Perseverance (Jessie/Clessie Club)

[Jessie Rito]

That's nice, did you draw that yourself?

Nah i found it on twitter

 

[Jairus]

Oh ok. Still nice, though. Good find!

 

[Odysseus]

Just now?

You right, you right. We're always crazy! Nice picture btw.

 

[Jairus]

Nah, we're just visionaries. We saw the true early-game ship/best girl before anyone else did, that's all.

 

[Odysseus]

Also, Ody, if our choices don't have an impact on how things happen then what's the point of having them?

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If we can't really refuse the flower and really walk away without it, what's the point of being able to refuse it in the first place? Especially when in the OG, Aerith never forced it on you.

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It removes the ability to simply not obtain the flower, but that was always a dull choice that led nowhere and ultimately robbed the player of any meaningful choices later. You neither gain points for buying the flower nor lose points for refusing it. You basically just make it so nothing happens at all. Guaranteeing Cloud has the flower opens up the possibilities for what he does with it, and since you can still refuse, Aerith's view of Cloud is still negatively impacted. I'm betting she gives you the flower for saving her from the Ghost things, so it's not like she just forces Cloud to take it.

 

[Jairus]

Also, Ody, if our choices don't have an impact on how things happen then what's the point of having them?

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If we can't really refuse the flower and really walk away without it, what's the point of being able to refuse it in the first place? Especially when in the OG, Aerith never forced it on you.

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It removes the ability to simply not obtain the flower, but that was always a dull choice that led nowhere and ultimately robbed the player of any meaningful choices later. You neither gain points for buying the flower nor lose points for refusing it. You basically just make it so nothing happens at all. Guaranteeing Cloud has the flower opens up the possibilities for what he does with it, and since you can still refuse, Aerith's view of Cloud is still negatively impacted. I'm betting she gives you the flower for saving her from the Ghost things, so it's not like she just forces Cloud to take it.

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Dull or not, the choice still should have been ours to make. The OG respected that choice, so the remake should have as well. If they won't give us that respect in one choice we can make, how can we expect them to do it for any of the other choices we'll have in the game? How can we expect to feel as if we're playing a part in how things turn out if what we choose doesn't truly affect things in a very real way?

 

[Jessie Rito]

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Dull or not, the choice still should have been ours to make. The OG respected that choice, so the remake should have as well. If they won't give us that respect in one choice we can make, how can we expect them to do it for any of the other choices we'll have in the game? How can we expect to feel as if we're playing a part in how things turn out if what we choose doesn't truly affect things in a very real way?

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Dull or not, the choice still should have been ours to make. The OG respected that choice, so the remake should have as well. If they won't give us that respect in one choice we can make, how can we expect them to do it for any of the other choices we'll have in the game? How can we expect to feel as if we're playing a part in how things turn out if what we choose doesn't truly affect things in a very real way?

I dont really mind

 

[Odysseus]

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I guess that's true, but I don't really see it as much of a loss. When I got my other friends to play the original, the asshole would just skim the text and accidentally not get the flower, then get mad at me for not warning them. Having the flower is more interesting than not, so whatever.

 

[Jairus]

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I guess that's true, but I don't really see it as much of a loss. When I got my other friends to play the original, the asshole would just skim the text and accidentally not get the flower, then get mad at me for not warning them. Having the flower is more interesting than not, so whatever.

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I'm just hoping they're not using that as a way to force it to be given to Tifa, is all. That choice should be up to us. I don't like any choices or freedom being denied, no matter how small. Especially just to shoehorn in a particular pick and leave a potential new option shafted.

 

[Odysseus]

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Calm down, you have this bad habit of jumping to conclusions. While your dream of giving it to Jessie might not happen, I'm certain that at the very least you will still be able to give it to Marlene. It'll still end up in a cup on the counter either way if I had to guess though.

 

[Jessie Rito]

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I'm just hoping they're not using that as a way to force it to be given to Tifa, is all. That choice should be up to us. I don't like any choices or freedom being denied, no matter how small. Especially just to shoehorn in a particular pick and leave a potential new option shafted.

Well all we can do is wait

 

[Odysseus]

I like how we're all talking in spoilers even though its usually just us three here. Unless... someone is watching...... right now....

I CAN SEE YOU

 

[Jessie Rito]

I like how we're all talking in spoilers even though its usually just us three here. Unless... someone is watching...... right now....

I CAN SEE YOU

We know youre reading thid mwahaha


Here is a bomb ?

 

[Jessie Rito]

Other question... What do you guys think about jessies relationship to biggs and wedge?

 

[Jairus]

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Calm down, you have this bad habit of jumping to conclusions. While your dream of giving it to Jessie might not happen, I'm certain that at the very least you will still be able to give it to Marlene. It'll still end up in a cup on the counter either way if I had to guess though.

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I just don't see how the option wouldn't be brought up when it's right there front of her, and before Tifa and Marlene ever even see it. SE has to know that she'd see it and that, given how they've portrayed her, that she would almost certainly comment about it - which would be a natural lead-in to being able to give it to her. And it doesn't have to affect the larger story at all. It didn't in the OG. It would just be a nice and harmless way to give her something slightly romantic with Cloud that she didn't have before.

And yes.... they're out there... somewhere...

 

[Jessie Rito]

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somebody is probably really pissed that they read this pointless text °3°

 

[Odysseus]

Other question... What do you guys think about jessies relationship to biggs and wedge?

Somehow their relationship is even more poorly established in the original game than their respective relationships with Cloud, so I'm looking forward to seeing how the remake develops it. Just going by the demo, I like the playful banter between Jessie and Biggs. I get the feeling their interactions will be fun. Wedge seems like he's the real heart of the group. I bet everybody likes him.

 

[Jairus]

Jessie is the brains, Biggs is the brawn, Wedge is the heart. At least that's how it seems like it could be, each of them in a role only they could do.

 

[Jessie Rito]

Jessie is the brains, Biggs is the brawn, Wedge is the heart. At least that's how it seems like it could be, each of them in a role only they could do.

I meant towards each other :o


I still kinda could see that pissing off barret is their freetime activity and I dont know why

 

[Odysseus]

In the original, Biggs seemed like he had a bit of a complex with Barret. Like he wanted to be the big shot leader of the group instead of Barret. I'd be interested to see if they develop that.

 

[Jairus]

Yeah, that'd be interesting. He complains about Barret while he's snoring on the train. That'd be funny to see in the remake, especially if Cloud and Jessie share an amused glance while he's doing it.

Oh, and isn't great that the club thread is 14 pages deep now? And here I wondered back when I first made it if it would ever get much traction.

 

[Odysseus]

There aren't many of us here, but those that are just never shut up! It's dedication I tell ya.

 

[Jairus]

Well, hopefully our numbers will grow when the full game hits. That is, if Aerith and Tifa's playability doesn't make everyone forget all about Jessie.

 

[Jessie Rito]

Well, hopefully our numbers will grow when the full game hits. That is, if Aerith and Tifa's playability doesn't make everyone forget all about Jessie.

I dont think they will this time around

 

[Jairus]

I hope you're right. That's one thing she doesn't have that they do.