The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

[Ryushikaze]

Consider CoT for a moment. Would that not be classified as purely Tifa's point of view, despite being written in third person? The narrator doesn't know things Tifa doesn't know, such as where Cloud disappeared to or why he's starting to distance himself. Wouldn't a truly objective narrator know that?

Nojima has employed third person limited subjective narrators before. We're not suddenly pulling this out of our sphincters for Case of Lifestream. What is a limited narrator? It only knows what the focus character knows.

I'm curious why the narrator automatically became the author.
Plenty of times authors will write narrators who are distinctly different entities, holding distinctly different beliefs than they do, because it makes the story interesting.

But yes, both CoB and CoT use 3rd limited. So does CoD, both in frame and Denzel's narration.

Oh and yes, noting that Aerith is in denial WRT her feelings and Zack's demise is not an insult. It's simply noting her emotional state at the time, and that she is seeking some comfort, some sanity in a callous world, especially after sensing the death of the man she loved for seven years, even though he was missing for five of them.

 

[Isabella]

The only time I would ever assume the narrator is the author is an autobiography.

But we better be careful, Ryu. Our lit geek is showing.

 

[kelly20]

Consider CoT for a moment. Would that not be classified as purely Tifa's point of view, despite being written in third person? The narrator doesn't know things Tifa doesn't know, such as where Cloud disappeared to or why he's starting to distance himself. Wouldn't a truly objective narrator know that?

Nojima has employed third person limited subjective narrators before. We're not suddenly pulling this out of our sphincters for Case of Lifestream. What is a limited narrator? It only knows what the focus character knows.

I agree..
but I am saying that for some they wouldn't realize that...

 

[Isabella]

Yes, but these are the same people who thought koibito was two words and meant anything but lover up until a week ago. There's nothing you can say to make them see things differently.

Sorta OT but not: Last night I was watching a report of a study that showed conservatives who watched Stephen Colbert thought he was a conservative, and liberals who watched him thought he was mocking conservatism. It made me think of this stupid LTD, and how your fundamental beliefs/preferences color what you observe.

 

[null.]

Those conservatives are fucking idiots.

And I am NOT a liberal.

 

[Edley]

Vote Satan

... So do the novellas retcon Crisis Core or vice versa or does Cloud just have that much of an effect on her?

 

[Ⓐaron]

conservatives who watched Stephen Colbert thought he was a conservative

Sorry, I couldn't help myself.

But yeah, it's a commonly observed phenomenon in social sciences that preconceptions colour people's perceptions - that is, people look for data that fits the schema they already have and reject data that doesn't fit those schema. Which in some cases can be helpful, I guess, but it can also lead to some rather irksome trouble.

 

[Tennyo]

Colbert Report>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Daily Show

Just had to throw that out there. <3

Um.... *searches for topic*

Do you guys think Colbert or Stewart are Cloti and what would they argue...?

 

[Ⓐaron]

They're both awesome, but yeah, pretty much.

at off-topicness. if they played FFVII they'd probably be sensible enough to see the truth, and might even construct lulzy sequences snarking at those who refused to accept canon.

 

[Isabella]

Do you guys think Colbert or Stewart are Cloti and what would they argue...?

Assuming they're hetrosexual males, they're clearly Cloti because of The Boobie Factor. At least, that's what I hear ...

 

[null.]

Colbert would (pretend to) be a Cleris.

Stewart would just leave a path of destruction...

 

[Tennyo]

That's probably what they would claim on their shows at least, caring not for the truth but rather the extraction of lulz from the topic. XD

Colbert would probably pretend to be Clerith, then interview someone who was Clerith and ask lame questions and act all stupid about it. lol

edit: lol posted same time as null. XD

They're both awesome, but yeah, pretty much.

Can't say I'm a fan of Stewart much. Not that he's terrible but I just don't find his brand of humor to be all that humorous. But I love Colbert.

 

[null.]

OMG. Tennyo, watch this and tell me you don't see the humor.

 

[Ⓐaron]

That segment is one of the best interviews in television history. Stewart absolutely destroyed them.

 

[Tennyo]

Well yes that was funny, and I didn't say he wasn't funny at all, but when I watch him do headlines on his show...I just think Colbert is funnier.

 

[A]

I lovelovelovelovelove Colbert. Although Stewart is good too.

Why are we talking about those two in an LTD thread?

 

[Ⓐaron]

Someone brought up that conservatives in a study thought Colbert was a serious conservative, and the conversation just flowed naturally from there

 

[Isabella]

Because the LTD is played out. This is more fun.

 

[null.]

Completely and utterly true, but eventually a grownup is going to see this thread. We should use our Faithian powers to mask our off-topicness.

 

[Isabella]

You realize that both you and I are older than the "grownups" here.
But you're right. Um, would Colbert wear these shoes? Oh no, wait, that's not right.

Anyone surveying the Japanese boards to see what they're saying about CoL?

 

[Celes Chere]

Colbert is a fucking Cloti! Because that man is God, and also, perfect. <3

Pardon me. ^^;

 

[Reference]

It takes some serious skills to do some major backpedaling like that.

Can someone fill me in? What does the use of koibito in the CoL prove, exactly?

 

[A]

We have Aerith considering Cloud as her beloved. Same goes for Maiden, really not a big change.

 

[Reference]

We have Aerith considering Cloud as her beloved. Same goes for Maiden, really not a big change.

Oh. I thought it was big proofz with all the sudden canon proclaimations. Boo.

 

[Tennyo]

Only thing about CoL that disappoints me is that I had been expecting a huge epic chase scene. XD Oh well, it probably wouldn't have fit anyway.