Vendel
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Well let's hope there isn't some big cross-dressing scandal while they remake FFVII.
Tetsuya Nomura Working On Two Unannounced Titles
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Well let's hope there isn't some big cross-dressing scandal while they remake FFVII.
Makoeyes987
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ROTFL 
Yes, let's hope.
Yes, let's hope.
Isabella
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Serious response: that's horrible!
Not so serious response: let's hope some guy isn't buttraped in a hottub by some bodybuilders while trying to dress as a woman to infiltrate a whorehouse shortly before FF7's release.
Edit: damn it vendel!
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Tetsujin
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Mimimi.
You're starting to sound like a fucking idiot. Considering the other damn remakes kept the same kind of oldschool gameplay of their respective original games, why would a FFVII remake be different?
And yeah, I know the DS remakes weren't made by Square-Enix, but still.
They're doing something different with FFXIII, because it's a different game. I doubt they'd radically change a remake of VII and take out the minigames.
Fuck man, the snowboarding minigame became its own cell phone spin-off title.
They know people loved this shit in VII.
Makoeyes987
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And you're sounding like an over reacting idiot
The previous remakes that were done were of much smaller scope and scale than a full fledged PS3 remake of a PSone game. So equating the two is fallacious.
Why would FFVII be different? Because of the time, effort, and creative/design man power necessary to translate all of the gameplay interaction and mechanics into a PS3 game.
FFXIII was the best lens to see what Square Enix intended to do with next gen console development. They didn't fully utilize the power, and capabilities of the console. FFXIII was done. And it was haphazard and lazy in terms of game design. There's no fucking reason at all they couldn't make a game on par with the big name PS3 games such as MGS4, Uncharted, Infamous, Arkham Asylum, and the like. They fucking dropped the ball. Don't give me that shit about it being "different." It's inferior.
If that's how they're going to tackle next-gen console development, then they've got a lot to learn. There's gonna be a lot of shit coming there way from critics when that game gets released over in the West. It'll make DC look like nothing.
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DrakeClawfang
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Did Square(-Enix) get ANY of their first games on the new consoles right? Compare FF7 to FF8 and FF9, or FF10 to FF12, FF4 to FF5 and FF6. FF7 is epic, but compare FF7's graphics and scope to FF8 and FF9. Ditto for the other comparisons.
Makoeyes987
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How did they get FFVII wrong? Graphically they didn't fully make it as capable as say, FFVIII, but in terms of game design, it was solid.
Graphically those games may not be as good as the ones after them, but they were still solid games. Not gutted husks of what an RPG should be.
Tetsujin
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And you're sounding like an over reacting idiot
That'd still be you, fucker.
Yes, I give you the "it's different" shit and yes, different can result in "inferior".
How the game ends up is also the director's choice.
They said Nomura would most likely be the candidate for a remake of VII.
Remember that guy? The one who put a fucking space shooter minigame with fully customizable gummi ships in KH and who will apparently will make airships controllable again in Versus XIII?
Doesn't seem likely he'd be the type to remove minigame stuff.
I'm thinking that all the criticism about FFX-2 lead Toriyama to make FFXIII the exact opposite.
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Makoeyes987
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That'd still be you, fucker.
No u
Yes, I give you the "it's different" shit and yes, different can result in "inferior".
How the game ends up is also the director's choice.
They said Nomura would most likely be the candidate for a remake of VII.
Remember that guy? The one who put a fucking space shooter minigame with fully customizable gummi ships in KH and who will apparently will make airships controllable again in Versus XIII?
Doesn't seem likely he'd be the type to remove minigame stuff.
If Nomura is the director, then I'll feel a bit more confident in it. But honestly even that isn't really enough.
I think FFXIII's development direction isn't just a result of the director, but the actual executive board who controls how much time a game is allowed to be developed, and its funding.
These are the same people who forced a master game designer and director, Yasumi Matsuno, out of SE because of how long FFXII was taking to develop. Matsuno was a master in terms of assuring a game's quality, and helped make FFXII the game that it was now. And how do they reward his hard work, direction, and dedication to quality and innovation? They sacked his ass.
I think this is indicative of their corporate direction. Not just the creative minds behind the development. If Nomura's gonna have corporate breathing down his neck to hurry the fuck up and make FFVII's remake, no matter how inferior it may be to its original incarnation, then there's nothing that can be done.
No, Nomura doesn't seem like the type of guy who would cut corners and make a shitty product, but if the executive minds who sacked Matsuno are any indication of what SE values now, then I'm still worried.
DrakeClawfang
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That's more or less what I mean yes. That, and FF8 and FF9 were larger and covered more disks. They got more comfortable with the platform and were able to squeeze more out of it.
And maybe FF13 is a "solid" game too. It's fine to be wary, but don't commit to saying "it sucks" until you play it yourself.
Tetsujin
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The only FF game I never bothered to finish.
I only own two of Matsuno's games, Vagrant Story and FFXII.
And to be honest, both feel like a chore, gameplay-wise.
ESPECIALLY Vagrant Story. Ugh. >_<
But that's besides the point.
There's aspects about XIII that worry me too. I was really surprised that there aren't gonna be towns and exploration will be limited to Pulse. But I'm not saying it sucks until I've played it and see it for myself.
DrakeClawfang
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There's aspects about XIII that worry me too. I was really surprised that there aren't gonna be towns and exploration will be limited to Pulse. But I'm not saying it sucks until I've played it and see it for myself.
Exactly. For me, it's healing after every fight and being able to retry if you lose that made me lift an eyebrow - baaaad shades of Mystic Quest there. But I tried to think positively about the good things they could mean.
Makoeyes987
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Tetsujin...I thought they said Germans had great taste. Wtf, man? Wtf....
Anyways, you two go on being positive. I understand some people need to experience a storm to know its windy, so with that I say, good luck and don't be surprised if it's not everything you expected.
Cause I was expecting FFXIII to be Game of the Year here in terms of quality and gameplay. A contender with the likes of MGS4, Uncharted, or some of the other Western developed games for the next gen consoles that all the other fanboys were fapping over. My franchise I'm loyal to, and has made games of the year in the past, comes along and shat a turd on a plate and expected me to eat it. So yeah, I'm not too thrilled.
Anyways, you two go on being positive. I understand some people need to experience a storm to know its windy, so with that I say, good luck and don't be surprised if it's not everything you expected.
Cause I was expecting FFXIII to be Game of the Year here in terms of quality and gameplay. A contender with the likes of MGS4, Uncharted, or some of the other Western developed games for the next gen consoles that all the other fanboys were fapping over. My franchise I'm loyal to, and has made games of the year in the past, comes along and shat a turd on a plate and expected me to eat it. So yeah, I'm not too thrilled.
DrakeClawfang
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I won't be, I expect a FF game and that's a pretty large umbrella to fit under. The problem I have with declaring the game sucks is that if you convince yourself it sucks and then play it still in that mindset, you're going to blind yourself to the game's merits because you've spent so much time focusing on its faults.
Makoeyes987
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It's not really a mindset in my case, just an acceptance of reality. If I wanted to go to Pizza Hut for a stuffed crust pizza, and I"m told they don't serve that anymore, then no amount of rationalization or an open mind is going to soothe that disappointment. It's just not there.
And I'll acknowledge that FFXIII might have a great story I'll enjoy, but that's not all I look for in FF. I look for a challenge, an engaging game, and fun. And if I just wanted a good story, I'd crack open a book, or go with my friends to see a good movie.
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man you are on a roll with the analogies today
Makoeyes987
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Because that's the only way some people are gonna get it!
I don't understand what they don't get about me making a judgment on fact. It doesn't matter what shiny bells or whistles FFXIII flashes in my face. It won't make up for the fact its a hollow form of what an FF title should be.
Yeah, I'll probably love the story and be into it for a few days, but no goddamnit. It isn't gonna magically make its faults fade away and be replaced by bling and awesome. It just won't.
I don't understand what they don't get about me making a judgment on fact. It doesn't matter what shiny bells or whistles FFXIII flashes in my face. It won't make up for the fact its a hollow form of what an FF title should be.
Yeah, I'll probably love the story and be into it for a few days, but no goddamnit. It isn't gonna magically make its faults fade away and be replaced by bling and awesome. It just won't.
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I will concede that I have to actually play it to get the 100% full story, but I don't need to play it to know that I don't like what I see. Maybe I'll play it and enjoy it. That's certainly possible, but even the scenario of me enjoying it won't erase it's flaws. A few months from now, I really don't think I'll be "Contrary to my expectations FFXIII was a blast and on that note who needs towns and exploration fuck 'em". Even if I do enjoy it, I'm pretty much 100% sure I'll still acknowledge its flaws as flaws.
Makoeyes987
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Exactly. That's what I'm saying.
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Yeah I worry about them having to water stuff down too. They better keep the buttsex scene
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