The First Epic LTD of TLS forums

[Neutron Ronnie]

Yeah we're talking about memes here, so I'm not sure what you're going on about over there O_o

Haha - I saw a post about Tifa being a slut that kinda rilled me up and I'd typed out a reply...

... But I couldn't send it out right away. By the time I got back from lunch the thread left me behind ages ago, and I posted without checking. Sorry.

 

[Ⓐaron]

And I'll just throw this out there ... Tifa just walked through his flipping mind! And people say she doesn't know him. Can anyone possibly know him better after that?

The creators have actually explicitly said that she understands Cloud better than anyone else does. Now that I think about it, I feel kind of stupid for not remembering that earlier.

Haha - I saw a post about Tifa being a slut that kinda rilled me up and I'd typed out a reply...

... But I couldn't send it out right away. By the time I got back from lunch the thread left me behind ages ago, and I posted without checking. Sorry.

Don't apologise, I'm glad you did

 

[Isabella]

That has a tendency to happen, the way this thread moves.

 

[Alex Strife]

And I'll just throw this out there ... Tifa just walked through his flipping mind! And people say she doesn't know him. Can anyone possibly know him better after that?

No, unless some Cleris comes and says:

"Can someone know Cloud better than living inside him, as portrayed in AC/C?"


And upon hearing/reading that, I'd go:


But I agree, once again, with you, Isabella, nobody can know him better.

 

[Isabella]

Whenever I read Cleriths talk about Aerith living inside of Cloud, I think of that Mucinex commercial where the mucus is taking up residence inside the guy's lungs and hanging curtains and shit. /random

 

[Neutron Ronnie]

Whenever I read Cleriths talk about Aerith living inside of Cloud, I think of that Mucinex commercial where the mucus is taking up residence inside the guy's lungs and hanging curtains and shit. /random

The most rabid sisterhoods of Clerith might bathe in your blood for that...

Someone else here compared her to a stomach parasite, I think...

 

[Strangelove]

I just wanted a meme with relevance to what my post of replies to posts 10 pages back is about

In reference to Tifa was it written as koi bito or koibito? Same with Aerith, or was it the same way both times?

Written in Japanese, they would be absolutely no way to tell the difference between 'koibito' and 'koi bito' because Japanese doesn't use spaces between words.

Also, one of those doesn't actually exist If it did, then the context might help, but there's no point dwelling on non-existent word that apparently even the people who supported it don't care about now.

In other words, regardless of what your generic English<--->Japanese dictionary says, the true definition of koi bito is not "sweetheart"

BTW is that true?

By 'generic English-Japanese dictionary' (lolz), she meant seemingly ever other dictionary in existence but the one that gave this new meaning, the "Nihon Jibiki" (the Japanese dictionary).

Except that despite being the Japanese dictionary, you can't find it on Google or Amazon. (I think I asked Resha IIRC about it once, but she couldn't read the actual title of it or something.)

If you mean me, I get it now. I didn't really know how Tifa was referred to but, someone explained it and it makes sense. It's just someone said koibito was rarely one sided, but I guess that's only when it's not one person's feelings... right?

When you use it, it has the implications of being a two-way, mutual relationship (and an actual romantic relationship, not just "I like you, you like me").

You can still use it even if that's not necessarily true, because people can lie or get things wrong But people will assume that you're in a proper relationship with the other person if you use it.

Kitase: The event of Highwind, before the decisive battle, is also made by Kato-san.

Nojima: Yeah, is that the scene with delicate dialogue? It's written by Kato-san, not me.

Q: "It is not only language that can express feeling" is quite adult in FF7.

I remember that word as well, but it also happened to have other definitions (although these actually do exist ) but the 'risqué' one which apparently doesn't exist. Except that yar, it really does.

Also, can I haz page number on this risqué Don Conero thing? I looked through that page (briefly) and didn't see it.

She's been crushing/loving this guy for what... 5 years now?

7 years. But they've only been reunited about two weeks by the start of FFVII.

But two weeks is for true love

 

[OneWingedDemon]

Tifa is stated to be the one who knows him best several times.
I mean, in addition to being the only person his heart calls out to. Just sayin'

 

[lisette]

I know it's already been addressed, but I just had to put in my 2 cents:

Yes yes, I know she was drawn by horny Japanese men, but is her outfit really anything she should be wearing to save the world? Granted Aerith's isn't much better, but she was just the slum drunk stranger on the street who got swept up in everything too quickly.

And her CC/Nibelheim outfit... Again, yes horny Japanese businessmen drawing a loli I see the point here but still... Is that any way to dress as a teenage girl? And I hear the argument that she dresses that way to try and impress Cloud. Does that mean it's okay for young teenage girls to dress like stylish sluts to impress a guy? That sets a very bad message.

I agree that some of her outfits are revealing, and it's a bit shocking given her age at those times, but at best, that only tells us that she lacks shyness/conservativeness (when it comes to her physical appearance anyway). It doesn't tell us anything about her level of sexual promiscuity. I wear revealing outfits sometimes, and I'm just about the most frigid bitch hereabouts

And anyway, "if you've got it, flaunt it" seems to be the motto in FFVII - Aerith flaunts her legs, Sephiroth flaunts his chest, RedXII flaunts his entire body (that slut)...

I find her personality completely unrelatable. She's been crushing/loving this guy for what... 5 years now? Maybe longer if we delve into childhood and can call that early stage puppy love. And yet she could never once muster the strength to try and come forward to him about her feelings until AFTER her competition is sliced and diced.

Actually, I admire her for being able to come out with her feelings at all. I liked someone for 4 years, and never told them (alas for being a frigid bitch )

Despite the world ending, does she really have no other thoughts on her mind other than sex?

NO other thoughts on her mind? The conversation that led up to the (possible) sex (I'm still only about 75% sure that sex under the Highwind occurred) dealt with a variety of thoughts: the upcoming battle, the Lifestream, the stars, etc, even personal philosophy.

In fact, I don't think Tifa even thought of sex til the very end of the convo - for most of it, she was just rambling on about that stuff I mentioned above. It was only when Cloud said he had a lot he wanted say to her but couldn't that she came out with the "risque" line - her line was merely a response to his. If Cloud had been able to verbalize his feelings, she probably would have been content with just that, and wouldn't have thought of anything "risque" at all.

tl;dr: The foremost thought in Tifa's mind was how she could resolve Cloud's problem of not being able to express his love verbally, not how she could get laid so she wouldn't die a virgin.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Tifa is obviously a slut. I mean, look at that outfit!

So are

Spoiler: Fran

,

Spoiler: Ashe

, and of course

Spoiler: Penelo

.

Only sluts would dress like that!

 

[Raquelborn]

The point of the Highwind scene is that something intimate happens between Cloud and Tifa. Whether someone perceives it to be them cuddling all night or having full-on sex will depended mainly upon the kind of person they are, but the fact that it happens, and it happens whether you're not very nice to Tifa or not says something in itself.

It shows us that at that stage in the game, Tifa blatently loves Cloud and knows that Cloud has the same feelings for her (as cleared up by Ultimania quotes). They then go on to spend a night together, alone and within extremely close physical proximity i.e. right up against one another. Now if this scene was rendered in PS3 quality CGI I'm sure the scene would suddenly seem a lot more romantic to anybody watching.

Cloud also didn't strike me as grieving in this scene; he is thinking a lot about his fight with Sephiroth.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Let's see, on the subject of Tifa knowing Cloud, not only has it been said that she knows Cloud best and all too well, but we are also told that before the game even began she had sussed something was up with him and she asked him to work with AVALANCHE to keep an eye on him.
She knew something was wrong with him from the beginning, she just had no clue what caused it or how to fix it.
She also didn't ignore/ not notice him, he just acted like a tool and kept picking fights.
She still came out to a known date spot when he asked and dressed up for him.

As for slutty... I look at these people, and ask what of Rosa, Terra, Rinoa, Garnet, Rikku and Yuna, etc. etc. etc.

As for virginity, I'd say the chances of Tifa not being a virgin are worse than Aerith's in that regard. At least Aerith had a long running relationship with someone we know of, namely Zack.

As for sex on the highwind, it's not about Cloud grieving, or Tifa stealing Cloud from Aerith- if such a thing even needed to be done- since Tifa was grieving for Aerith too, but that was tangential to the tensions that awaited them, and Cloud's entire monologue of wanting to tell Tifa so many things but always failing to find the right words. That's not something a man grieving over a lost love says. That's what a man trying to admit his feelings for the girl in front of him says.

-Incidentally, people getting on Tifa's case for taking so long to admit her feelings should be ragging on Cloud too, since that man was struck with near terminal shyness-

As for 'risque' and 'adult', 'words aren't the only way to show how you feel' is only adult or risque if it implies adult or risque things, such as sex or making out.
Add to that the common trope/ psychological phenomenon of 'end of the world sex' and 'iola!

 

[Raquelborn]

I don't think this has been discussed in this particular thread yet.

"I left Marlene with Tifa. Since she's taken to her and all."

"Good for you. Whole world's clappin' you on the back. So Cloud's with Tifa?"

@Everyone who has seen this in Japanese. How is the 'with' of the question "Cloud's with Tifa?" written? Is Cid asking if they are physically within the same location or actually an item?

Or is it the same in Japanese like it is in English? It's just that something is telling me it isn't.

 

[Isabella]

Don't forget the line a few lines down that says Tifa wears the pants. That's a phrase that's always applied to relationships.

 

[Celes Chere]

There's this love triangle thing going on, and Cloud's a grieving guy. Then Tifa, who feels relieved that her competition is gone, takes advantage of poor Cloud because people who are upset/depressed are more/usually easily swayed into sex. I have many negative thoughts revolving around this, but none that will come out more coherent enough (not at this hour anyway) other than Tifa's having sex with a guy to try take his mind off shit that's troubling him. While this is realistic and happens irl... again... bad message.

You seriously think Tifa is taking advantage of Cloud's emotions to have sex with him? I'm not sure why people who dislike Tifa can't see her for the modest, selfless, and 'human' character that she is. She's been described in a positive way by her very own creators. The only time I can think of them saying that she dresses shall we say 'sexy' is when she dresses up for Cloud in her CC outfit. Now, I can't say I agree that a fifteen year old girl should be wearing that outfit. (Which was much more modest in LO and the game) It's not like it's her every day attire, though. This is something she wore especially for Cloud, who she loves like woah. I'm sorry, but I kind of fail to see how Tifa is taking advantage of Cloud when she seems to step aside when Aerith is on his nuts, and even apologizes to Aerith in CoT (I believe).

Tifa's actually the last FF girl I'd expect to take advantage of someone. It just doesn't make sense with her personality. To judge some-one on how they dress too, is a bit of a stretch.

Besides you Cloti's don't need me there. You guys got enough going for you all ready. I'd just be a burden.

Actually, we're trying to increase activity. There are a lot of members who signed up, but never posted so I sent a PM to all of them telling them to post at least once, or gtfo. Except you know, in a nice way.

Cloud was the one crushing on Tifa in the past.

Tifa crushed on him too. She said she remembered him as being cute, and after he left, she wondered about him and searched for him. Waited for him, even. Tifa's a gorgeous girl, and there are plenty of men around her like Johnny. Funny how she saves herself for Cloud and Cloud only, but she's still a slut, amirite?

She and Cloud were NOT friends as children.

YES they WERE. Think the creators are lying when they call Cloud and Tifa childhood friends?
Here's some quotes for ya:
---

Spoiler

Compilation Check

A Promise to Tifa, Etched in his Memory

When Cloud left the village dreaming of being a SOLDIER, he swore to Tifa that he would come running to her rescue if she was in trouble. While it was Tifa who strong-armed him into making the promise, it seems that the idea that he must keep this vow was forever in Cloud's mind. In BC he is obsessive about protecting people, and if he runs out of strength part way though he will mention the "promise".

Quote: text near image of picture in box
If he runs out of strength part way through the story, he will say regretfully that he "couldn't come through on my promise to her".
---
Apart from being Cloud's childhood friend,
she is also the woman who understands him all too well and devotedly supports the mentally-weak side of him. Although she seems spirited and cheerful, she actually has a family-oriented and modest personality, often paying attention to her surroundings.

^Hm, she just sounds like a big slut here.
---
The present Tifa isn't just Cloud's childhood friend, but also the mother of the 'family' they were forming in Edge.
---
She seems to be in a state of worry about Cloud, but is able to hear from bits and pieces of her conversation with the Turk.

&#12300;Do you know a boy named Cloud&#65311;&#12301;

Quote: text near in game image of Tifa speaking to the turk on the dolly car saying "He left the village 2 years ago to become a SOLDIER"
Seemingly worried about Cloud after he had left the village, she asked the Turk
who had saved her whether he knew about him.
Quote: text near image of Tifa standing in a burning Nibelheim screaming "Unforgivable!"
Tifa, whose precious village has been burnt, erupts in rage. However, it doesn't look like she'll be able to oppose Sephiroth . . . . . .
Quote: text near in game image of the Promise by the Well scene in BC
The familiar reminiscence scene from She made a promise
with Cloud, who had called her to the well, that he would &#12300;Protect her when she was in a pinch.
When you become a SOLDIER and I'm ever in a bind . . . . . . Cloud, come and save me, all right ?]
---
Holding the hope of a reunion in her heart
The young lady who waited for the SOLDIERs

&#12300;I am the best guide in this village if you're speaking of that&#12301;

She was placed as the 'village girl who met the protagonist Zack at Nibelheim where he had been assigned to'. When she heard that there would be SOLDIERs coming to the village, she looked forward to being reunited with a Cloud who had became excellent/praiseworthy. However, she was unable to meet with him and though disappointed deep down,
she lead the SOLDIERs towards the Nibel Reactor. Alongside the figure from
Cloud's recollection scene in&#12300;&#65318;&#65318;&#65334;&#65321;&#65321;&#12301;, Tifa's situation prior to Mt. Nibel and
the Reactor is revealed.

Quote: text near image of Tifa crouching over a collapsed Shinra MP while saying "This person, protected me . . . . . ."
During the time that Zack and the others were in the Mako Reactor, monsters came attacking. Worriedly watching over the soldier who had collapsed while protecting her, could that soldier perhaps be . . . . .

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Link to FF7 Series

The only woman who knows Cloud&#8217;s past

In FF7, Tifa is the only one who knows Cloud&#8217;s childhood, and furthermore, she holds the key to people involved in the story of Nibelheim&#8217;s burning down, which is also depicted in CC. She and Cloud came to realize their feelings for each other in the end of the story, and live together in AC and DC.

Quote: Text near the image of FF7 with Cloud saying &#8220;Za&#8230;.ck&#8230;Zack&#8230;&#8221; and Tifa&#8217;s &#8220;You remember it!&#8221;
Tifa becomes the only witness to Cloud&#8217;s blurry memory, and she also plays an important role in regaining his true self.
---

Caring about one guy her whole life. = Whore. Slut. Funny, Tifa knows nothing about Cloud and yet she is the woman who understands Cloud the best and is the only woman who knows his past.

 

[LicoriceAllsorts]

Isn't it great that this debate can rage for ever and ever amen? Wouldn't it be terrible if their publicists at Square Enix came out with a definitive statement either way? My 2 cents (and that's valuing it at more than it's worth, probably) is that Zack and Aerith are clearly together at the end of ACC, and since they have so much in common, both being dead and intertwined in the Lifestream, that seems to make sense. They go out through the church door together into the radiant light: how much more bride and groom symbolism do you need? As for Tifa, she ought to marry Mr Darcy.

 

[Channy]

OKAY PEOPLE, ANOTHER TL;DR COMING YOUR WAY. MY EYES ARE RESTED, AND MY FINGERS ARE JITTERY. GET READY FOR SOME NONSENSE.

And some of it probably won't make sense, as I came up with thoughts while reading the thread but may have forgotten them by now. I have such short term memory loss shit.

That's sad though. Kain, Rosa, and Cecil didn't need it. Celes and Locke didn't. Tidus and Yuna didn't. And neither did Garnet and Zidane.

Hell, Tidus and Yuna don't say "I love you" one time at all in the game, but it's pretty damn obvious "HAY GUIZ! TIDUS AND YUNA WANNA FUCK AND MAKE PYREFLY FAYTH BABIES!!11"

Why can't that level of sophistication and understanding be applied to FFVII?

I can't attest to any of the other couples because I haven't played the games. But as far as Tidus and Yuna goes, they do exchange 'I love you's'. Well, Yuna at least tells him anyway and then Tidus gets that devastated look on his face like "wtf tell me now?!" and then goes and hugs her. d'aww.

Plus Tidus and Yuna at least shared a kiss. For 17 year old's that's further than 20 year old's Cloud and Tifa made it anyway. PWNED

So? You can flirt with Rikku, Lulu, and Auron in FFX.

And depending on who you flirt with, you'll get an interesting and intimate sequence with one of the characters in Macalania while you ride the snow mobiles.

I had Lulu. But I wouldn't say it was intimate conversation.

Sweet God, the bullshit in this thread is stifling.

And the fun begins

So because she wears a skirt and a shirt....its an outfit not meant to save the world? Right. So I guess a woman's not allowed to look sexy and confident but a guy like Sephiroth can gallivant in a Shinra sponsored bondage outfit and flash his chest and beautifully shampooed hair while trying to destroy the world. Gotcha.

A skirt that shows her panties. And Yes, Aerith's dress is unbuttoned nearly that high too, I'm well aware of that. I'm also bothered that Tifa doesn't wear a bra, or at least gives the illusion she doesn't anyway as artwork/figures constantly show as if she just came out of a wet t shirt contest.

But don't even get me STARTED on Sephiroth. All that leather when running around can NOT be comfortable.

Can you please get the fuck out of the Victorian age, please? FFS, people in reality wear much worst. She dressed sexy for the man she was happy to see. How the hell is that abnormal? Are you Catholic or something? What bad message? That teenagers care about their looks when they're young and in love?

No. If you knew me at all you'd know Radical Feminism is my thing, and while I give props for Tifa for being her own woman, I liked her more in AC/C as she was being her own woman wearing tasteful clothes.

And no I'm not Catholic, I'm not the least bit religious actually. Where'd that come from?

Yeah, because fighting to save the world, wondering why the guy she liked was acting like a totally different person, and getting over the trauma of losing her family and village left plenty of opportunity to open up the can of worms of starting a relationship mid-fighting. Does that seriously make sense to you? And you really thought Tifa saw Aerith as competition and waited for her to die to make her move? Did even fucking play FFVII?

Sorry, I feel like I'm on clerith.com or something. This is ridiculous.

Well I mean why not? Isn't that what Cloti is based on? The fact that despite they knew eachother so well an shit, they can just pick up a relationship after a night of wild hot desert plain sex beneath the Highwind?

Yeah, because two adults having sex after realizing their love for each other, before the possible end of the world is such a terrible and sickening message.

It is for a lot off young gamers who play this game. And gamers are getting younger everyday.

To be honest, I thought you were trolling because I didn't think you'd have such rabid Clerith shipper madness ideas. But apparently you truly believe Tifa was happy Aerith died because now she could finally get Cloud to slip her the Buster Sword. That is so fucking backwards it hurts. Tifa felt horrible and depressed over Aerith's death and she'd never want that for her. Aerith and Tifa were friends. Good friends. And she did not see Aerith's death as a chance to finally fucking move in on Cloud. Where the hell did you get such a tasteless, character bashing idea?

It's not just rapid Clerith shipper madness, it's just an honest opinion Celes asked for. And the main ideal of these opinions have stayed with me since I first played VII when I was 12. When I opened the instruction booklet and saw Tifa first thing I thought was "How big are those boobs?" followed shortly by "Is she really a main heroine dressed like that?" Granted with VII's bad graphics it's not all apparent of how Tifa's dressed or offensive that much but it was a bit.

I have to call bullshit, hard. It's not everyday I can confront this batshit bullshit Clerith crap here.

Glad I could make your day. :3

You should. You're the closest thing to a "Destiny-Fulfilled" stormtrooper, so I sunk my fangs into you.

Part of me hopes thinks you're fucking around but whatever the case, such bizarre assertions and statements had to be addressed.

I'm actually not just fucking around. Crazy, huh?

^This times one-fucking-thousand.

It's such fucking bullshit. Especially when other men AND women wear shit that makes no sense and is clearly aesthetic or sexy. FFS, Sephiroth can wear German fetish gear, but Tifa gets chided over a fucking skirt? Get out of here with that shit.

Hell, look at Nero the Sable. Jesus.

This is where that double standard comes into play. Do guys ever get chided for how many women they sleep with? No. It makes them players. Do women? Yes, it makes them sluts.

So will a guy get chided for how he dresses? No, it makes him cool.

This idea is bullshit but it's been around for decades. And it sucks.

but I didn't vomit blood when I found out Aerith referred to Cloud as a koibito, despite it being surprising.

Was it a fountain of blood?

No, unless some Cleris comes and says:

"Can someone know Cloud better than living inside him, as portrayed in AC/C?"

7 years. But they've only been reunited about two weeks by the start of FFVII.

But two weeks is for true love

Two weeks so obviously gives you enough time to jump into a guy's head and justify your causes for sleeping with him.

I agree that some of her outfits are revealing, and it's a bit shocking given her age at those times, but at best, that only tells us that she lacks shyness/conservativeness (when it comes to her physical appearance anyway). It doesn't tell us anything about her level of sexual promiscuity. I wear revealing outfits sometimes, and I'm just about the most frigid bitch hereabouts

And anyway, "if you've got it, flaunt it" seems to be the motto in FFVII - Aerith flaunts her legs, Sephiroth flaunts his chest, RedXII flaunts his entire body (that slut)...

I can get behind 'If you've got it, flaunt it' because it's certainly not the first time I've heard it. Heck, most anime characters are dressed skankily as well. But I pretty much hold the same opinion for them as I do Tifa.

I guess the main point I forgot to address last night regarding skanky outfits, is how can anyone expect to take you seriously when you dress like that?

Don't even get me started on Red or Cait. VII is full of sluts I tell you.

Actually, I admire her for being able to come out with her feelings at all. I liked someone for 4 years, and never told them (alas for being a frigid bitch )

It just seemed long and drawn out imo.

NO other thoughts on her mind? The conversation that led up to the (possible) sex (I'm still only about 75% sure that sex under the Highwind occurred) dealt with a variety of thoughts: the upcoming battle, the Lifestream, the stars, etc, even personal philosophy.

"Gee Cloud, those stars sure are sparkly."
"Yeah."
"Wanna do it?"
"Yeah"

Bow chika bow wow

tl;dr: The foremost thought in Tifa's mind was how she could resolve Cloud's problem of not being able to express his love verbally, not how she could get laid so she wouldn't die a virgin.

Again, we don't know she's a virgin. Then again Cloud's probably a virgin, Aerith's a virgin, Sephiroth's a virgin, Lucrecia's a virgin. VII is filled with slutty virgins.

Tifa is obviously a slut. I mean, look at that outfit!

So are

Spoiler: Fran

,

Spoiler: Ashe

, and of course

Spoiler: Penelo

.

Only sluts would dress like that!

Actually when XII-2 came out I thought it odd how Penelo shed half her clothing. Then again I didn't much care for her during XII as it is. She was far too annoyingly useless.

Now I'm probly going to town soon so I'll get back to another 3 pages of random meme crap.

 

[Isabella]

This is where that double standard comes into play. Do guys ever get chided for how many women they sleep with? No. It makes them players. Do women? Yes, it makes them sluts.

So will a guy get chided for how he dresses? No, it makes him cool.

This idea is bullshit but it's been around for decades. And it sucks.

If you think it sucks, then why are you perpetuating it?

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

Again, we don't know she's a virgin. Then again Cloud's probably a virgin, Aerith's a virgin, Sephiroth's a virgin, Lucrecia's a virgin. VII is filled with slutty virgins.

WAITAMINUTE didn't she birth Sephiroth? IMMACULATE CONCEPTION!

Actually when XII-2 came out I thought it odd how Penelo shed half her clothing. Then again I didn't much care for her during XII as it is. She was far too annoyingly useless.

What about the other two sluts, Ashe and Fran? Huh? HUH?

 

[Celes Chere]

I had Lulu. But I wouldn't say it was intimate conversation.

I got Rikku.

A skirt that shows her panties.

When in any FF, did you see Tifa's panties? I know I saw Rikku's from FFX-2 quite often. But no-ones calling her a slut. Maybe because she isn't one. *gasp*

It is for a lot off young gamers who play this game. And gamers are getting younger everyday.

Yeah, but it's rated T for TEEN. If kids are playing it, blame the parents.

it's just an honest opinion

And I appreciate the honest opinion you shared. I don't understand it, but if it's how you feel, it's how you feel. Though, I can only hope it changes someday. ^^;

I thought it odd how Ashe shed half her clothing. Then again I didn't much care for her during XII as it is. She was far too annoyingly useless.

Fixed.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

I got Rikku.

Her convo was sweet, imo. Cuddling Tidus and all that.

 

[crack]

Why the fuck are we bringing up religion here?

Tifa is not a slut. Unless, if she is, Aerith is also one, considering that her buttons are unloose almost halfway. Nomura just likes his girls to be sexy, but that doesn't mean they're sluts.

 

[Channy]

If you think it sucks, then why are you perpetuating it?

Because its trufax?

WAITAMINUTE didn't she birth Sephiroth? IMMACULATE CONCEPTION!

What about the other two sluts, Ashe and Fran? Huh? HUH?

OH SNAP SHE FOUND ME OUT

I didn't like Ashe because she was far too boring. Anything that spewed out of her mouth was mindless drabble. Anytime I played XII there was a big black square over her body and a "wrah wrah wraaaa" sound playing. And Fran's slutty too. But I hated XII of a game, so I don't bother talking about it.

When in any FF, did you see Tifa's panties? I know I saw Rikku's from FFX-2 quite often. But no-ones calling her a slut. Maybe because she isn't one. *gasp*

You wear a skirt like that an tell me you aren't afraid of showing off your gonch. Also low res graphix hide panties

Yeah, but it's rated T for TEEN. If kids are playing it, blame the parents.

eh

And I appreciate the honest opinion you shared. I don't understand it, but if it's how you feel, it's how you feel. Though, I can only hope it changes someday. ^^;

See it was mostly for you since you asked for an honest opinion on why I don't like her.

 

[Dawnbreaker]

A woman's clothing does not make her a slut.

That said, I still hate what she's dressed in, but the same is true of Aerith so...

 

[Isabella]

Because its trufax?

NO. Misogyny is not "trufax." That's like saying racism sucks, but you'll continue to be racist because that's just the way life is.