The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

[A]

I don't own an account there either, but according to others it's made some pretty harsh jabs at Cloti in general. And agreed with you there, I don't see why you have to have so much hatred for two fictional characters. It's not the end of the world if you see a picture of them paired up together, is it? I love CloudxAerith art - I don't think their canon, but I'm perfectly fine with seeing Clerith related fan art/stories/etc.

And yes, we should be the mature party. We might as well just ignore them.

 

[Death Sin]

Gotcha,

Thanks for clearing that one out, Ryu... It was kinda making me wonder. Shame that's how things are but, oh well. *shrugs*

What about Kingdom Hearts? Tifa wasn't even in the first one, totally Clerith proof.

Well apparently that was the line of thought of some until Kingdom Hearts Final Mix came to the scene...


...and later on Kingdom Hearts II


Anyway, yeah, AU is serious business XD

 

[Ryushikaze]

Gotcha,

Thanks for clearing that one out, Ryu... It was kinda making me wonder. Shame that's how things are but, oh well. *shrugs*

Well apparently that was the line of thought of some until Kingdom Hearts Final Mix came to the scene...

Oh, but it doesn't count for some reason. Was it Cali who said that? I forget. But I recall it being patently absurd and infuriating at the time.

...and later on Kingdom Hearts II

But she could be anyone's light. And Aerith is his light, despite belonging to neither. She has both light and dark so she's obviously someone else's light. And it's a different color too! And KH2 is all about 'internal light' besides. And...

Anyway, yeah, AU is serious business XD

Totally. Except not fucking at all. Cecil- yes, THAT Cecil- appears in Tales of Evermore, and among other things, lets you the hero know he's still married to Rosa. Guess the fuck what? ToE is totally NOT FFIV RELEVANT, SO HIS APPEARANCE IS POINTLESS.
Lucca from Chrono Trigger appears in Xenogears. Guess what though, this is UTTERLY INVALID when it comes to CT's timeline!

My point? AU is AU. It is not UC. Different AUs are not relevant to each other.
DEAL WITH IT.
But be warned, if you want to play the AU game, I'm familiar with the rules, and I can tell when you're bluffing.

 

[Channy]

I'll cash that for you.

You'll cash my coupon?

What about Kingdom Hearts? Tifa wasn't even in the first one, totally Clerith proof.

I fronted this idea somewhere in dis here tred.

I dunno lol. But yeah I think Channy got banned for doing something right along those lines.

Sumtin like that. They'll call me a Cloti in Clerith's clothing, and say that my Clerith fanclub is made for fanon DESPITE me saying I believe it's canon, and other members think of it as canon.

But basically, they banned me because I asked them to be more open minded and provided an ACC example or two. Can't remember ezzactly, lost the post and all replies to it were deleted as well. IT'S AS IF I NEVER EXISTED TO THEM AND IT NEVER OCCURRED

 

[A]

But basically, they banned me because I asked them to be more open minded and provided an ACC example or two. Can't remember ezzactly, lost the post and all replies to it were deleted as well. IT'S AS IF I NEVER EXISTED TO THEM AND IT NEVER OCCURRED

They would have probably started a thread dedicated to you if they still had that bashing member forum around.

So now they just act as if it never occurred instead.

 

[DrakeClawfang]

I once posted a Cloti YouTube music vid there. The song was basically about one-sided or unrequited love, which I felt is the kind of situation Tifa is in. The thread was closed, moved to the thread graveyard, and I got a PM from Anastar asking me why I would post such a thread. And I'm like "yeesh".

But yeah, generally nothing pro-Cloti is allowed. There's a whole subforum for anti-Cloti, though, where evidence against them is discussed and evidence for them debunked. I didn't even think my posting the vid was a big deal until the thread got vaped.

 

[Edley]

In this spirit of Cloti/Clerith reconciliation I'd like to remind everyone of the fanfiction where Cloud and Tifa show Aerith's corpse that words aren't the only way that show how one's feeling.

 

[A]

It's pretty disappointing that people can't post anything Cloti-related there. I mean, we definitely know that you're a Clerith shipper Drake, but liking a couple other than Clerith isn't exactly a big deal.And even more so. Cloud and Aerith are allowed to be shipped with anyone else as a fanon pairing in that forum, yet the only ones not acceptable are Zerith and Cloti, because it's a 'threat,' to their pairing. But really, would it be so bad if you posted a Cloti related video? It's not like it's going to immediately change someone's mind about liking Cloti instead of Clerith. It's ridiculous.

 

[Strangelove]

I never got banned, despite pretty much just disagreeing with people/my love of telling people when they're wrong But I didn't visit it often after, and don't at all now. And I did have my special membership taken away

FF7 commercial: "A love that could never be.." You all know what I'm talking about.

I thought 'Drag Me To Hell' was a proper horror film after seeing the ads, but I found out today it was a horror-comedy.

Never trust a trailer

Do we see Nojima or Nomura making up lines for the commercial? No, because that's not their job.

Sometimes the creators work on the catch copy (Hideo Kojima talked about picking MGS4's). But I doubt they would have anything to do with the English ads.

Also, link

 

[DrakeClawfang]

In this spirit of Cloti/Clerith reconciliation I'd like to remind everyone of the fanfiction where Cloud and Tifa show Aerith's corpse that words aren't the only way that show how one's feeling.

......what!?!? 0_0. ARG, the images are coming. OHGODNO!

Also, link

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t9pF9BJQBLo

I love the ending. "the most anticipated epic adventure of the year will *never* come to a theater near you!"

It's pretty disappointing that people can't post anything Cloti-related there. I mean, we definitely know that you're a Clerith shipper Drake, but liking a couple other than Clerith isn't exactly a big deal.And even more so. Cloud and Aerith are allowed to be shipped with anyone else as a fanon pairing in that forum, yet the only ones not acceptable are Zerith and Cloti, because it's a 'threat,' to their pairing. But really, would it be so bad if you posted a Cloti related video? It's not like it's going to immediately change someone's mind about liking Cloti instead of Clerith. It's ridiculous.

I guess that sort of thing is inevitable, natural corruption of power and such and such. What begins as a haven for persecution from those who don't agree with you develops into a place of persecution of those who don't agree.

 

[A]

In this spirit of Cloti/Clerith reconciliation I'd like to remind everyone of the fanfiction where Cloud and Tifa show Aerith's corpse that words aren't the only way that show how one's feeling.

................





Show me?

 

[Dashell]

Am I the only one that thinks that not being allowed to post Cloti stuff on a Clerith board makes sense?...

It's pretty disappointing that people can't post anything Cloti-related there.

Come on people, now you're reaching. It's a Clerith board. Why would you think you could post Cloti stuff there. You guys are the ones baawing now.

 

[Ryushikaze]

You'll cash my coupon?

I'll exchange it for what you wanted, yes.

I fronted this idea somewhere in dis here tred.

I recall laughing at it then, too.

Sumtin like that. They'll call me a Cloti in Clerith's clothing, and say that my Clerith fanclub is made for fanon DESPITE me saying I believe it's canon, and other members think of it as canon.

It's because you are civil with us, and we you, Channy.

But basically, they banned me because I asked them to be more open minded and provided an ACC example or two. Can't remember ezzactly, lost the post and all replies to it were deleted as well. IT'S AS IF I NEVER EXISTED TO THEM AND IT NEVER OCCURRED

I think there's photographic proof of it, though. Might be mistaken about that.

I once posted a Cloti YouTube music vid there. The song was basically about one-sided or unrequited love, which I felt is the kind of situation Tifa is in. The thread was closed, moved to the thread graveyard, and I got a PM from Anastar asking me why I would post such a thread. And I'm like "yeesh".

But yeah, generally nothing pro-Cloti is allowed. There's a whole subforum for anti-Cloti, though, where evidence against them is discussed and evidence for them debunked. I didn't even think my posting the vid was a big deal until the thread got vaped.

Like I said man, toe the party line.

In this spirit of Cloti/Clerith reconciliation I'd like to remind everyone of the fanfiction where Cloud and Tifa show Aerith's corpse that words aren't the only way that show how one's feeling.

That's pretty bad. Spirit lover bad, even.

It's that nothing Cloti is allowed, Period, and a major anti subforum.

Let me contrast this with Stardestroyer.net. A website about how the empire would crush the feddies and their allies in a military throwdown. Pro-trek arguments are not disallowed, are not grounds for banning under the rules, liking trek in various ways, hell, even writing pro-trek warfics and posting them to the forum is still allowed.
And that's from a man who makes absolutely no pretensions to civility in his forum, and even has rules against net nannying and enforcing logical rigor, which a lot of the pro-trek folks display a blatant lack of.

 

[Strangelove]

But yeah, generally nothing pro-Cloti is allowed. There's a whole subforum for anti-Cloti, though, where evidence against them is discussed and evidence for them debunked. I didn't even think my posting the vid was a big deal until the thread got vaped.

Can you no even have C/T stuff (like just a picture) even if you say "I think it's complete fanon and C/A is canon, I just like them as a fan thing"?

 

[Dashell]

Are you allowed to post Clerith at the Cloti board?

 

[DrakeClawfang]

I don't know, really. General consensus there is that Clerith is canon though, so I doubt it.

What I find particularly irritating there is that there's several threads there that focus entirely on how to debate with Clotis, how to refute their points, examples of arguments they'll use and how to counter them, and specific examples of Cloti proof and why that proof isn't valid. Basically, there's entire threads there dedicated to "training" Cleriths to debate with Clotis, actual step-by-step guides to debating. Like, wtf? Isn't the forum meant to be a haven from Clotis? When did it become a boot camp?

 

[A]

Am I the only one that thinks that not being allowed to post Cloti stuff on a Clerith board makes sense?...

Come on people, now you're reaching. It's a Clerith board. Why would you think you could post Cloti stuff there. You guys are the ones baawing now.

The fact is, any other fanart/fan videos/etc. with another pairing such as... say, Aerith and Tifa is allowed. But strictly nothing Cloud/Tifa or Zack/Aerith is allowed. It's bull shit to exclude a pairing they view as a threat to their pairing, when they allow any other pairing to be posted. If it really is a Clerith board, wouldn't they only be posting Clerith-related stuff?

Can you no even have C/T stuff (like just a picture) even if you say "I think it's complete fanon and C/A is canon, I just like them as a fan thing"?

No, they cannot.

Are you allowed to post Clerith at the Cloti board?

Yes.

What I find particularly irritating there is that there's several threads there that focus entirely on how to debate with Clotis, how to refute their points, examples of arguments they'll use and how to counter them, and specific examples of Cloti proof and why that proof isn't valid. Basically, there's entire threads there dedicated to "training" Cleriths to debate with Clotis, actual step-by-step guides to debating. Like, wtf? Isn't the forum meant to be a haven from Clotis? When did it become a boot camp?

This.

 

[Dashell]

The fact is, any other fanart/fan videos/etc. with another pairing such as... say, Aerith and Tifa is allowed. But strictly nothing Cloud/Tifa or Zack/Aerith is allowed. It's bull shit to exclude a pairing they view as a threat to their pairing, when they allow any other pairing to be posted. If it really is a Clerith board, wouldn't they only be posting Clerith-related stuff?

Okay I see, didn't know about the other couples thing, then yes that is kinda stupid that you can't even post a pic about it.

What I find particularly irritating there is that there's several threads there that focus entirely on how to debate with Clotis, how to refute their points, examples of arguments they'll use and how to counter them, and specific examples of Cloti proof and why that proof isn't valid. Basically, there's entire threads there dedicated to "training" Cleriths to debate with Clotis, actual step-by-step guides to debating. Like, wtf? Isn't the forum meant to be a haven from Clotis? When did it become a boot camp?

OMG THOSE ASSHOLES! HOW DARE THEY TALK ABOUT CLERITH AT A CLERITH BOARD AND HELP OTHER MEMBERS OUT WITH ARGUMENTS! Those assholes! Those bastards! That's the worst thing on the Internets!


No seriously you guys are being really retarded. REALLY retarded. I mean when did this thread become "bash Cleriths all the time lol". And before you say "don't read the thread then." Tkae your own advice and stop viewing their board. At the Clerith board they've pretty much decided to move on. This is what makes this forum look so bad. Get over yourselves.

 

[A]

No seriously you guys are being really retarded. REALLY retarded. I mean when did this thread become "bash Cleriths all the time lol". And before you say "don't read the thread then." Isn't one of the rules to be civil around here? At the Clerith board they've pretty much decided to move on. This is what makes this forum look so bad. Get over yourselves.

Because I agree with this (not all of it, actually), I'll just post something I said. Again

And in regards to this thread getting anti-Clerith, to be honest, I have to agree - let's just tone down a little. The Cleriths there are free to talk about us, but if we start talking about them then we'll just be dropping ourselves to the same position they're at. That forum already has a reputation for being notoriously anti-Cloti, and is looked down at for bashing and targeting people. We don't want to make this forum stoop down to that level, so we should just ignore them, otherwise we'll be acting hypocritical. If they keep discussing about us, the only thing that will come out from their side is make the forum's reputation worse than it already is. They can keep BAAAAAAWWWWING for all I care, let's just not do the same. And really, we're just fueling the fire with us talking about them every time they talk about us. It's like we're starting a flame war here, and we don't want that happening. We should just stop before things actually turn serious and people start taking jabs at others. It just sucks that we can't reach to a mutual agreement. I just hope that the CxA forum doesn't stoop deeper into it's anti-Cloti ways, and this forum doesn't become anti-Clerith.

We are bashing.

 

[Dashell]

ACK you quoted it before I edited it, can you quote my edit?

 

[Edley]

................





Show me?

It's somewhere in the pit of hell that is aff.net, and I'm not going back there.

 

[Death Sin]

Totally. Except not fucking at all. Cecil- yes, THAT Cecil- appears in Tales of Evermore, and among other things, lets you the hero know he's still married to Rosa. Guess the fuck what? ToE is totally NOT FFIV RELEVANT, SO HIS APPEARANCE IS POINTLESS.
Lucca from Chrono Trigger appears in Xenogears. Guess what though, this is UTTERLY INVALID when it comes to CT's timeline!

My point? AU is AU. It is not UC. Different AUs are not relevant to each other.
DEAL WITH IT.
But be warned, if you want to play the AU game, I'm familiar with the rules, and I can tell when you're bluffing.

Yep, couldn't agree more I mean, its totally true, UC wise, that Cloud and Squall know each other, YuRiPa are fairies, Tidus/Selphie/Wakka are kids, etc, etc. Yeah... not the best line of argument there.

But basically, they banned me because I asked them to be more open minded and provided an ACC example or two. Can't remember ezzactly, lost the post and all replies to it were deleted as well. IT'S AS IF I NEVER EXISTED TO THEM AND IT NEVER OCCURRED

I once posted a Cloti YouTube music vid there. The song was basically about one-sided or unrequited love, which I felt is the kind of situation Tifa is in. The thread was closed, moved to the thread graveyard, and I got a PM from Anastar asking me why I would post such a thread. And I'm like "yeesh".

Yeah...



... That's definitely taking things waaaay too far, if you ask me. I do believe both sides would have a lot more to gain if they were more willing to be a bit more open minded and willing to actually discuss their views on the open instead of secluding themselves like this and endorsing that sort of anti-pairing views (which only limitates one's perspective and makes you lose credibility, IMHO). But, hey, to each his own, I guess.

In this spirit of Cloti/Clerith reconciliation I'd like to remind everyone of the fanfiction where Cloud and Tifa show Aerith's corpse that words aren't the only way that show how one's feeling.

LMAO!

That mental image is so, so wrong its almost epic! XD

I guess that sort of thing is inevitable, natural corruption of power and such and such. What begins as a haven for persecution from those who don't agree with you develops into a place of persecution of those who don't agree.

I completely agree. And my honest props to you, Drake, for being able to realize and see it as it was, despite your personal beliefs pairing wise. For what is worth, you have my respect there, man.

 

[A]

ACK you quoted it before I edited it, can you quote my edit?

What do you mean?

 

[DrakeClawfang]

....."Tales" of Evermore?

FAIL, FAIL, PHAIL AND MORE FAIL! Secret of Evermore is one of a triad of what I declare my favorite three RPGs of all time. To misname it is sacrilege!

As sick as I know it will make me, I'm finding that fic.

 

[A]

If you do, share it to me.