SPOILERS Saying farewells to Jairus/Trying to make sense of it

[Master Bates]

He has sixteen followers on twitter. Even I have more than that. I wouldn't worry.

This may sound bizarre to you but I don't know how the number of followers influence twitter algorithms? Does twitter even have algorithms? I don't really understand the relevance. I'll just take your word on it. Either way, I really am serious with laying low on fanart hunting for a while.

 

[kathy202]

Maybe Jairus' posts and comments show up more frequently for us because we've recently checked out his Twitter feed due to the discussion here? You know, the ranking algorithms and what not. Just a guess. Though yeah, simply staying away would be one solution to that.

Anyway, I know someone IRL who is borderline obsessive and needs to be right about whatever their current obsession is. Agree with them and they think they've won. They'll come up with more absurd claims next time. Stay neutral and they won't stop making the same point over and over again till your ears fall off. Argue with them, and they'll snap at you and find a million excuses to prove you wrong. Keep it up and they'll play the "I'm the outcast, you're so toxic" card. The closest people to this person who don't know how to deal with this crap have fallen into depression.

I don't think Jairus is as toxic as this other person, or at least I'd like to believe he's not. Either way, I've found that the best thing to do is to not engage, as tempting as it might be to call out their crap. Sometimes I think such people unconsciously bait others into an argument just for the sake of it.

 

[Lex]

Here is the FFVII House thread thing being discussed btw

https://thelifestream.net/forums/threads/jen-the-sarah-saga-and-where-she-went.17745/

I personally find that whole situation morbidly fascinating.

 

[Glaurung]

Here is the FFVII House thread thing being discussed btw

https://thelifestream.net/forums/threads/jen-the-sarah-saga-and-where-she-went.17745/

I personally find that whole situation morbidly fascinating.

I happened to watch that video a year ago or so and yes, I felt exactly the same (and, incidentally, with many other videos from the same author. That guy is good), and I still don't know if I should feel ashamed or not. It's just that, by watching how they ensnared their victims gives you some tips to spot the red flags.

Jairus, and other examples of toxicity, are the reasons why, despite my enthusiasm for FFVII, I've kept my distance and remained more focussed on XV. There are crazies in every single fandom, I know, but when a title is no more a fringe thing and becomes a world-wide, million-selling phenomena, it turns unmanageable in some aspects. It's like changing from your local pub to a macrodisco. Not that you stop loving it, mind you, but you are less prone to mingle with new people, or enter new places to discuss anything.

There's also a limit to all the fanart that I can consume. Ten years ago it was, not exactly scarce, but you had to hunt it down. Now there are such a bajillion artists publishing their thing, and most of them are so good that you are likely to develop Stendhal Syndrome after a while.

 

[crazyrabbits23]

Jairus, and other examples of toxicity, are the reasons why, despite my enthusiasm for FFVII, I've kept my distance and remained more focussed on XV. There are crazies in every single fandom, I know, but when a title is no more a fringe thing and becomes a world-wide, million-selling phenomena, it turns unmanageable in some aspects. It's like changing from your local pub to a macrodisco. Not that you stop loving it, mind you, but you are less prone to mingle with new people, or enter new places to discuss anything.

I've run into enough... interesting fans over the years. When I used to run on the Star Trek forums, one user would get up and post long essay-length responses to posts I'd make every morning for days on end, at around the exact same time each morning. I had a guy try to rally an entire forum against me because I made the mistake of criticizing his plan to take on a corporate entity and "rescue" sets that had already been dismantled from a studio backlot. I've seen enough of them - you deal with it by starving them out. No responses, no acknowledgement, nothing. That's the same kind of mentality I applied to this situation.

Had I known what Jairus was dealing with in his personal life (especially after reading this topic), I probably would have been a lot less flippant in the conversations I had with him. I get the sense that the tacit acknowledgement I gave him early on in some topics just emboldened him to go further and further with his points, which unfortunately had a detrimental effect on others.

 

[Glaurung]

Just read Stark Trek and I knew eaxclty the kind of post you would write Another fandom I'd rather experience alone or with close family members

 

[Wol]

Those people really need to wake up, for their own good. Jesus christ.

 

[ForceStealer]

When I used to run on the Star Trek forums, one user would get up and post long essay-length responses to posts I'd make every morning for days on end, at around the exact same time each morning. I had a guy try to rally an entire forum against me because I made the mistake of criticizing his plan to take on a corporate entity and "rescue" sets that had already been dismantled from a studio backlot.

 

[Kai Schulen]

Okay, I know I haven't been like the most active person on TLS for....well, since I signed up here how many years ago, but having just stumbled across this thread, all I can say is yo, what the fuck. what the fuck?!

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......It's way too early on a Monday (yes, I know there's 30 minutes till it's noon it's ain't noon till the clock hits 12:00) for me to process this. Hell, this is way too early in the week for me to process this. For the sake of self-care, I. I'm. I'm going to take a break, get some food and just resume to my usual status of being a looky-loo lurker and procrastinate on my art and try not to dwell on this too much because this was too much to handle in like one go.

 

[Lex]

OK, I think this thread has run its course now. Closing!