Studio makes a trailer testing a new actor. Agent says $15. Studio says sorry bye. This happens in showbiz all the time.

Good point on that, but it still sucks none the less.

...You have very strange standards.

Well, I just prefer Steve's voice as Cloud. They could've at least told everyone straight away that he's no longer the voice of Cloud instead of leaving it for two years and then just drop it like a bomb.

I dunno about writing off the entire game, but I am very disappointed at the lack of Steve in the role.

He's been a great voice for him who's improved significantly over the 10+ years he's been doing him. I mean, one only has to listen to his most recent work as Cloud in Dissidia NT and previous to that, Crisis Core. Steve certainly had a wide emotional range in portraying Cloud beyond being sullen or grumpy.

But alas, S-E had other plans (and monetary concerns), so it is what it is.

Meanwhile, Cloud's Japanese voice actor stays the same while the English Casting dudes decided, "Nope, this a remake, people, and remakes always mean NEW actors. So sorry, fans; but we want newer fans to appreciate newer actors and not look into the past." or some other excuse.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Well the Japanese have a higher regard for seiyuu compared to here in the US. Being the voice of a character carries with it a significant level of pride and responsibility with the role. They're better paid and respected for their work, so yeah. A character's voice doesn't usually change unless a serious reason occurs.

Voice acting isn't given that level of respect and it's unfortunate. Granted, I again wouldn't write off the entire damn game but it is understandable to be disappointed. All I can say is that I hope the new voice for Cloud does a damn good job. They honestly sound pretty good. It's Sephiroth who I'm more concerned about, tbh.

Also, that scream at the end was kind of pathetic.

I thought it was perfect, so to each their own

I'd have said Dissidia 012.

The voice acting for the original Dissidia games are extremely hit and miss... With a lot of misses. I enjoy NT a lot more simply because it doesn't sound so fucking weird.

The voice actor for Kuja explained how he literally was given no information whatsoever about his character, visuals to what actions were going on in scene, or real direction for his voice work, except "sound effeminate." It was very shoddy and minimal. The voice actors who knew their characters or at least a semblance of the story could shine better, while others were kinda confused and awkward.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Well the Japanese have a higher regard for seiyuu compared to here in the US. Being the voice of a character carries with it a significant level of pride and responsibility with the role. They're better paid and respected for their work, so yeah. A character's voice doesn't usually change unless a serious reason occurs.

Voice acting isn't given that level of respect and it's unfortunate. Granted, I again wouldn't write off the entire damn game but it is understandable to be disappointed. All I can say is that I hope the new voice for Cloud does a damn good job. They honestly sound pretty good. It's Sephiroth who I'm more concerned about, tbh..

Or just no reason at all and all in for the money.

Yeah, but most trailers are part of the scenes that remain mostly the same with a few exceptions, and given Cloud's new voice in the new trailer, plus Steve Burton not mentioning a thing and instead just simply takes down his "Voice of Cloud Strife" tag on his account without saying anything at all and possibly just leaving Square Enix to fully announce the voice change in four days time just screams this being written off the entire game.

And if this happened, what about Cloud's future scenes in future DLC of Dissidia NT?

Will they have to redo all of his cutscenes in the game and make it as though Steve was never involved in the first place like how VIZ redid the entire English Dubbing of the Original Sailor Moon Anime(which I'm still miffed about by the way) and have the new actor redo all of Cloud's cutscenes from the original scenes to the newer DLC ones?

With Sephiroth, that's another worry, and I'm now doubting they'll ever ask and/or allow Quinton Flynn to reprise his role as Reno since that guy had actually been looking forward in voicing Reno again via his Twitter Account a few years back, and he'd been voicing Lea/Axel in the KH franchise since that redhead is based on the redheaded Turk.

Plus, like I said; the Placeholder thing sounded like a complete waste of time.

 

[ForceStealer]

Also, that scream at the end was kind of pathetic.

Kinda, but the Japanese scream was freakin weird. It didn't sound...human. But Burton's scream of "Sephiroth!" in the reactor was quite good.

And Tres is right, Dissidia 012 was his worst. The directing in general for that game seemed miserable.

Dissidias notwithstanding, I did generally find that he improved with each subsequent performance. AC - DC - CC - ACC scenes. And, as Girl Named Captain stated, I always thought his vocal quality fit, at least. But I'm not so married to it that I'm distraught over losing it. There are many people who specialize in voice acting that can likely do a great job.

I'm more bummed that it seems to mean certain other voices that I liked have changed. As I've mentioned previously, I was looking forward to seeing what Beau Billingslea would do with a meatier Barret portrayal. And I did always like Newbern's Sephiroth. None of that is enough to dissuade me from being excited about and buying the game, of course.

 

[Makoeyes987]

Kinda, but the Japanese scream was freakin weird. It didn't sound...human. But Burton's scream of "Sephiroth!" in the reactor was quite good.

Yeah, the Japanese scream was pretty crazy. Like, it carried so much grief, anguish, and despair that it surpassed anything I'd expect to even hear in a person. For better or worst, at least Burton sounded more.... human?

I'm more bummed that it seems to mean certain other voices that I liked have changed. As I've mentioned previously, I was looking forward to seeing what Beau Billingslea would do with a meatier Barret portrayal. And I did always like Newbern's Sephiroth. None of that is enough to dissuade me from being excited about and buying the game, of course.

Same, but it will probably be enough for me to probably just play the Japanese language track instead.

Can't go wrong there, tbh. Although I prefer not having to rely on subs to understand what I'm hearing but if the voice of a certain character or characters is bad enough, I'll just skip a dub entirely. Rare as though that may be.

 

[Tashasaurous]

Kinda, but the Japanese scream was freakin weird. It didn't sound...human. But Burton's scream of "Sephiroth!" in the reactor was quite good.

And Tres is right, Dissidia 012 was his worst. The directing in general for that game seemed miserable.

I wouldn't call Dissidia 012 as the worst game, but it may be passed as one of the worst prequels ever made and not just because of the voice direction. Laguna was rather annoying than he was in FFVIII, Tidus was...meh, Warrior of Light and Kain were just cold and mean, wasn't fond of Lightning's direction either, and the gameplay was questionable.

The only things that I liked were Cloud's determination to try and protect Tifa, and Kefka's reaction when Vaan had taken Terra.

Dissidias notwithstanding, I did generally find that he improved with each subsequent performance. AC - DC - CC - ACC scenes. And, as Girl Named Captain stated, I always thought his vocal quality fit, at least. But I'm not so married to it that I'm distraught over losing it. There are many people who specialize in voice acting that can likely do a great job.

I'm more bummed that it seems to mean certain other voices that I liked have changed. As I've mentioned previously, I was looking forward to seeing what Beau Billingslea would do with a meatier Barret portrayal. And I did always like Newbern's Sephiroth. None of that is enough to dissuade me from being excited about and buying the game, of course.

I was looking forward in most of the voice actors returning with the exceptions of Aerith(which was understanding but still disappointment enough), Nanaki/Red XIII(since he only said six words in total since he began to have a voice and that was only for AC), and Hojo since number one, his Japanese Actor has passed away(R.I.P), and number two, his English actor hated voicing him(THAT I agree since I hate that scientist with a vengeance). I was also looking forward in Quinton Flynn as Reno again.

But that's not happening now.

Yeah, the Japanese scream was pretty crazy. Like, it carried so much grief, anguish, and despair that it surpassed anything I'd expect to even hear in a person. For better or worst, at least Burton sounded more.... human?

At least Cloud was born a human and is human. But yeah, Burton's portrayal as Cloud in Crisis Core is much better and I thought he did okay as a fourteen/sixteen year old. Newbern's portrayal in Crisis Core was excellent too, especially when he sounded more human there.

 

[Girl Named Captain]

I'll probably play in English, but for the sake of those who won't, I really hope they've ironed some things out since XV...I absolutely love the XV Japanese cast, so I played it subbed the whole time, but it was a real pain...lots of battle dialogue was untranslated (not just combat noises, it was often whole sentences) and the battle dialogue popped up in the same place at the bottom of the screen as regular dialogue, so it was really inconvenient to constantly look down there while I was fighting. Just give 'em speech bubbles or something, geez!