New year, New LTD thread. (Round 5)

[Dashell]

It IS up to Cloud's behavior, just like the Highwind scene is... doesn't mean there is no canon.

 

[Vendel]

It IS up to Cloud's behavior, just like the Highwind scene is... doesn't mean there is no canon.

Let's play 'spot the difference' Q.

Secret date

At the Gold Saucer, Cloud receives an invitation from one of his companions. Who comes around with the invitation is dependent on Cloud’s behavior.
............
The night before the final battle

Thanks to Tifa, Cloud regains himself, and before the final battle with Sephiroth, without using words, he confirms with her that their feelings match.

Do you see it?

 

[Dashell]

Yeah see you weren't "just asking" before

...
I'm trying to think of a smartass response but I can't come up with anything D:

 

[Vendel]

Yeah see you weren't "just asking" before

You wound me Q. I merely thought of new information after your answer.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I'm sorry do you have something that retcons Dismantled?

The UO, the U10, and the U20. And the CCU.

Where applicable.
All of them have also shown Tifa's date, including in Cloud's profile.

Just stop worrying and accept the they all just happened idea. It's simpler.

 

[Dashell]

Just stop worrying and accept the they all just happened idea. It's simpler.

Actually i DO like this idea, but how could all 4 groups have been the 100th couple?

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Actually i DO like this idea, but how could all 4 groups have been the 100th couple?

cloud has a time-turner

 

[Ryushikaze]

Actually i DO like this idea, but how could all 4 groups have been the 100th couple?

100th per show.
Or may they weren't the 100th couple at all. The amusement park lied to get some audience attendance.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Even were we to play with that idea, they all couldn't have caught Cait Sith stealing the Keystone.

 

[Joker]

Maybe he was just a really bad thief

and totally incorrigible

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Even were we to play with that idea, they all couldn't have caught Cait Sith stealing the Keystone.

i am sure cloud had many zany ideas as to catching him, but they never really seemed to work out

 

[Ryushikaze]

Even were we to play with that idea, they all couldn't have caught Cait Sith stealing the Keystone.

Obviously, that would only happen on the very last date. With Barrett.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Well, Cloud being preoccupied with being the team bicycle would explain why Cait Sith chose that moment to steal the thing, I suppose.

 

[OneWingedDemon]

Aerith's star and Cloud's star are perfect for each other...

Second hand embarrassment on their behalf, seriously, Q.

It's not the word "star" that makes the association here.
It's the longstanding idea of a wish connected to the stars. That, for Cloud, is his desire to be a hero. I'm not talking LTD. This is Cloud's dream.

I'm pretty sure that line wasn't inserted with the intention of going 'HA! LOVE TRIANGLE REFERENCE!" Tifa just happens to be inextricably tied to Cloud's dream.

Cloud:

"Yeah. He says he has a dream. And that he'll keep fighting until he can make it come true."
"Maybe he wished it on a star."

It has a clear tie in to this scene as well:

Cloud
Yeah... At that time I heard you calling me.
You were calling me back from the stream of consciousness in the Lifestream.
After all, I promised. That if anything were to ever happen to you, I would come to help.


Tifa
Cloud...? Do you think the stars can hear us?
Do you think they see how hard we're fighting for them?


Cloud
I dunno... But...
Whether they are or not, we still have to do what we can. And believe in ourselves...
I'll find the answer someday. Right, Tifa?

We have only one crucial scene which harkens to this longstanding desire and that scene is the promise scene with Tifa. It is a moment that is engraved in Cloud's mind for all time and it comes up multiple times in teh game. Obvious reference is obvious

 

[Max Payne]

Dismantled features Aerith's date, yes. So that would make it canon but people question whether or not the book is canon

Thank you for simply answering my question.

 

[Vendel]

Thank you for simply answering my question.

Keep in mind Q thinks Maiden is canon. So, grain of salt.

 

[Max Payne]

She gave me the proper name of the book, that's enough.

 

[tibiquera]

Keep in mind Q thinks Maiden is canon. So, grain of salt.

Not trying to argue, I'm just curious, why would you consider Maiden to not be canon?

 

[Roger]

Hojo being in the Lifestream, Cloud being Aerith's one true love rather Zack, Zack's claim that he actually taught Cloud swordsmanship in the past makes it feel like an alternate story to the Compilation.

 

[ForceStealer]

For more in-depth TLS debate of Maiden. (Warning: it does kinda degenerate into a baby LTD later.)

 

[tibiquera]

Thanks, I'll take a look

 

[Dashell]

Not trying to argue, I'm just curious, why would you consider Maiden to not be canon?

It contradicts with their beliefs

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

It contradicts with their beliefs

There are legitimate reasons to question its canonicity, though.



tibiquera:

For a more in-depth look at the topic of canon as it relates to Maiden and FFVII in general, read this article:

http://thelifestream.net/final-fantasy-vii/7025/ffvii-and-canon-2/

 

[Dashell]

There are legitimate reasons to question its canonicity, though.

if you say so


so... Brady Games profiles... I've heard some people say these aren't official despite the exact profiles being on the FFVII official page... so Brady games profiles.. official, y/n?

 

[Ryushikaze]

if you say so


so... Brady Games profiles... I've heard some people say these aren't official despite the exact profiles being on the FFVII official page... so Brady games profiles.. official, y/n?

Brady Games = Not official. BUT, as they have copied the information from the official page, then they are in agreement with that which is official.

Incidentaly correct, not by fiat.