Goodbye Charlie
Rising Chest-Bank Protestor
Re: Love Triangle Discussion
[quote author=spirit_chaser link=topic=53.msg3324#msg3324 date=1229923656]
For your better understanding, biased Cloti:
`Reminiscence also shows Cloud's motorbike parked outside of Aerith's flower field as he makes the phone call to Tifa telling her that he's taking the day off tomorrow, rather than rushing home today. The sun is still shining brightly in this scene, so it appears to be happening during early or mid-day. Since Cloud says that he only has one more delivery to make to Midgar, it's easy to assume that Cloud has stopped outside the flower field to spend the rest of the day with Aerith.` FF_G @ clerith.com
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That is beyond incredible reasoning. I must admit, while I always felt FF_G's obsessive tendencies were disturbing, I could at least commend her for keeping her arguments - for the most part - intelligable. This is staggering - the sort of thing I'd imagine some one looking to appeal to her thinking would consider.
Because yes, someone watching the film would "get" that rationale. That the hero would be be taking the day of tomorrow for the party, ergo meaning he was spending the day standing in a flowerfield. Because the tonality of the film implicitly tells the average viewer that Cloud would have a picnic with a dead ghost; that a film whose entire concept is about Cloud moving on and accepting the past would end with him putting his present on hold.. to chat amiably/have sex with/cuddle a ghost.
So essentially, to FF_G, ignoring the fact the script dictates that Aeris is unseen and watching afar, thinks that a film that is pretty much solely about Cloud's self destructive guilt failing those he cares for and with the help of his friends and ghosts from the past move on from his pain, would end with him embracing the dead than the living - taken from a scene which was created to cap this notion of living in the present by Cloud taking a day off to be with his friends and family.
Staggering. Completely staggering.
[quote author=spirit_chaser link=topic=53.msg3324#msg3324 date=1229923656]
For your better understanding, biased Cloti:
`Reminiscence also shows Cloud's motorbike parked outside of Aerith's flower field as he makes the phone call to Tifa telling her that he's taking the day off tomorrow, rather than rushing home today. The sun is still shining brightly in this scene, so it appears to be happening during early or mid-day. Since Cloud says that he only has one more delivery to make to Midgar, it's easy to assume that Cloud has stopped outside the flower field to spend the rest of the day with Aerith.` FF_G @ clerith.com
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That is beyond incredible reasoning. I must admit, while I always felt FF_G's obsessive tendencies were disturbing, I could at least commend her for keeping her arguments - for the most part - intelligable. This is staggering - the sort of thing I'd imagine some one looking to appeal to her thinking would consider.
Because yes, someone watching the film would "get" that rationale. That the hero would be be taking the day of tomorrow for the party, ergo meaning he was spending the day standing in a flowerfield. Because the tonality of the film implicitly tells the average viewer that Cloud would have a picnic with a dead ghost; that a film whose entire concept is about Cloud moving on and accepting the past would end with him putting his present on hold.. to chat amiably/have sex with/cuddle a ghost.
So essentially, to FF_G, ignoring the fact the script dictates that Aeris is unseen and watching afar, thinks that a film that is pretty much solely about Cloud's self destructive guilt failing those he cares for and with the help of his friends and ghosts from the past move on from his pain, would end with him embracing the dead than the living - taken from a scene which was created to cap this notion of living in the present by Cloud taking a day off to be with his friends and family.
Staggering. Completely staggering.