Guys, I just wanted to point out that
some of you could be nicer to CloudXAerith shippers.
You call them stuff, quoting them, etc. And then you expect them to come here and debate? I don't think so...
I see no reason not to fight fire with fire.
I am really curious about their proofs and thoughts, so please don't make them afraid of join LS and debate and such.
I try not to, but it seems to happen anyways.
Okay I thought so, but just wanted to be sure since their names are really darn similar.
We are aware. It was quite fun when we were on a forum together for a short time.
Yeah what the hell do you assholes think you're doing quoting exactly what people have said in public verbatim? Don't you know it's against the rules to use someone's own words in any manner that doesn't support the point they wanted to make?
You Clotis are MEAN.
"Because I am mean is not a valid counterargument in a literary discussion"- Tim Jewett- AKA Me.
Now where it says that Tifa and Cloud are still living together as of that time I'll leave up to someone else to find, as I cba to read beyond that at the moment.
But it's definitely 4 years after Meteorfall that Denzel is telling his story to Reeve that day. And DoC occurred 3 years after Meteorfall.
Says it in both U10 and CCU, in different ways.
Well, my last quote from there actually got that person I quoted to find my MSN and talk to me. I tried convincing him/her to post here, but of course, that person is afraid of being bashed and flamed. Is anyone in here interested in bashing and flaming a member who posts their views respectfully? No, I didn't think so.
Anyway, he/she may join, and he/she may not.
I will not flame, nor will I bash, but I WILL unabashedly offer appraisals and criticisms of the narrative theories set before me. It's what I DO. It's what I got a major in.
The Cleriths that actually joined here felt picked on, probably because of all the responses that were given. I think we should go by what (I think it was Seto) said earlier, and not respond if something has already been said so that 80 billion of us aren't responding back to
one person. I also explained that this is a debate thread (Well, new title and all. . .
) , and that it's for proving a point, not stating an opinion.
The first post also now quite clearly states the purpose and thrust of this thread now as well.
If they wanted to state their opinion without it being analyzed and responded to, they should really do that in the Clerith Clubs because those areas are free from debate.
Well, not entirely, but I'm not arguing literary analysis in there, just snarking individuals pictures and such.
You know, one thing really baffles me.
Why are the Cleriths the ones that get butthurt, sensitive, hurt, offended, etc, so easily, if their pairing or "interpretation" of the story gets attacked? Maybe its my lack of experience, but I've never seen any fan of Cloud/Tifa getting butthurt, offended or "ran away" in regards to the LT debate or any discussion of it. How is it one fanbase is so hypersensitive regarding this? Why are they so scared/apprehensive, to actually get their hands dirty and debate the facts? Why do they have to feel "safe" to prove something they feel is so right?
Isn't that a bit strange?
Because they quite simply do not feel sure. That is the problem in a very condensed nutshell.
If they all came here to argue with us, it'd probably turn to a huge fledged flame war. We'd start taking sides, and we'd be talking behind each others backs - just what happened in the Northern Crater. They have some stupid venting forum for 'each side,' meaning they could rant out on people they disliked whilst they were debating.
Not that I protest against something like that...
No flaming, no private backbiting forum. Not here, anyways. Also, ten to one, if it did become a flame war, the same few folks would be taking it that direction.
shaslfaslfa okay I just have to
"Why don't the Cleriths join here? I mean, aside from the fact we have at least two threads copypasta'ing anything we can get to in their forums to mock it, they should know with their magical powers exactly what section of the fandom we're talking about and should just not be offended cause we say so! I mean, obviously anyone who is avoiding this place on account of their fandom being mercilessly mocked just has a stick up their ass and should get over it!"
I like everyone in here, but come the fuck on.
Colour me curious, but when we do quote and analyze, and yes, on occasion mock the more mind-numbing claims and rapid position shifts of explicit and named people, how are we being anything but being specific and referring only to a particular subset of the fandom?
Because the same isn't done to Cloti's and we all run and hide too in the face of opposition and challenge, right?
Not this little black duck, even though I detest being called a shipper of any sort.
Good thing brave Clotis SOLDIER ON THROUGH THIS NOBLE FIGHT
'Soldier on' no. 'Have skin more than 1nm thick' yes.
My point is, it's ridiculous to attack the main forum, cap specific posts, and then shrug shoulders like "I HAVE NO IDEA WHERE THIS SUDDEN ATTITUDE CAME FROM". Just because a lot of "old timey" debaters can tell who you are specifically mocking doesn't mean most of the casual passerbys do.
Point of order, 'this sudden attitude' has neither been sudden nor did it exist only after these rather recent actions. ACF was accused of having a Cloti bias, as was this forum from its very inception.
And Zee, there's the venting section, but there's also the special secret Cetra section- not nearly as secret as they wish it to be- and the amount of vitriol directed everywhere in some of those threads is indeed staggering.
