The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

[Tennyo]

Leave it to me...

 

[Channy]

But you aren't a Clerith. You can only taint the tru luv. D;

 

[Zee]

I must say that I agree with the points on all sides. I kind of wish this thread could have more mature debate instead of pointing and laughing, and I had that most of the time this is all it is. I'd like for all the negativity to stop so that both our sides can get along.

Basically, this.

But really when the opposing side is arguing something as ridiculous as some of the essays are, it's hard to stifle one's mirth.

See, this is my problem. Yes some Clerith arguments are ridiculous, but what I'm trying to get around to is that even some trivial things (ie; lolol cloud and aeris walk next to each other in ISS) are suddenly mocked as if they were the end all be all of proof in the Clerith bible. While most people in the fandom are seasoned enough to simply know what counts as mocking and what doesn't, there are still newbs to the fandom that might not get it at first, and it's kind of a jarring introduction.

(And if you think fandom impressions can't scar you, imagine being nine years old and stumbling onto a site called Tifa in Hell. That was my intro to this WONDERFUL WONDERFUL FANDOM.)

tl;dr when you basically go to the clerith stomping ground to cap specific posts, I don't think it's a stretch to call it a personal attack to the fans, since even those who weren't capped might think, "Well gee, everyone I know is just getting shit anyway, why should I bother?" etc etc

I know I'm probably coming of as a bitch but lol just my two cents :|

 

[I Am Not Me]

OHMAILOL

I'm converting to Clerith nao.

 

[A]

And in regards to this thread getting anti-Clerith, to be honest, I have to agree - let's just tone down a little. The Cleriths there are free to talk about us, but if we start talking about them then we'll just be dropping ourselves to the same position they're at. That forum already has a reputation for being notoriously anti-Cloti, and is looked down at for bashing and targeting people. We don't want to make this forum stoop down to that level, so we should just ignore them, otherwise we'll be acting hypocritical. If they keep discussing about us, the only thing that will come out from their side is make the forum's reputation worse than it already is. They can keep BAAAAAAWWWWING for all I care, let's just not do the same. And really, we're just fueling the fire with us talking about them every time they talk about us. It's like we're starting a flame war here, and we don't want that happening. We should just stop before things actually turn serious and people start taking jabs at others. It just sucks that we can't reach to a mutual agreement. I just hope that the CxA forum doesn't stoop deeper into it's anti-Cloti ways, and this forum doesn't become anti-Clerith.

 

[Zee]

Okay then, ty A.

 

[Tennyo]

But you aren't a Clerith. You can only taint the tru luv. D;

Screw taking sides, maybe I like everything, huh?

lol Anyway, a gift for you my ChanChan:

 

[Channy]

Oh tenten, you never cease to please me and my Clerith ways. <3

 

[Ⓐaron]

:clerith: added as :clerith:

 

[Tennyo]

lol Epic

Oh tenten, you never cease to please me and my Clerith ways. <3

Oh but of course. <3

 

[Dashell]

I kind of have to agree with Zee. It's impossible to tell who really started this whole thing but a lot of us do screencap their posts and mock them, then call them crybabies when they refuse to sign up. I mean they COULD learn to take things less seriously, but you know we could be the bigger and better people here and just stop that proving once and for all that Cloti's are more mature. The absolute worst thing you can do to your enemies is forgive them. I know this. I've done this several times and the other person didn't know what hit them. PLUS it looks better in the eyes of the public.

I'd hate to have to do that but... meh, maybe more Cleriths would sign up here and bring us lulz.

 

[Channy]

So what's been talked about in the last 5 pages since I been gone? Apparently shit's going down at clerith.com?

 

[Tennyo]

Basically, this.



See, this is my problem. Yes some Clerith arguments are ridiculous, but what I'm trying to get around to is that even some trivial things (ie; lolol cloud and aeris walk next to each other in ISS) are suddenly mocked as if they were the end all be all of proof in the Clerith bible. While most people in the fandom are seasoned enough to simply know what counts as mocking and what doesn't, there are still newbs to the fandom that might not get it at first, and it's kind of a jarring introduction.

(And if you think fandom impressions can't scar you, imagine being nine years old and stumbling onto a site called Tifa in Hell. That was my intro to this WONDERFUL WONDERFUL FANDOM.)

tl;dr when you basically go to the clerith stomping ground to cap specific posts, I don't think it's a stretch to call it a personal attack to the fans, since even those who weren't capped might think, "Well gee, everyone I know is just getting shit anyway, why should I bother?" etc etc

I know I'm probably coming of as a bitch but lol just my two cents :|

I see where your coming from, but neither side can claim innocence here. But it's hard when you see people coming up with ideas left and right that go against canon and us them as proof simply because it will help their side. It's like writing a novel and not allowing your manuscript to be edited. Here even if someone comes up with a great argument for Cloti that seems like it could put Clerith to shame, we dissect it and if there is even the tiniest thing wrong with it we call out own people out on the bullshit and put an end to it. We can argue without taking it personally, and are willing to listen to what the other side has to say.

Most of us anyway. But all I see are people going into debates and throwing tantrums when people don't automatically change their minds, but then go around the internet trying to convince everyone that they are right anyway.

I say stand up and fight if you want to share your opinion.

But I do wish the bashing would cease in this forum. Someone has to be the adult here and change. It'll probably have to be us, but that's good I think.

 

[Dashell]

So what's been talked about in the last 5 pages since I been gone? Apparently shit's going down at clerith.com?

Shit went so far down it went up.

 

[Ryushikaze]

But I already have free internet. Gimme sex instead?

I'll cash that for you.

And point of order, Zee, but Itadaki WAS fronted at one point as 'ZOMFG AU C/A Proofs', and that idea should be mocked as being patently ridiculous, along with any other attempt at taking ISS as narratively ANYTHING, given what it is.

 

[Dashell]

What about Kingdom Hearts? Tifa wasn't even in the first one, totally Clerith proof.

 

[Ⓐaron]

I just don't see why, if someone says something absurd on another forum where we're not allowed to counter it, we shouldn't be allowed to call out the absurdity. It might not be "nice," but neither is banning everyone who tries to post a dissenting opinion on your forum. It's a two-way street.

 

[Death Sin]

Wait, wait... People can actually get banned on the CxA forums if they try to argument any points made there (even if they aren't directly Cloud/Tifa related)? While I definitely don't agree with it, I can understand (to an extent, at least) them not allowing debates or pro Cloud/Tifa stuf there, but that just seems a bit too much...

 

[Ⓐaron]

From what I understand, yeah pretty much arguing anything remotely CxT is a warning and if repeated, a ban. Hell they won't even allow CxT imagery in avatars and signatures and such.

 

[Death Sin]

So even if I were a pro Clerith, I wouldn't be allowed to argument/debate against the points/statements of other CxA members if I didn't agree with them? o_O

 

[A]

No, they won't. It's as if anything Cloti related there is some kind of plague. No Cloti graphics, no Cloti fanfictions, nothing Cloti related. Just as long as it's bashing of Cloti, or anti-Tifa, that's acceptable. People will most likely get warnings for posting anything Cloti, and will most likely get banned for speaking up for Cloti, even if they're bashed ridiculously.I think they used to have a bashing thread specifically for members. So yeah, you can guess the level of their maturity when it comes to bashing and being anti. Banning or warning someone for supporting another couple is just plain shit.

But otherwise, we should also tone down when it comes to the teasing of Cleriths/Clerith in general here. We don't want to stoop the forum to that reputation.

 

[Ⓐaron]

I dunno lol. But yeah I think Channy got banned for doing something right along those lines.

 

[Death Sin]

No, they won't. It's as if anything Cloti related there is some kind of plague. No Cloti graphics, no Cloti fanfictions, nothing Cloti related. Just as long as it's bashing of Cloti, or anti-Tifa, that's acceptable. People will most likely get warnings for posting anything Cloti, and will most likely get banned for speaking up for Cloti, even if they're bashed ridiculously.I think they used to have a bashing thread specifically for members. So yeah, you can guess the level of their maturity when it comes to bashing and being anti. Banning or warning someone for supporting another couple is just plain shit.

Wow...



Anyway, I was simply asking out of curiosity since I never visited the CxA forums because I already knew it had Anti-CloudxTifa and Anti-Tifa stuff and I would never join any sort of anti-site/forum, out of principle. Dunno, I just don't think its right and when you have so much open anger towards fictional characters, well, you might need to take a break, chill out a bit and re-evaluate where you stand. That's just my opinion, though. Take it with a grain of salt, if you must

But otherwise, we should also tone down when it comes to the teasing of Cleriths/Clerith in general here. We don't want to stoop the forum to that reputation.

Yeah, I definitely agree there. Might as well be the mature party here and give the example. *nods*

 

[Ryushikaze]

It depends on which member's arguments you decide to take issue with.

The party line is a big deal, so don't stray too far from it.

Of course, if you toe the party line well, you get rewarded. Quite rapidly.

 

[Tennyo]

Yeah, I definitely agree there. Might as well be the mature party here and give the example. *nods*

I agree with this statement.