New year, New LTD thread. (Round 5)

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Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
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Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
And yet, any time people try and head in the direction of story analysis and deeper understanding, people being acting obstructionist and internet tough guy.
1. What?

2. Do you actually know what the definition of an internet tough guy is? They are acting like it doesn't effect/bother them, yes, but that doesn't mean they are actively threatening other members with violence. They don't give a shit because honestly, the ltd is nothing to get worked up over. Politics, religion, views on yaoi, certainly, but the love life of some fictional dude? That is possibly one of the most trivial of trivial things.

and being obstructionist assumes that people are actually getting to a point with their rambling, which tends to be unlikely. :awesome:

3. No seriously, I have no idea what you were trying to say in that sentence.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
1. What?

2. Do you actually know what the definition of an internet tough guy is? They are acting like it doesn't effect/bother them, yes, but that doesn't mean they are actively threatening other members with violence.

You don't have to threaten violence to come off as playing the 'tough guy/ gal' routine.

They don't give a shit because honestly, the ltd is nothing to get worked up over. Politics, religion, views on yaoi, certainly, but the love life of some fictional dude? That is possibly one of the most trivial of trivial things.

They 'don't give a shit' yet seem to care about this thread far more than anyone else.

and being obstructionist assumes that people are actually getting to a point with their rambling, which tends to be unlikely. :awesome:

Even if they aren't, not letting them attempt to get to it is still being obstructionist.

3. No seriously, I have no idea what you were trying to say in that sentence.

In short 'Even when people actually try and discuss the story, even when they are being civil, several people insist on coming into the thread and making a stink.'
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
You don't have to threaten violence to come off as playing the 'tough guy/ gal' routine.
i am pretty sure every definition includes either threatening violence or saying that they are SO COOL or whatever, neither of which i have seen winter or zee do. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=internet tough guy

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Internet_Tough_Guy point being that what you construe as an internet tough guy or gal has very little to do with what people know to actually be an internet tough guy or gal.

hell, even internet asshole fits better than what you are proclaiming those two to be.

They 'don't give a shit' yet seem to care about this thread far more than anyone else.
oh yeah, clearly. i never see them in any other threads than this one ever! my god those losers really need to get a life.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
AKA
Tim, Ryu
i am pretty sure every definition includes either threatening violence or saying that they are SO COOL or whatever, neither of which i have seen winter or zee do. http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=internet tough guy

http://encyclopediadramatica.com/Internet_Tough_Guy point being that what you construe as an internet tough guy or gal has very little to do with what people know to actually be an internet tough guy or gal.

hell, even internet asshole fits better than what you are proclaiming those two to be.

Fine, internet asshole. The posturing routine's the same, even if the words are different.

oh yeah, clearly. i never see them in any other threads than this one ever! my god those losers really need to get a life.

Hi, not what I said. I said they cared about this thread more than other people. Not that they don't care about anything else.
 

Alessa Gillespie

a letter to my future self
AKA
Sansa Stark, Sweet Bro, Feferi, tentacleTherapist, Nin, Aki, Catwoman, Shinjiro Aragaki, Terezi, Princess Bubblegum
Hi, not what I said. I said they cared about this thread more than other people. Not that they don't care about anything else.
so the only way they could show they couldn't care less about cloud's love life is to be totally ambivalent? but then no one would have anything to rant about except vendel and his youtube peeps :(
 

Joker

We have come to terms
AKA
Godot
So here's an idea.

If we're going to applaud Tres and swear by his admittedly excellent post...maybe we should, y'know, actually do what it's saying.


Okay, people: No more discussing each other, no more discussing the relevance of the thread, no more discussing whether the thread is needed. It's queer and it's here (despite how many of us are shaking our heads at that, myself included), and it's time to move on.

If no one has anything much to say about the actual topic, it will die naturally on its own, as any other thread on this forum does. If you don't like the topic or don't give a shit about it, ignore the thread. Of course everyone has an equal right to post in the thread, but that applies only up until someone begins derailing the thread or infringing on others' ability to peacefully discuss the topic if they wish (you can usually tell if you're doing this because people will begin letting you know).

So, to summarize: Discuss the topic if you like it, ignore the thread if you don't.

This means no spamfest of humorous images or unrelated chitchat just to derail it, and it also means no spamfest of humorous images or unrelated unrelated chitchat just to keep it afloat.

As well, this means no endless discussion of what other people do or have done at this site, whether concerning the topic or not, and it also means no endless discussion of what other people do or have done at other sites (CxA, YouTube, etc.), whether concerning the topic or not.

I think that covers all the loopholes, and even if you find one that I missed, exploiting it to circumvent the spirit of this post will make me a unhappy panda, which will then lead to you being a sad one. Or at least one wearing some infraction flair.

Pretty sick of the shit that's been going on in here (as sick of it as I am of the LTD, in fact), and I'm saying it's stopping now. Following the recent bullshit with DLPB and then this, the lack of respect going around in here lately has reached fucking retarded levels. It's at the point now where someone actually suggested programming a measure into the site's code that would allow a user to be blocked from a thread if they can't be respectful to other members in that thread or restrain themselves from fucking it up.

I personally don't like this idea. I think it ignores the actual problem. I think you should be able to access everything or nothing, and that if you can't show respect in one area of the site, this speaks to an overall problem with how you're using the whole site. Feel free to disagree with me about that, but that's how I feel.

Now, I'm not saying you guys have to respect me or what I'm saying. You can write my name on notebook paper (that's Glenn Morrow, with two "n"s, thank you), shit on it, piss on it, light it on fire, and put the fire out by pissing on it again if you want. I don't care. I'm not even saying you guys have to respect each other. But you guys will either choose to treat other respectfully (different from actually respecting someone) or you will respect something else around here.

Not me, no. The buttons I can click on in your profile, though, yes.

For what it's worth, if anything, I like every last one of you. That being the case, I'm not interested in letting any of you infringe upon a pleasant forum atmosphere for any of the rest of you.

If any other mods or an admin disagrees with how I'm handling this, feel free to tell me. I'll still feel that it needed to be said, but I'm happy to discuss it with you.

And if anyone does actually give a shit about that tangent that cropped up, pretend the "D" in the "LTD" part of this thread's title stands for "Discussion." There's no debate going on here, hasn't been for a while, and we all know it. Pointing it out, though, doesn't change a thing.


ON TOPIC: Just because they "talk about their feelings" doesn't mean that Cloud's actually putting the moves on Tifa and actively attempting to pursue a relationship with her.

That would involve admitting that he's into her, after all. AGAIN.
 
ON TOPIC: Just because they "talk about their feelings" doesn't mean that Cloud's actually putting the moves on Tifa and actively attempting to pursue a relationship with her.

That would involve admitting that he's into her, after all. AGAIN.

The feelings have been identified as romantic. Period. So there is no longer room for doubt.
 

Frostwave

lil' rice krispies
AKA
Elizabeth, Selda
If we're going to applaud Tres and swear by his admittedly excellent post...maybe we should, y'know, actually do what it's saying.

Oh shit yes I agree. :salute:

I've been reading this thread off and on while I listen to music. I just might make a playlist for it. =3

Also this thread makes me wanna play pong SO BAD.
 

Joker

We have come to terms
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Godot
The feelings have been identified as romantic. Period. So there is no longer room for doubt.
No, I'm not saying it's not canon. I'm calling bullshit on the execution. It's far too ambiguous and contradictory, beyond the possibility of being intentionally so.
 

looneymoon

they/them
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Rishi
Speaking of taking things way too seriously...

I find it a little amusing that you're basically doing what you accuse Zee/winter/sometimes Aki of doing.

Anyways - just to clarify as to why I decided to butt in in the first place. It's not like I don't know Zee/winter can't speak on their own behalves, but I know that if they decide to do so it's just going to be written off as buttmad Cleriths being buttmad. Even if that maybe true, the other side is acting just as bitchy. And it's a little aggravating seeing no one calling them out on it. It's as if members on this board somehow feel legitimized or superior just because they stand by teh almighty ~canonz~ of FF7. Newsflash people - FF7 canon has been shit since the release of Advent Children.

And because of this attitude I would like to clarify that I am a Cloti shipper. Not that I think it really matters at all, but going by the attitude of this thread I feel as if that random piece of useless trivia would actually make people take these posts more seriously. Which in itself is really, really sad.
 

Dashell

SMILE!
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Sonique, Quexinos, Pinkie Pie, Derpy Hooves
1) The conversation while, admittedly bitchy, was on topic. Or at least 90% more on topic than what this thread usually is. In fact, it was Quex who brought up the Cleris/Cloti smacktalk stuff (and I mean that with NO disrespect to Quex whatsoever. I actually quite like Quex) so I really don't even know what is up with that first sentence. Way to single out bro.
I did? :(

I didn't mean to... can you point out where I did this? I honestly don't remember and can't find it.

also lol @ ED being used as a source. That like never happens.
 
No, I'm not saying it's not canon. I'm calling bullshit on the execution. It's far too ambiguous and contradictory, beyond the possibility of being intentionally so.

Are we talking about FFVII being badly written? Because that's another can of worms that I'm not sure really goes in this thread because this thread is more about the facts not the interpretation of the game.
 

Joker

We have come to terms
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Godot
Eh, if that's what you want to call it. xD I'm just saying that parts of the way they portray Cloud and Tifa's relationship with each other is very different from the way they show Cloud and Aerith's.

Mostly that it's contradictory if they're saying Cloti is canon. :monster:
 

Celes Chere

Banned
AKA
Noctis
^Like, what is contradictory? Because tbh, I find one Clerith scene in the game that seems romantic. O_o I know that's my opinion, I'm just wondering now. :monster:


EDIT:

FINE I DIDN'T WANT AN ANSWER ANYWAY.

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Zee

wangxian married
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Zee
Cloti doesn't interest me much because Tifa doesn't interest me much. She's hot and she's kinda cool, but she has no real character or deep backstory that I can get involved in - at least, no character or backstory that doesn't center on Cloud. Meanwhile Aerith does have such a story, so I prefer Clerith on account I think Aerith is a better character. That, and I find her flirty, cheerful and upbeat personality a better match for Cloud than Tifa.

/applause

Personality-wise I have no problem with Tifa, but holy crap, she's like the most intentional two dimensional character ever. There's plenty to work with in her story and yet she's treated as nothing more than a plot device for Cloud than an actual character. And that's a shame.

There's aspects of Cloti I like but this is the main reason I fell out of shiplove with them. The compilation and everything just made it worse imo.
 

Max Payne

Banned
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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
Why does it seem like everyone in this goddamn thread has a persecution complex.
 

Max Payne

Banned
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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
I don't appreciate you drawing attention from me by your lack of appreciation.
 

DrakeClawfang

The Wanderer of Time
I don't appreciate you not appreciating my post due to some faulty assumption that I'm drawing attention from yours. For one thing, you assume people pay attention to your posts in the first place.
 

Max Payne

Banned
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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
I don't appreciate you not appreciating my post due to some faulty assumption that I'm drawing attention from yours. For one thing, you assume people pay attention to your posts in the first place.

9000+ thanks and building spits on you little man.

HATERS GONNA HATE.
 

Joker

We have come to terms
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Godot
We now return you to your regularly scheduled love triangle [something that starts with a 'd'].
 

Max Payne

Banned
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Leon S. Kennedy,Terry Bogard, The Dark Knight, Dacon, John Marston, Teal'c
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Cloud and Tifa should move out to the country and live like the bumpkins they are btw
 
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