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Makoeyes987

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They had my attention.

Now they have my curiosity. This actually looks fucking good so far. That looked smooth, engaging and a perfect blend of openness, speed and action.

Sega doin' alchemy now?
 

Tashasaurous

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They had my attention.

Now they have my curiosity. This actually looks fucking good so far. That looked smooth, engaging and a perfect blend of openness, speed and action.

Sega doin' alchemy now?

I agree, it looks just as beautiful as the previous trailers last year, and I like how they slightly restyled the logo of the Frontiers title.
 

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I don't understand why it has been so hard to create a 3d Sonic game with the feel of the 2d game, just in the third dimension :P. This trailer looks interesting though.
 

Makoeyes987

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It's difficult because of the amount of processing power necessary to render that much speed, along with designing the size of a level to accommodate said speed. Sonic levels are designed around the dynamics of platforming and in a sense, racing. So it takes double the amount of effort to design a course that is meant to be seen, explored but also zoomed through. Along with managing that speed in all 3 dimensions.
 

Makoeyes987

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This looks incredible. It's the exploration you'd get exploring a massive hub world Adventure style, but with boost mechanics and speed.

What'll be really important is how it feels. From the looks of it, the controls look solid and precise enough to give you enough freedom to explore when you want and go fast when necessary. That's gonna be a big deal.

There were some problems with frame rate and pop-in though. I'm hoping those get ironed out. Figured that would be it's biggest challenge with speed, high texture assets and multiplatform development.
 

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It looks beautiful enough, I like the music and the graphics are impressive, but it has too much of the Zelda: Breath of the Wild vibes in terms of gameplay and open-world like, and given what I've said about the leaks in the previous months, my gut feeling that the
Sonic having amnesia while his friends are dead(given Amy's voice being heard as a ghost) thing is 100% true which will be a Sonic version of the Zelda game back in 2017. I wish Sonic didn't have amnesia and his friends are inside the robots instead of being killed, but it's Ian Flynn's writing for dark stories and Sega going for it due to the IDW comics which I hated the idea of Sonic having amnesia in general. No offense, but it was bad enough Shadow and Chip/Light Gaia had suffered with memory loss. Sorry about my ranting. I hope Sonic doesn't lose his memories in the upcoming game, but it's the most likely scenario that they went through it.
 

Makoeyes987

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So..I just realized this is coming out THIS holiday season. That's... odd.

I thought this teaser was so bare bones because this was still in early/mid development. But if this is coming out in 6 months... this has to be a purposefully held back teaser, right?
 

Makoeyes987

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I will say that boss fight looked awesome.

The normal mobs? Eh... Some cool concepts and animations but the round bubble bots seem weird as does Sonic's animation where he flash steps all over the place to break them.
 

Tashasaurous

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Yeah, I don't think this game is going to sell well at all. From the looks of it, it's going to be a repeat of 06, Lost World and Forces all put together, and the worst part is Sega is expecting this to be much better than the previous games.

Well...They just ruined their chances now.
 

Tashasaurous

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Okay, maybe not THAT bad, but in terms of story...It's pretty much a Sonic version of Breath of the Wild, especially Tails and the others are not there(or if the leaks and my theories are all true, then that's why). Then again, Starfall Islands have ruins everywhere so it's no surprise.
 

Makoeyes987

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I have no faith in Sonic Team

This seems to be the recurring sentiment.

I'm waiting to see what more is left to showcase this month but I can see why some would feel... Unenthused so far. There's potential here. I just hope Sega really didn't just make an empty as fuck world with sparse setting variety, boring looking enemies and very boring music.

They couldn't fumble this.. could they?
 

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I blame the director who did Sonic Colours, Lost World and Forces since he's the one directing this game too. If anything, I'd say it's time to replace him for someone who can actually direct a decent Sonic game, or at least rehire the guy who directed Sonic Unleashed.
 

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I think this game looks incredible lmao

I'm so out of step with fandom these days. They could give this to me as-is and I'd enjoy it. As long as I can get 60fps :D
 

Tashasaurous

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This seems to be the recurring sentiment.

I'm waiting to see what more is left to showcase this month but I can see why some would feel... Unenthused so far. There's potential here. I just hope Sega really didn't just make an empty as fuck world with sparse setting variety, boring looking enemies and very boring music.

They couldn't fumble this.. could they?

Well, rumor has it that it'll appear at the IGN on the tenth which is five days away, and that it could also appear at the Summer Game Fest a day earlier on the 9th. Let's just hope that the boss battle music later on would be epic at least. But given open worlds in games these days, I think they're more for calming and not like in previous games. Aka: Just boring, calm music and nothing that makes it more alive.

Funny enough, you'd think you'd see other animals, like non-Sonic and his friends and people type, in those kind of areas. Or even Chao. Wisps...Not sure if they'll return or not this time.

Breath of the Wild's music didn't have much in it's open world, and in truth, neither did Pokemon Legends: Arceus and that wasn't even a full-on open game.
 

Makoeyes987

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Really hoping the next preview of Sonic Frontiers hits it out the park and shows something really drawdropping and compelling.

I'm not gonna say what's been shown has been abject terrible or whatever. I don't think it's Sonic Forces tier....yet.

But I'm just thinking back to Mania, it's previews and the like, and just... Frontiers is missing the mark for a large scale home console release.

Sonic Team, you gotta do better than this. Mediocre or "good enough" isn't gonna give you your cred back. :monster:

Really hoping they've got more up their sleeve because if they don't, this is not cool.
 
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