The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

[crack]

i have the answers to all your problems:

tumblr.com

you will miss having nothing to do.

 

[Celes Chere]

you will miss having nothing to do.

Lawl I think I'll go onto Tumblr! *click click* This is fun! BD

*refreshes ---> 100 updates*

Hm... *click click* Ah, finally done! That was entertaining.

*refreshes ----> 100+ updates*

FFFUUUUUUUUU

 

[crack]

I spent hours looking at pictures of food and cats from that site. I HAVE NO REGRETS

 

[Celes Chere]

Did you see this food yet?

FUCKING YUM

 

[crack]

I'm hungry now and I want to eat Totoro.

 

[Celes Chere]

Mmmm

 

[Dashell]

Did you see this food yet?

FUCKING YUM

whoa no, waaaaayyy to sweet, that'd kill what's left of my teeth D:

 

[crack]

Those cupcakes look okay, but no cupcake matches up to these bamfs:

I CAN TASTE THE RAINBOW

 

[Dashell]

again too sweet


got any meat?

 

[crack]

here's a burger

EDIT: actually, this one looks tastier:

 

[Celes Chere]

HOLY CRAP THOSE CUPCAKES!! <3

Check out this awesome cake:

Too freaking cute to eat!

Here's some meat:

 

[crack]

ASODFJAWEM THAT DOG IS JUST PRECIOUS.

and THIS is too cute not to eat:

 

[Dashell]

here's a burger

EDIT: actually, this one looks tastier:

I was kinda hoping for a ham but I'll take what I can get

 

[crack]

Here is ham:

 

[Celes Chere]

Would thank, but ew, ham. OMG that dog had me rofl! Moar cute puppies:

And one mewmew.

 

[null]

No really guys, I don't wanna argue this anymore.

DEAD TO ME. DEAD.

Also, Maiden sucks.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

can't we post tls member porn anymore

 

[Splintered]

 

[null]

I hate raisin cookies

Maiden still sucks.

 

[null]

*checks watch*

Yep, like a cherry through a soda straw.

 

[Zee]

dance with me null

 

[Ryushikaze]

While we're talking about shit writing, I think the egg yolk metaphor deserves a special mention.

Maiden actually has a very good example of 'Not taking a character at JUST their word'

Chapter 1- Aerith's gushing about 'Loving him So much more' and 'They're different people' etc. etc.

Chapter 5- Aerith remembers 'everything that made Cloud Unique' and accidentally wakes up Zack with 'most' of the things she can remember about 'Unique' Cloud.

Maiden, if you want to keep it in continuity, is pretty damning to the 'Loved Cloud for Cloud' idea. Fortunately, it pretty much can't be in continuity, so Aerith doesn't realize she's been mixing up her emotions for Cloud with her emotions for Zack, determine not to do that, and then go and do exactly that.

 

[OneWingedDemon]

Uhhhhhhh, no, not OK? If you think Aerith is living out her romance for her dead boyfriend - who she fully understands is dead - through another man, you're saying she's a few ice cubes short of an igloo.
Let's not mince words.

Har Har. Well, considering Cloud falls through the same fucking roof, carries the same fucking sword and is the same fucking rank, has the same fuckign eyes, adopts Zack's mannerisms/characteristics, and she uses the same fucking lines on him that Zack did on her...yeah. I don't know how I'm supposed to just gloss over that.

Doesn't say "girl who's still not chasing the shadow of her dead boyfriend" to me, whether Aeris herself realizes it or not.
And I'm not saying anything Aeris says should be taken with a grain of salt. I'm saying that she has a history of not dealing with the pain of Zack's death, of refusing to ackowledge it, of pretending it's not important to her anymore then running out of the room trembling when she is faced with evidence that he didn't just run out with some girl as she would like to hope. That he wrote home about her.

She admits herself that she sees Zack in Cloud. My point is that Aeris adding "but it's no biggie, I dun care. Totally" every time she talks about Zack should not be taken as word-of-God when her actions show us the exact opposite. Because this contradiction of words vs. actions is SE pointing out that she is not telling you everything. That despite it being not a big deal, as Aeris says, it CLEARLY is and affects her accordingly. This is clear even in the OG.

Tifa was in love with fake Cloud too and didn't really know him beforehand either. Love is blind, cookies crumbles, so on and so forth, etc.

Not the fucking point. I'm talking about a woman who has a history of chasing after the shadow of her ex.
A woman who in large becomes fascinated by Cloud and attracted to him because of the similarities to Zack. Someone who constantly says it doesn't affect her, when it clearly does. Hell we even have that in writing.

Aeris DIES not fulfilling what she wanted, which was to stop chasing after Zack and love Cloud for Cloud. I'm not saying she CAN'T move on. Only that the game shows us this desire to see know the real Cloud (which is important to her and if she already knew and loved Cloud for Cloud she would not be asking it) and it never shows us her attraction for Cloud himself. For Cloud as separate from the shadow of Zack. We never see Aeris with this Cloud character she wanted to meet.
Her feelings for this Cloud are never developed. She dies.

I dunno. Are we playing with semantics here? Moved on/wanted to mvoe on/whatever whatever? She expressed the desire of wanting to develop feelings for Cloud without them being burdened by her ex's shadow. Yes. But the game never shows this actually happening. This tells you something in itself.

Worms, cans. Apply your standard to everything Cloud says and we can't say anything for sure about what the man wants.

I don't see how this applies to Cloud. I never made up a standard of crossexamination and never put everything every character says unde 'lies until proven right'.
Not even everything Aeris says. I'm merely pointing out that where Zack is concerned (and her heritage to an extent) she is shown by writers to contradict herself within the game with a very clear purpose: WHAT SHE SAYS ISN'T WHAT IS ACTUALLY HAPPENING. It's just a way of showing Zack means a lot more to her than she lets on. And this is important to fully understand her character and why she says/does what she does. This is FACT. Her behavior and SE's subsequent comments on this agree. I don't see why suddenly this has to be applied to everyone else.

Also cause I just remembered:
@Asuka:

My point was not that CC doesn't have awful cheese and a larger romantic subplot than FF7. I'm saying the links between Zack/Cloud aren't random. They are very much deliberate. Zack fell through the roof not because the staff were too lazy/couldn't come up with another way of introducing the character. It is because they wanted to cement the level at which Zack affects her future interactions with Cloud.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Whoa, was actual progress and understanding made in the past 30 pages? Holy shit, Hell can freeze over.

But my question still stands. This book was never mentioned as non canon before as far as I know.

There actually have been at least a couple of discussions about the Kaitai Shinsho here and how canon it could be considered. Honestly, I have no objection to counting something Benny Matsuyama wrote when there isn't a contradiction with anything official that came later. I doubt SE has taken it into consideration, but it is out there in the public with their logo on it.

After all, if SE publishes it, they are giving it their seal of approval. That being said, if it's not written by those directly involved in the making of the FFVII titles, it's in more danger of being written out of continuity, either because those directly involved either come up with different plans or are unaware of/forgot what Benny wrote.

It's not canon... why?
Keep in mind "part of the compilation" and "canon" are NOT the same thing.

Truer words ...

SE has contradicted and discontinuitied shit to hell and back even (especially?) within the Compilation.



Also:

Lol @ LTD.

 

[Strangelove]

I spent hours looking at pictures of food and cats from that site. I HAVE NO REGRETS

why aren't you linking me to these cats, woman?