The Hobbit

Xelazander

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Ah no you're right, been a long time since I've read the books. Thought he might be something brought back that was missed from LOTR though
 

Dana Scully

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Just preordered my tickets for Friday.

eeeeee so excited

:otterkat:
 

Captain Jack Harkness

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just came back home..... i regret nothing :neo:
well, i've just finish to read the Silmarillion, so for me the film was a bit different compared to my two friends who see it with me.
damn, i'm in love with Elrond
well, some scenes are taken from the unfinished tales and similar things. Jackson just added them for a 'greater view' of what was happening
i think the third one would be more about the fight with the Necromancer and the last things of the hobbit
ok, there isn't Tom Bombadil, but now is canon that the Istari (except Saruman) are almost always ripped :D
 

Morello

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I am also in love with Elrond.

I enjoyed most of the film but I did fall asleep for a couple of minutes in the middle. And it was a bit of a shock when it ended because I didn't know it was part one of three. I thought most of the main actors were good, but a lot of the additions -
Radagast's bunny chariot, that orc directing the chase, all the almost-falling-off-cliff scenes
- weren't necessary. I think I'd like to see a single film version of the whole book.
 

Lex

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Saw it, enjoyed it immensely. I'm just not 100% sure about whether or not I ZOMG TOTALLY LOVED IT yet. It's been years upon years since I last read the book but my critic sense was tingling in a few parts.

I also hate it when movies put like a super super focus on eating/drinking, it creeps me out for some reason. Like at the start where all the dwarves are chowing down and slurping away, there was a lot of unnecessary focus on the mouth and beard drippage.

But that's just a weird thing I have and completely irrelevant to the plot of the movie, which I liked :monster:
 

Tetsujin

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Copypasta'd from my tumblr:

My “The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey” review

It was pretty good. I’m not saying “awesome” but pretty good.
Even though I usually like epically long movies, this one did feel like it did drag on a bit at times and I think if they cut out 20 - 30 minutes the pace would’ve been better. But of course, an extended edition has already been announced that is actually 20 - 30 minutes *longer*. And I’m gonna buy it anyway.

I did like the lighthearted adventure feel of the movie (some people went in expecting it to be just as serious and epic as LotR - considering the lighter source material, you really shouldn’t. Even then, the movie is not without its obligatory orc beheadings).
It does have a fair amount of humor and slapstick moments.

About the dwarves…there’s so many of them that I quickly forgot who is who with the exceptions of one or two. They don’t get a lot of time to develop their characters and most of the focus is really on the leader of the group, Thorin. Maybe they’ll get more time to shine as individuals in the next two movies?

Bilbo and Gandalf were very enjoyable and Gollum with his mixture of being pitiful yet also funny yet also creepy was great as usual.

Also, 48 frames per second. Opinions are mixed and it definitely seems to be something people should check out themselves (if available at their cinemas).
My opinion: I was positively surprised. I feared it would have that soap opera/home video effect and cheapen the look of the movie but for the most part it didn’t.
I say for the most part because at close-ups and when the camera moved around or shook a lot, it did seem a bit odd and “home video”-like. Every now and then some scenes also seemed to have a strange sped-up look.
But for the most part the higher frame rate created a really smooth look that I thought was very pleasant to view especially in combination with 3D. I was never a big proponent for 3D, quite the opposite. But here I thought it wasn’t actually bad at all.
The high frame rate really shines in the scenes where the camera sweeps over the beautiful landscapes or zooms through caverns. The clarity here is just amazing. CG-heavy scenes also looked pretty good in 48fps, mostly I guess because I was used to higher frame rates from video games so this felt more natural.

My verdict: B+
 

Captain Jack Harkness

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i saw it in Imax 3D at 48 FPS. one day after Christmas i'll go to watch it again in a normal cinema with other friends, so i'll be able to make a confront :)
 

Lex

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I saw it in IMAX 3D at 48FPS on what they say is "Scotland's biggest cinema screen". I mean it's pretty damn huge, we had to queue to make sure we got a seat in the middle. I tend to do that in normal cinema's anyway, but this screen is really big:

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Anyway that was a tangeant. I didn't notice the "home video" effect but I did notice what looked like a drag/blur in the first scene with the dwarves in Bilbo's house. Other than that it was pretty.
 

anothercid

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Anyone else watched it at 48 FPS? Seeing that that was a big point and all, :monster:

I will be, but sadly my local is only doing the 48 FPS showings in 3-D. I've seen little bits of it (I work in a cinema) and either it makes the 3-D look extra ridiculous, or the film just has really bad 3-D.
 

X-SOLDIER

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Kuroto

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I also saw it in 48fps and I wrote about it here. I'm planning on seeing it on 2D as well. :awesome:

My opinion, if you have to see this movie on 3D, see it in 48fps rather than the normal 3D.
 

Tennyo

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Is this movie worth my spending money on a ticket to see it in the theater?

Why am I even asking I'll go see it anyway silly me...
 

Tetsujin

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I already commented on how for once I actually thought 3D was bearable/doing anything for me in the first place in this movie combined with the 48fps.

But...

Special mention to the moment when Smaug's eye opened at the end of the movie and it was like it was actually popping out of the screen AND STARING INTO MY SOUL.
 

Theozilla

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Loved the film, I can understand how it could be too long for some people's tastes (evidently, a lot of professional critic feel that way). But as a fantasy story and adaptation I loved it.
 

Cthulhu

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Random theory, but I think they had to make the movie 'feel' longer so they could fill three movies of them; if they'd still be going for two, there'd be a lot less sluggishness in the movie. But then, it'd probably feel rushed and not do the book justice, :monster:.
 
OK, someone answer me one thing:
In Fellowship, Gimli's all "Let's go through Moria! We'll have a great feast!!" etc. etc. So he obviously doesn't know it's overrun for some reason. Now in The Hobbit, clearly the Dwarves know it's overrun, since they attempt to take it back 60 years before Fellowship. Obviously Gimli has some sort of high standing in the Dwarves since he went to Rivendell, so, WHY does he not know? It kinda annoyed me in Fellowship since he said his cousin? unkle? something, was the ruler. Now in The Hobbit tho, it's just irritating me. Is Gimili just an uninformed dumbass?
 

Kuroto

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I did a quick reaserch of the subject, because it has been troubling me too.
It seems that after the war between dwarves and orcs Balin gathered a group of dwarves and went to Moria with the thought of restoring it. That was 30 years before the fellowship arrives there. That is all that anyone seemed to know at the point when the fellowship went there, and they didn't know whether Balin was alive or not, or if they would find orcs or goblins. Quick reading of my copy of the Lord of the Rings tells me that in the book it wasn't Gimli, but Gandalf, who suggested that the fellowship would go through the mines, to which Gimli says that he would be happy to follow, although he doesn't know what they'll find.

I'd say that the case is quite the same in the movie as well. So Gimli knows only that his cousin, Balin, went to Moria, but in the movie Gimli thinks (or hopes) that they are still alive and have restored Moria, at least partly if not complitely.

That was my quick reaserch of the subject so if anyone has something to say or correct, please do so. :)
 

X-SOLDIER

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You're rather correct, Kuroto.

Essentially Thror goes to see Moria, and they get attacked by Goblins & Orcs, which is the "Battle of Azanulbizar" which is the event that you see in the film, where Azog kills Thror. (In the book Azog is slain here, and Azog's son Bolg is the one attempting to take revenge, but for the narrative story in the film, I can see why they kept him alive).

Essentially, because of the significant losses that the dwarves sustained during the battle, and because Dain had seen the Balrog "Durin's Bane" (which is rather famous for driving the dwarves out of their kingdom in Moria originally), they didn't attempt to reclaim Moria after that battle. It was barely a victory for the dwarves, and essentially each side got massacred. (This is also a big point about Thorin's father Thrain, but just be aware that that article will reveal a number of things that you're going to see in the second film, like how Gandalf got the key from him, and some other goings ons).

It's AFTER the events of The Hobbit that Balin takes some of his kin and goes to take back Moria, which is why Gimli suggests it in LotR, and why he heavily mourns when they find Balin's tomb. (Another moment in Fellowship that's going to be much more emotionally hard hitting, after getting to know Balin so well in the Hobbit trilogy).

Also, this is what's yet to happen, from the preview images that had been released in a banner earlier:

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