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looneymoon

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

Wooooah. *Japanese overload*

I don't know a whole lot about Japanese (other than Engrish, but that's just when I'm being an obnoxious jerk), but the koibito thing is just silly. Kaoru is Kenshin's koibito, Miaka is Tamahome's koibito, Tifa is Cloud's koibito etc. It just seems like it's sort of a given in Japan, and doesn't require any sort of speculation.

....Unless Nomura meant Tifa was like this weird thing I found on google-image search but er... I don't think so.

edit: Fortunately, or unfortunately however you look at it, this is the one topic of the FF7 fandom that has always bought the most lulz
 
Fighter

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

[quote author=looneymoon link=topic=53.msg1261#msg1261 date=1228860063]
....Unless Nomura meant Tifa was like this weird thing I found on google-image search but er... I don't think so.[/quote]

LMAO! There are two kinds of 'koi':

? = carp
? = love

So I'm guessing that picture is ?? = fishperson, or something.
 
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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

[quote author=Fighter link=topic=53.msg1265#msg1265 date=1228861528]
[quote author=looneymoon link=topic=53.msg1261#msg1261 date=1228860063]
....Unless Nomura meant Tifa was like this weird thing I found on google-image search but er... I don't think so.[/quote]

LMAO! There are two kinds of 'koi':

? = carp
? = love

So I'm guessing that picture is ?? = fishperson, or something.
[/quote]Aren't "carp" and "love" the same thing to the Clerii?  :monster:
 
Strangelove

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

I haz the most popular topic?
Never underestimate the power of repeating yourself :monster:

Something other examples of koibitos I can remember:
- Kevin from Xenosaga is Shion's (former) koibito
- Japanese dub of Supersize Me I saw on Niconico Douga had the 'Alex' woman credited as Morgan's koibito
- Romeo and Juliet are young koibito
- Kiyomi Takeda is Light Yagami's koibito in Death Note

- ... Zack and Aerith :monster:
 
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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

Cuse my lack of the compilation knowledge but...didn't Cloud having sex with Tifa under the highwind end this question altogether? cos all i remember was that piece of evidence being shoved in my face over and over in the old love triangle thread.
 
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[quote author=Fighter link=topic=53.msg587#msg587 date=1228383505]
Hi,

My friend Noriko told me Cloud loves Aerith. Because in Japanese culture boobs are evil and tragic.
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didn't Cloud having sex with Tifa under the highwind end this question altogether?
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Cloud having sex with Tifa on national TV wouldn't end this question for some people.
 
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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

LOL! Cloud getting raped by Tifa. Surprised that doesn't get tossed around more often. :duhard:
 
Ryushikaze

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

[quote author=Fighter link=topic=53.msg1258#msg1258 date=1228859281]
Before considering whether Nomura used 'koi___bito' the traditional way or some modern slang way it would be nice to actually see a credible example of the latter even existing.
[/quote]

It are exists out Bizzarro Japan! Bizzarro Nomura am use Koi_Bito lots much!

[quote author=ForceStealer link=topic=53.msg1260#msg1260 date=1228859350]
I can't believe this is our biggest topic, I thought we were above this discussion, lol.:-\
[/quote]

We're above discussion, but mockery of the absurd is a glorious past time. The pinkers are simple exceptionally large targets, what with their propensity towards absurdities, hypocrisies, fanciful inventions, and the like.

[quote author=null link=topic=53.msg1292#msg1292 date=1228871456]
LOL! Cloud getting raped by Tifa. Surprised that doesn't get tossed around more often. :duhard:
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Can't rape the willing, my good man.

Another example, that everyone ignores ::curse them!:: is Rosa being Cecil's Koibito. But Rosa is not Kain's koibito, even though Kain has feelings for Rosa.

As for Carp and Love being the same, don't forget, Clownfish are also Carp.
 
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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

I assume Rosa as "koibito" is from the FFIV manual? The part in English where she's described as *ahem* Cecil's childhood sweetheart.
 
looneymoon

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

Oh wow. I didn't realize those things were supposed to be koi people. Wtf... Japan ceases to amaze me in the invention of supremely odd things.

LOL! Cloud getting raped by Tifa. Surprised that doesn't get tossed around more often.
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you'd be surprised the amount of things you can find by simply googling "rule 34"
 
Isabella

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

You guys are missing the point. Nomura didn't specify who Tifa's a koibito to, meaning she's a koibito to anyone and everyone, even the children. It's his way of acknowledging she's a big-boobed slut.
 
Ryushikaze

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But anyone and everyone DOES Include Cloud.

And Aerith.

I see nothing wrong with this.
 
Celes Chere

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

[quote author=null link=topic=53.msg1296#msg1296 date=1228871770]
I assume Rosa as "koibito" is from the FFIV manual? The part in English where she's described as *ahem* Cecil's childhood sweetheart.
[/quote]

That of course must mean that Rosa was only Cecil's love in the past since if you love someone in the past, it is NEVER possible for it to develop into something more.

Too bad for Clerith fans, then. CloAe is the past. :monster:

 
Ryushikaze

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

[quote author=null link=topic=53.msg1296#msg1296 date=1228871770]
I assume Rosa as "koibito" is from the FFIV manual? The part in English where she's described as *ahem* Cecil's childhood sweetheart.
[/quote]

The manual, the website, the Ulti, the other Ulti...

[quote author=CelesChere link=topic=53.msg1309#msg1309 date=1228879993]
That of course must mean that Rosa was only Cecil's love in the past since if you love someone in the past, it is NEVER possible for it to develop into something more.[/quote]

Naturally. Which is why their twelve year marriage and similarly aged son are incredibly akward.

Too bad for Clerith fans, then. CloAe is the past. :monster:
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Vincent and Lucrecia too. That's been gone far longer than five years. Why isn't Vincent over it yet? Hasn't he read HitoBito's book?
 
Lily Ella

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Isabella said:
It's his way of acknowledging she's a big-boobed slut.
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I thought that it was just Nomura confessing that he's a hippie. He's all for free love and flowers~
 
Strangelove

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

[quote author=null link=topic=53.msg1296#msg1296 date=1228871770]
I assume Rosa as "koibito" is from the FFIV manual? The part in English where she's described as *ahem* Cecil's childhood sweetheart.
[/quote]
I checked the website for the DS remake, where they called her the same as what Tifa is called for childhood friend ('osananajimi'). Although Google tells me people call her Cecil's koibito (or Cecil Rosa's).

But now I want the game :monster:

Ryushikaze said:
Can't rape the willing, my good man.
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Didn't you see his blank stare? Those ellipsis?

He was royally pissed at the whole ordeal.
 
Makoeyes987

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You know, speaking of FFIV: The After,

It'd be pretty hilarious if the next Compilation title was FFVII: The After, and Cloud and Tifa had a daughter :monster:

God, that sure would break some hearts. Talk about an awkward step with a childhood sweetheart who's the "sweetheart" towards everyone, including Barret. I mean, what about poor Barret? He's part of the family, right?
 
Strangelove

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No one cares about Barret except when he's thwarting Tifa's sexual advances towards Cloud by living with them.

It's all you damned Clotis, breaking into SE with your ninjas and manliness and excuding him from his rightful place as third wheel to this 'family of friends'.
 
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[quote author=hitoshura link=topic=53.msg1372#msg1372 date=1228932977]
I checked the website for the DS remake, where they called her the same as what Tifa is called for childhood friend ('osananajimi'). Although Google tells me people call her Cecil's koibito (or Cecil Rosa's).
But now I want the game :monster: [/quote]

Here's the english manual (p. 5)

http://www.tendoweb.com/Manuals/SNES/Final%20Fantasy%202.pdf

I've been curious how the J manual words it. Does osananajimi have any romantic connotation to it?
 
Strangelove

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

Maybe not in and of itself. Two guys can be just osananajimi and not mean anything. But as opposite sex osananajimi, it is a romantic cliché (and for two guys if it's that kind of story).
 
Ryushikaze

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

So they can name her Aerith and the pinkers can claim it's the reincarnation of Aerith, and all sorts of ackward can come of it.

But really, making further parallel between Ce/Ro and Cl/Ti would be hilarious.
 
Celes Chere

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

[quote author=Ryushikaze link=topic=53.msg1396#msg1396 date=1228945344]
So they can name her Aerith and the pinkers can claim it's the reincarnation of Aerith, and all sorts of ackward can come of it.

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Some already claim that Marlene is the symolism of Aerith, and since Marlene *loves* Denzel who is like Cloud, it's clearly showing that CloudxAerith is canon!

Too bad it was stated that Marlene acts like Tifa, and only looks like Aerith. :monster:

The whole idea was bizzare, anyway.
 
Makoeyes987

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Re: Love Triangle Discussion

[quote author=lonestar link=topic=53.msg1395#msg1395 date=1228944224]
It'd be pretty hilarious if the next Compilation title was FFVII: The After, and Cloud and Tifa had a daughter
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Why a daughter? :monster:
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I just think it'd be a lot cooler if Cloud had a daughter instead of a son. I just don't find the prospect of Cloud gaining a miniature version of himself as interesting as him being the over protect yet gentle father figure. Then she could be a kickass daughter like her dad and mom :monster:
 
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