I thînk it was a brilliant idea, officially opening my favorite fandom and video game. The realities of the multi verse, all for our enjoyment. I'm still ecstatic.It's almost like the whole thing was a terrible idea
I thînk it was a brilliant idea, officially opening my favorite fandom and video game. The realities of the multi verse, all for our enjoyment. I'm still ecstatic.It's almost like the whole thing was a terrible idea
I'm withholding judgment until it plays out. With 4 years between these games all we can do is wade through insane theory after insane theory(including my own). In fact I think us being exposed to so much discourse and argumentation over what's really going on makes it feel way worse than what actually might be happening. All the noise from the internet creates more additional perceived convolution than what would be otherwise.
Lol thats actually pretty good
Come on now, the promise scene is the only memory that hasn't been altered by Jenova.
And now I remember it, the devs did say that true Cloud surfaced during Tifa's resolution, as he wanted to comfort her. So case closed lol
To be fair, we also don't see it for his dream about his mum (because the chapter starts while he's dreaming), but we do see that Jenova altered this memory with his outfit.
Well that's a lot of fun, isn't it? That's what I'm here for!wade through insane theory after insane theory
I feel like they can write their way out of this. I figured that Biggs didn't actually die on the pillar but was wounded and fell unconscious. Then he was picked up by other Avalanche members and brought to the orphanage since it was the closest thing he had to a family. Normally he would have succumbed to his injuries, but the defeat of the Whispers led him to recover. Meanwhile, Jessie just straight up died and the Avalanche team took a couple things as mementos. Stuff about Wedge could be handwaved away by your explanation. It seemed like that Whispers are not unlimited in number anyway; maybe they focus on spots where the Planet's course is most likely to be altered.Why specifically is Biggs alive?
Why not Jessie?
Does Jessie glove and bandana mean she is alive, or where they just grabbed in the act of saving Biggs for some reason?
Even if killing the whispers made it so Biggs survived, why did he wake up in a bed in the sector 5 slums?
Zack didn't wake up somewhere completely different when he survived where he normally died. Why didn't Biggs wake up in the sector 7 rubble? Who brought him there?
Why did it take so long for the Whispers to try to kill Wedge again if they wanted him dead? Were they only concerned if he was actively doing something that would alter fate in a big way such as being in the Shinra building for some reason?
Did they leave Biggs alive because they didn't recognize him doing anything that would alter fate in a big way and that's why we see him alive at the end? Were they only concerned with trying to make sure he was dead when he could potentially interfere with fate during the Pillar chapter?
I'm telling ya. If we don't see Zack interacting with people we know to be around, in the present, with our group here... it's going to become more and more clear that is exactly the case.
If we do end up going as far as the Northern Crater, maybe they can reimagine Sephiroth taunting Cloud by now throwing a living Zack at him somehow.
I 100% think that's up to the creators to deliver and tell in a way that resonates with fans. And I 100% think they will.
Hence the big 'Aerith is dead in Zack's timeline' theory, hmm....
I kinda hope that's not the case, although if it's true, I wonder if this then means main timeline Aerith has a better chance of living.
I think he didn't actually die! I admit it would be on of those things that needs explanation, did someone save him? Cait Sith I'm looking at you...
I think Jessie did in fact die, but Biggs might have just fell unconscious.
What was Biggs stated as being instead of mortally wounded?This is supported in the game itself. Jessie is mentioned to have been mortally wounded or some such phrasing. Biggs is a different story.
Yeah, the OG stuff worked wonderful. But I also think every new addition worked wonderfully as well. The dance off in Honey Bee Inn? A+. My wife came running in to watch it and giggled so hard. She loved that scene. Jesse's big adventure? A great little side story that worked perfectly with things. Roche? Excellent.Why, though? The stuff that worked best in Remake was from the original game. What makes you think deviating from that in a big way would be worth the time?
Yeah, the OG stuff worked wonderful. But I also think every new addition worked wonderfully as well. The dance off in Honey Bee Inn? A+. My wife came running in to watch it and giggled so hard. She loved that scene. Jesse's big adventure? A great little side story that worked perfectly with things. Roche? Excellent.
The Whispers?
I specifically did that, I’ll happily concur that I’m not beyond reproach here lol.I just wanted to highlight this difference because so often the people the who aren't into the latter are told they wanted a 100% straight, by-the-numbers remake and to go play the original or Ever Crisis when the rest of that stuff I was completely here for. (Not that you specifically did that.)
I don't know if I totally agree. Firstly, we're definitely see a world expansion within Remake. I mean, characters and Midgar definitely were expanded. But the mythology seems upended, and while I agree to an extent, there's enough embedded in the original about time and memories, and devs' comments about the final compilation installment that I think this is entirely an expansion on the FF7 mythology, more so than "upending" it.The difference between these things is that the first set all expanded the world and universe of FF7. The latter upended it.
They definitely played with expectations on this, and that's a fair criticism. That said, I really do see it as the next installment continuing the saga. I won't tell anyone they're wrong to be disappointed it wasn't a 1:1 remake, that it's not just a glowup of the original. But I wasn't telling folks that in anyway. My entire is comment is that these things (additions) worked in the Remake as much as the original content. This new stuff worked so well that I'm expecting any direction the devs are going in to be worthwhile and solid. I don't want to lose the point of my statements here. I was answering a question as to why I would trust the direction the devs are going in. It's not just a statement about "enjoy the Remake or go play EC."I just wanted to highlight this difference because so often the people the who aren't into the latter are told they wanted a 100% straight, by-the-numbers remake and to go play the original or Ever Crisis when the rest of that stuff I was completely here for.
Ye gods that'll be good. Especially if when the party finally sees Zack in person, it's as a Whisper. That'll be a mindfuck and a half.I kinda hope this is the answer. That he's a whisper, but a Whisper who has gone rogue,
The point of what was being said is that Jenova/Sephiroth don't alter any of Cloud's memories in Remake. Rather, he unconciously uses Jenova's mimetic power to alter the memories himself. Cloud is a willing participant in the lie here, even if he isn't fully aware of it. That's not new for Remake either.
Zack still being dead at this point would be such an intense troll-y red herring I'd have to admire the balls the writers would have to just sell something so deceptively to the audience. Like, that'd be fucked up but also hilarious.