Square Enix trademarks Ever Crisis, The First Soldier, and Shinra logo in Japan

eleamaya

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Just sharing prediction from JP fan
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1352105831861350403
I'll copy-paste her thread here:

EC:
1. He thinks the "crisis" part connects to BC & CC.
2. BC & CC both have mainly Zack & the Turks.
3. BC was flip phone game only, CC was PSP only. And both didn't get any remaster or anything.
4. EC is probably a new spin-off with Zack as the MC and more of the Turks in it.

TFS:
1. He thinks there will be "good" and "evil" Sephiroth as two different consciousness.
2. It's because of a part in OTWTAS that said (after he was defeated by Cloud in OG) Sephiroth gave/threw away his "useless" memories to the Planet. Memories when he was "good".
3. From the Lifestream, those memories would be the "good" Sephiroth, he will try to save the "evil" one. By that he will save the new future of the Planet.
4. Which also explained why Sephiroth in R is referring himself as "watashi", but the one in the edge of creation "ore".
 
cold_spirit

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eleamaya said:
3. From the Lifestream, those memories would be the "good" Sephiroth, he will try to save the "evil" one. By that he will save the new future of the Planet.
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An individual being split like this is pretty much Nomura's M.O. at this point (see also: Kingdom Hearts... or uhhh Sephiroth in AC), so I see where they're coming from. Certainly a more elegant theory than anything I've come up with.
 
Odysseus

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eleamaya said:
. He thinks the "crisis" part connects to BC & CC.
2. BC & CC both have mainly Zack & the Turks.
3. BC was flip phone game only, CC was PSP only. And both didn't get any remaster or anything.
4. EC is probably a new spin-off with Zack as the MC and more of the Turks in it.
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All of this kind of disregards the fact that the "Crisis" in those titles refers to the events of the original game. Advent Children easily could have been called "After Crisis" and it would make sense.

What I'm more wondering is what the "Ever" part could refer to.
 
Roger

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eleamaya said:
Just sharing prediction from JP fan
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1352105831861350403
I'll copy-paste her thread here:

EC:
1. He thinks the "crisis" part connects to BC & CC.
2. BC & CC both have mainly Zack & the Turks.
3. BC was flip phone game only, CC was PSP only. And both didn't get any remaster or anything.
4. EC is probably a new spin-off with Zack as the MC and more of the Turks in it.

TFS:
1. He thinks there will be "good" and "evil" Sephiroth as two different consciousness.
2. It's because of a part in OTWTAS that said (after he was defeated by Cloud in OG) Sephiroth gave/threw away his "useless" memories to the Planet. Memories when he was "good".
3. From the Lifestream, those memories would be the "good" Sephiroth, he will try to save the "evil" one. By that he will save the new future of the Planet.
4. Which also explained why Sephiroth in R is referring himself as "watashi", but the one in the edge of creation "ore".
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I really wouldn't consider that an accurate representation of OTWTAS. He focused on his memories of hating Cloud, he was back to a complete being when he appeared in Advent Children, well aware of what he had learned of Jenova's past of travelling the cosmos, thus able to communicate his plan to Cloud. He did not remain reduced to a being that had nothing but his memories of Cloud. And even if he was, that would not somehow make what came before a good Sephiroth. He was already the guy that burned down Nibelheim before he had anything against Cloud personally.
 
Rose_of_Night

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I need to reread OTWTAS. For some reason I was under the impression that he used those discarded memories to shape the remnants ?. Might just be "fantranslation of a fantranslation" weirdness the copy I read had, lmao
 
ultima786

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Rose_of_Night said:
I need to reread OTWTAS. For some reason I was under the impression that he used those discarded memories to shape the remnants ?. Might just be "fantranslation of a fantranslation" weirdness the copy I read had, lmao
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is there an accurate or official translation anywhere?
 
Rose_of_Night

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There's been official english translations for some time, I've seen them listed on bookdepository. I wish importing stuff wasn't so complicated in my country
 
ultima786

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eleamaya said:
Just sharing prediction from JP fan
https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1352105831861350403
I'll copy-paste her thread here:

EC:
1. He thinks the "crisis" part connects to BC & CC.
2. BC & CC both have mainly Zack & the Turks.
3. BC was flip phone game only, CC was PSP only. And both didn't get any remaster or anything.
4. EC is probably a new spin-off with Zack as the MC and more of the Turks in it.

TFS:
1. He thinks there will be "good" and "evil" Sephiroth as two different consciousness.
2. It's because of a part in OTWTAS that said (after he was defeated by Cloud in OG) Sephiroth gave/threw away his "useless" memories to the Planet. Memories when he was "good".
3. From the Lifestream, those memories would be the "good" Sephiroth, he will try to save the "evil" one. By that he will save the new future of the Planet.
4. Which also explained why Sephiroth in R is referring himself as "watashi", but the one in the edge of creation "ore".
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A lot of this is interesting but the part of the “Ore” Sephiroth is especially dumb and contradictory. That Sephiroth snarks, and is self-centered, fights with Cloud, and speaks like an evil deity giving Cloud a choice for something. There is no sense at all that this Sephiroth is “good”.

He may be more whole and more in control than before, but he ain’t good. Unless that entire scene and it’s tone is a complete failure by the devs. Which considering how evocative every freaking other scene was, I really doubt it.
 
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waw

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I could see a different sort of Remnant Sephiroth show up in the compilation (like Kadaj, Loz, and Yazoo) that would have more of the "humanity" of Sephiroth, something we could see developing (and getting lost) in a First Soldier story. After all, there are a couple of hints at humanity in CC that get lost by and after the Nibelheim incident. But we should remember he was adored up to that point, it seems. At least, the public didn't know he had such a radically violent/maniacal side. At best, he had a deep psychotic break in Nibelheim and he changed.

That second option sort of tracks for me. I imagine before this, Sephiroth was somewhat thoughtful and more rounded, even being concerned about Genesis's wound. Yes, that Seph seems quite lost by the FF7 original... but delving back into the Wutai War or something, an origin story for Seph, could really make him far more three dimensional. I hope the theory of a more positive remnant comes true.
 
Makoeyes987

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Why would there be another remnant?

And if there were another remnant, it would only exist to serve in Sephiroth's ressurection. Why else would he make one?

If this 4th remnant had a more human and kind personality, then that would make it even more cunning and wicked than Kadaj. Because then it would be using that feigned goodness to get close to whoever it could to find Jenova and ultimately ressurect Sephiroth again and then cease to exist as it was.
 
waw

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I understand. I think there's room for a tried-and-failed Remnant, one that would encase Sephiroth's humanity and be a more tragic character. Like shedding himself of all the good/human/moral traits that might make him feel sympathy (or at one point did). This could even be his memories. It may not be an intentional Remnant, after all there is a period where he's sort of just discovering his powers.

I doubt there'll be another remnant, but I get the theory being bantered about here. Especially if we get a game/manga/anime/movie/whatever focusing on Seph, his nuances, and a greater sense of depth. Those more tragic values could be worth "saving" or attempting to.
 
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waw said:
I understand. I think there's room for a tried-and-failed Remnant, one that would encase Sephiroth's humanity and be a more tragic character. Like shedding himself of all the good/human/moral traits that might make him feel sympathy (or at one point did). This could even be his memories. It may not be an intentional Remnant, after all there is a period where he's sort of just discovering his powers.

I doubt there'll be another remnant, but I get the theory being bantered about here. Especially if we get a game/manga/anime/movie/whatever focusing on Seph, his nuances, and a greater sense of depth. Those more tragic values could be worth "saving" or attempting to.
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It certainly sounds like a thing we could see out of this development crew. Very much reminds me of the concept of Lumina from "Lightning Returns."
 
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Tetsujin said:
I mean, it's because they don't need to. *If* they reuse the VII Remake title for part 2, then that one's already trademarked. They don't have trademarks for each individual numbered entry either, just "Final Fantasy".
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Does that include DLC's or do they have to be separate trademarked?
 
Lex

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a_apple 2.0 said:
Does that include DLC's or do they have to be separate trademarked?
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It would depend on whatever they decide to call the DLC. A DLC like "The Witcher 3: Blood and Wine" would get trademarked, smaller DLC's companies wouldn't bother with.

Trademarks tend to include a stipulation about sequels though. Like another company wouldn't be allowed to make "FFVII Remake Part 2" - although I'm definitely on the boat that doesn't think the sequel will be called that. Part of the "twist" *shudders* was that "Remake" is a verb rather than an adjective.
 
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