The Legend of Zelda (General)

[Alexia Ashford]

I do understand the concepts and whatnot but yeah.


And that would be a sad story if the OC made it all the way to the final battle and lost because he wasn't the chosen hero. I made myself sad. XD
But I think the triforce and Mastersword are kinda required to kill him.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

But seriously, Zelda is supposed to be extremely wise, hence the Triforce of Wisdom, but I never really see her doing anything that's that smart.

I always used Zelda's wisdom to explain the end of OoT actually. Its why she didn't send Link back and let him prevent Ganondorf's takeover the moment he awoke in the future, she KNEW it would lead to split-timeline fuckery. She needed him to take out Ganondorf in what was to her the present, before sending Link back to prevent the takeover in the past. That way both time-lines end up free (at least until Ganondorf comes back and floods/darkness happen)

 

[Alexia Ashford]

But she didn't tell Link any of this. She sent him back and hoped he'd figure it out. So he spends 5 minutes telling the King that Ganon is evil and then goes off to find Navi who just deserted him completely for no adequately explained reason.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I do understand the concepts and whatnot but yeah.


And that would be a sad story if the OC made it all the way to the final battle and lost because he wasn't the chosen hero. I made myself sad. XD

Nah, part of the story is the hero eventually having to prove himself worthy to use the sword.
After awhile, it lets him slip back and forth, but will not unleash itself.
So he uses the Biggoron sword as an adult, and a broken medigoron knife as a kid.

But I think the triforce and Mastersword are kinda required to kill him.

Technically yes and no.
In that instance, it was the only sword capable (due to coding fuckery. GRRR), but the Four sword has killed ganon as well, in FSA.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

okay so: to me it makes sense there'd be multiple timelines (i'd thought two rather than three? but i guess the third can be explained by link rejecting zelda's offer to travel back in time and i guess fucking off entirely due to a deep need to just chill) and the whole flooding thing would be really hard to explain in a single timeline! cause honestly, flooding an entire country would take a long time and the fact they said it had been 100 years since oot means that if tp had been in the timeline, it'd have to be a massive, sudden flood with no reason whatsoever.

also zelda is pretty wise: i mean, there's most of her quiet tacticianing (is that a word wow) in tp, a lot of her action-y stuff in windwaker, and oot really only shows her being a little less than wise, but in the end her decisions were pretty wise idk. (i can't speak for any other games i have beaten cause honestly she had two second cameos in those)

 

[Ryushikaze]

okay so: to me it makes sense there'd be multiple timelines (i'd thought two rather than three? but i guess the third can be explained by link rejecting zelda's offer to travel back in time and i guess fucking off entirely due to a deep need to just chill) and the whole flooding thing would be really hard to explain in a single timeline! cause honestly, flooding an entire country would take a long time and the fact they said it had been 100 years since oot means that if tp had been in the timeline, it'd have to be a massive, sudden flood with no reason whatsoever.

There have two be two timelines for another reason too- IIRC, Twilight is supposed to also be ~100 years after OoT.

Plus, there's another ~80 some years to Spirit Tracks in New Hyrule.

 

[Alexia Ashford]

spirit tracks is horrible and doesn't exist in my mind.

 

[Zee]

But seriously, Zelda is supposed to be extremely wise, hence the Triforce of Wisdom, but I never really see her doing anything that's that smart.

er well this is the girl who discovered a clever way to hide herself from ganondorf and aid link at the same time.

i mean i think her triforce gift is more related to her psychic abilities (like her precognition) that aids in her ability to make sound judgments rather than just making her super brainy and all princess bubblegum-ish.

 

[Alessa Gillespie]

i mean i think her triforce gift is more related to her psychic abilities (like her precognition) that aids in her ability to make sound judgments rather than just making her super brainy and all princess bubblegum-ish.

but wouldnt it be wonderful if zelda was princess bubblegum-ish

 

[Ryushikaze]

er well this is the girl who discovered a clever way to hide herself from ganondorf and aid link at the same time.

i mean i think her triforce gift is more related to her psychic abilities (like her precognition) that aids in her ability to make sound judgments rather than just making her super brainy and all princess bubblegum-ish.

Yeah, the triforce bestows gifts that aid those who display its affinity, rather than simply granting courage wisdom and power. Link isn't a coward who's granted courage, he embodies courage, and that's why that triforce picks him.

but wouldnt it be wonderful if zelda was princess bubblegum-ish

There's already a significant Midna/Zelda contingent, and Link can be Finn and Jake...

I think we're golden here folks.

 

[Pixel]

I like the idea of skyward sword being the origine story, but it would be interesting to see one that even predates that, showing the technological civilisation we get glimpses of. How they created Fi etc

Id also love to see a story showing the origine of Dark Link. I think that would be really interesting. Maybe if one incarnation of link made bad choices and got his hands on the triforce, using it to make himself more powerful or something. Then its up to the next incarnation to stop him

 

[Ryushikaze]

I like the idea of skyward sword being the origine story, but it would be interesting to see one that even predates that, showing the technological civilisation we get glimpses of. How they created Fi etc

I still think Minish came before Skyward, but yes, a story of the Magipunk Hyrule when they were in the height of their society before the grand calamity would be interesting.

Id also love to see a story showing the origine of Dark Link. I think that would be really interesting. Maybe if one incarnation of link made bad choices and got his hands on the triforce, using it to make himself more powerful or something. Then its up to the next incarnation to stop him

IIRC, there is no 'origin' of Dark Link, he's always just been a reflection of Link created from evil magic.
But a Link falling to darkness through a sacrificial act and needing to be taken down by the replacement might be interesting.

Or hell, by Zelda. Let's give one of them the starring role for the first time No, there were never two games starring Zelda for the CDI. Stop lying.

 

[Zee]

Spoiler

oh

suddenly i understand everything

 

[ForceStealer]

Are you being sarcastic? Is that one any different?

 

[Zee]

having an actual key rather than random swords makes it a lot more understandable tbh

then again i don't pay attention to the timeline details ever so something like this is nice for me hoo hoo

 

[Octo]

Am I the only one who is happy enough if Zelda doesn't have any kind of timeline? I mean, its not like we've been given any specific dates is it? So its possible that eons and eons could pass so that any kind of historical records could be lost, or any kind of evolutionary cycle could have changed?

I suppose what I am saying is that I find it refreshing that the Zelda series doesn't adhere to any sort of chronology, because thats boring man

 

[Zee]

iirc Miyamoto doesn't even really care about the timeline either, but for some reason fans REALLY do.

 

[Strangelove]

bitches nerds love timelines

 

[Octo]

I think its more interesting when you can put your own spin on things. I think Miyamoto has the right idea, because otherwise he would end up in a creative cul-de-sac. He wouldn't have been able to take Zelda in all the different interesting directions if he'd pinned himself down to a timeline.

 

[ForceStealer]

I don't care there's a timeline or not. I just think it's fun to think about...

Hell I haven't even played that many Zelda games.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Spoiler

oh

suddenly i understand everything

This now confuses me. Where is the 'missing link' between PH and Spirit Tracks?

What's the timeline connection between Link's Awakening and Zelda 1?

 

[ForceStealer]

Wasn't Link's Awakening all just a dream anyway?

 

[Ryushikaze]

Wasn't Link's Awakening all just a dream anyway?

Yes, but not Link's.

Plus, the beginning and the very end actually happened- a real Link was in a real shipwreck and saw a real flying whale thing afterwards.

 

[Theozilla]

bitches nerds love timelines

Do they ever If it is inconsequential to enjoyment of the games themselves by nerd-logic that means it must be the most important awesomest thing evan!

But to be fair everyone has their own nerdish hobby, and I personally like the new timeline.

 

[Tetsujin]

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