The Final Fantasy VII LTD Thread (Round 4)

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Splintered

unsavory tart
I think I'm gonna keep posting Character Discussion topics until this one dies a fucking slow, painful death. :monster:

Poll: who's next? I was thinking the tragic victims of DoC. Or maybe Barret and Nanaki, 'cause they never get any love. Or maybe a general OGC versus Compilation topic.

ot: blah blah blah aerith cloud tifa blah blah blah
I totally have this huge Barret essay I was writing now collecting dust on my computer because I haven't got the motivation to finish it. Barret is one of my favorite discussion characters<3 I also like Reeve.
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
And yet here you are.
Nobody actually likes the LTD, but it's like a bad habit we can't quit. We just keep doing this terrible things to ourselves for all these years.

Deep down I think everyone here are masochists.
 
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Nobody actually likes the LTD, but it's like a bad habit we can't quit. We just keep doing this terrible things to ourselves for years all these years.

Deep down I think everyone here are masochists.

Or maybe it's just the joy of posting on a subject which involves us insulting another group for their stupidity. This group of course being 'the pinkers'. The feeling of superiority can be quite...riveting.

So yeah, these pinkers, what's up with them anyway? :loopy:

:awesome:
 
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Raquelborn

"I slice your ass in 4."
AKA
Raq, Raquel.
I just like reading about my favorite FF couple days upon end :awesome: /fangirl

Please carry on...
 

Vendel

Banned
This poor deluded Clerith. This person even had another clerith calling them out for having some very basic facts wrong about the game.

poorclerith said:
Technically they AREN'T the canon couple because square enix hasn't given the game a canon couple hence the term love TRIANGLE, meaning you get to decide in the game who you think goes with who and every game since final fantasy 7 including dissidia and kingdom hearts has had more moments with Aerith than Tifa. And about the childhood rubbish (no offense, really ) Tifa and her friends actually never played with Cloud or anything they always excluded him. He was an outcast. Tifa only became interested in him when he joined soldier. Aerith loved Cloud more than Zack and i think (in my opinion) people that think Cloud has to be with Tifa just because Aerith is dead are just down right sad. If YOU loved someone and they died would you stop loving them and go onto a next girl and that girl expects you to forget about your love and just make her the only girl you could ever love? And incase u didn't notice (sorry if i sound too serious, lol) Cloud doesn't live with Tifa and the kids he just helps out. Like a friend would. He lives in Aerith's church.

Pretty much standard fare. But then two post later this Gem.

poorclerith said:
f anyone has actually played the game and watched the lifestream scene cloud didn't actually make the promise or have a childhood with her. He was created by Hojo just like Sephiroth. Please don't be horrid to me if i got this wrong but this is what i got from watching it and hearing Tifa confess about that. >_>

Something from the boded parts don't add up.


Oh and for those cleriths who like to quote us and debate our points deep in the land of pink. You are free to come here or anywhere else to actually debate. You won't get banned for it.


And because I think it's hilarious http://destinyfailed.blogspot.com/ new update.
*waits for the desfailed bitching to start in 3....2....1*
 

Makoeyes987

Listen closely, there is meaning in my words.
AKA
Smooth Criminal
Well at the very least, a source of misinformation is finally going extinct. I can't say I'm not pleased with that.

LOL they used the macro I made. We should feel flattered. :monster:
 

Shadowfox

You look like you need a monkey
Well, that's a pretty funny reason to retire her site.

It's the end of an era. But I'm sure her essays will live on in the hearts of the Cleriths who frequent her site to be faithfully reproduced in many LTDs to come. I'm fairly sure that the folks at Destiny Failed would have archived at least some of her essays, if only so they can preserve the lulz.
 

Zee

wangxian married
AKA
Zee
skimming through the posts i thought it was desfailed that closed

son, i am disappoint
 

Splintered

unsavory tart
skimming through the posts i thought it was desfailed that closed

son, i am disappoint
Both sites are meh to me. It would be nice if they had an epic battle of LTD rage and then destroyed each other in some kind of glorious display of internet wills. Then at least it would be interesting.
 

Zee

wangxian married
AKA
Zee
god i how i wish this would happen.

still though, the site shutting down isn't all that surprising. there aren't many (active) ff7 fansites -- specifically character & couple sites -- left in general.
 

Eerie

Fire and Blood
She hates that she has to revamp her theories every new game SE makes? Isn't that admitting backpedaling altogether? ._.
 

ForceStealer

Double Growth
still though, the site shutting down isn't all that surprising. there aren't many (active) ff7 fansites -- specifically character & couple sites -- left in general.

Is ff7citadel the oldest? Because I seriously remember that site back when I first got the internet as a kid, lol. As long as we survive though, should Square ever announce something substantial FF7 Compilation related (or, heaven forbid, a remake) we'd actually be in a pretty good position as one of the only sources remaining. :monster:
 

Rinoa

Stargazer
AKA
Selene, Sheila
A clerith finally admits that constantly backpedalling, er, updating sites is hard work?

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Dana Scully

Special Agent
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YACCBS, Legato Bluesummers, Daenaerys Targaryen, Revy, Kate Beckett, Samantha Carter, Matsumoto Rangiku
I gotta say, it's not backpedaling to revamp your essays/theories when a new game comes out. I mean, we do it all the time here as well. New canon comes out, you gotta adjust, and not just for LTD-related things.

Of course, as she clearly ignores canon whenever it's convenient for her, I'm not sure why she put in all that effort to revamp them in the first place.

I mean everyone knows canon is just your personal interpretation of a game amirite.
 

Ryushikaze

Deus Admiral Parsimonious, PHD, DDS, MD, JD, OBE
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Tim, Ryu
I gotta say, it's not backpedaling to revamp your essays/theories when a new game comes out. I mean, we do it all the time here as well. New canon comes out, you gotta adjust, and not just for LTD-related things.

The backpedaling isn't in the revising. The backpedaling is in going 'Well X obviously means Y' and then rejecting your logic when you see X isn't what you wanted it to be.
Koibito is a goo example of this. From RF until COLW, There was much wringing of hands from FFG et. all that Koibito meant anything other than 'lover in a relationship' or 'beloved', including the infamous WacDonalds interview DesFail keeps a record of, insisting it meant 'one who loves' or had no meaning when written in Kanji.
There was also the argument that it doesn't tell us who Tifa is the Koibito in relation to, so it could be anyone!
Come COLW, and 'Woman' speaking from her own perspective, and suddenly Koibito does have a meaning in Kanji, it does mean lover, and Woman can't possibly be overstating things, using the second meaning, or wrong.
Plus the double standard that we can tell who 'woman' is (Yes, it's pretty obvious it's Aerith, my point is we're never actually TOLD it's Aerith. Maybe it's Tina.) but we cannot tell who the koibito in relation to Tifa is.
That's the backpedalling.
(As for the claims of C/T advocates backpedaling on the same issue, I find these overblown. Firstly, because several people were clarifying koibito before COLW hit, and because out basic stance hasn't actually shifted. We're skeptical of COLW because it's Clerith's POV only and she can't speak for everyone, not because we think the meaning of the word changed).
The 'Light' argument from KH is another such backpedal, but that bike's such a tangled mess I'm not sure where to begin.
There's the 'Aerith's ribbon is the red string of love (and it ties her to Zack!)' argument that some backpedaled on, some admitted was wrong, and others tried to justify with it not REALLY tying her to Zack, even though he actually has a connection to it with her.
I'm not sure 'Rival Orphanages' is a backpedal, strictly speaking, but there is an effort to disavow all knowledge of that.
The 'live on in the heart' argument is one area they haven't adjusted on, despite the statement that Aerith lives on in all the hearts of her allies and is said to belong in the lifestream of the planet itself.
Etc. etc. etc. There's a lot of sweeping proclamations made that later have to be reversed, sweapt under the rug, or kept by careful arrangement of partial evidence.


Of course, as she clearly ignores canon whenever it's convenient for her, I'm not sure why she put in all that effort to revamp them in the first place.

I mean everyone knows canon is just your personal interpretation of a game amirite.

No, only theirs. Their fanon is canon. It's the only one that counts.
 

Tifabelle

Pro Adventurer
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Tifabelle, Nathan Drake, Locke Cole, Kain Highwind, Yamcha, Arya Stark
The backpedaling isn't in the revising. The backpedaling is in going 'Well X obviously means Y' and then rejecting your logic when you see X isn't what you wanted it to be.

I have noticed that the more Cloti that comes out, the more it just means that Clerith is canon.

It's amazing...even in my limited trips around the internetz, it's easy to come across this "logic". It baffles the mind, and has given me a brain tumor. It takes a lot of effort just to read it; I can't imagine how much effort it must take to come up with half the crap.
 
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