The Love Triangle Debate: Another Turn in the Cycle

[T@ctic]

...

what?

he said he had to leave before it would get "too late" and i meant to say that-

well just skip it; it wasnt important

 

[Kermitu Kleric Katie]

Regarding how Cloud "Wavered" between the two heroines, does anyone else feel like whatever of the many influences on disc 1 Cloud's persona is most potent influenced which heroine he would waver towards at the time? Like, when Zack was having the biggest influence he would waver towards Aerith, but when the real him did he would waver towards Tifa? I just had that thoughtin my head, and I couldn't resist poasting it.

Also, I have to say, I really appreciate how cheerful Tifa and Aerith are in spite of what they've gone through. I'm especially amazed that Tifa doesn't seem to be suffering from PTSD in spite of having her hometown destroyed and everyone she knew killed in the process. It just goes to show how strong their wills are.

 

[Dashell]

Tifa and Aerith are literally two of the strongest heroines in video game history. Period.

 

[Lord Kesharq]

I just dont know anymore....i used to be dead set on aerith being the one...but now ugh.

To me personally aerith will always be the one that was ment to be with cloud..and if she had not died then am pretty much 100% sure they would have ended up going the whole way, but yeah for now anyway, unless they do a aerith returns game or something then i can only guess that they will be together again in the lifestream when cloud life is finally over.

just my view on this lol.

 

[Selphie Tilmitt]

Hello and welcome to the Lifestream Net! I want your first experience of The Lifestream Net to be a positive one since all the other Cleriths keep running away saying it's scary or something, so yeah welcome and Merry Christmas!

I thanked your post because it's nice to see another Clerith here even if I don't agree entirely 100% with what you said, even if it does also sound kind of plausible to me as a Clerith fan kind of too/also, yes I am a confused person.

Merry Christmas, have some arts! -

http://fc03.deviantart.net/fs7/f/2006/347/a/9/Cloud_and_Aerith_Christmas_by_MorningStar83.jpg

Or you know -

http://image.blingee.com/images17/content/output/000/000/000/61f/547030384_1292222.gif

I don't know why Yuffie is there, I didn't invite her, she kind of ninjad her way in!

*cough*

Spoiler

Clerifa ftw!

*cough*

 

[Farron]

I just dont know anymore....i used to be dead set on aerith being the one...but now ugh.

To me personally aerith will always be the one that was ment to be with cloud..and if she had not died then am pretty much 100% sure they would have ended up going the whole way, but yeah for now anyway, unless they do a aerith returns game or something then i can only guess that they will be together again in the lifestream when cloud life is finally over.

just my view on this lol.

It's okay to be Clerith. If you prefer Cloud to be with Aerith there is nothing wrong with that.

imo, anyways

and no no no no no no no no no no with the Aerith Returns idea, sorry, but bringing Aerith back to life would just spoil the tragedy and sadness of her loss.

 

[Lord Kesharq]

yeah i do confess to being a Clerith fan lol..been this way since i first played though the whole game, and still the same now lol.
(Cheers for the welcome guys btw )

Lol Farron, i think we can both agree she is dead and staying dead, the idea of a Aerith returns game is just a personal fan idea of mine lol, we all know it will never happen (unless i become a super skilled computer programer and then made a version xD)

And yeah iv read loads on this subject over time, and in all fairness i really do think they whole LTD has no winner at the end of the day due to the fact that is is left open to the player to decide.

 

[Ryushikaze]

... But it's not.

It's NOT open. You have no choice. Cloud has a choice. And he very clearly makes it. He makes it by moving in with and starting a family. By going home to where he belongs at the end of Advent Children, back to his family. Back to the woman he's had a crush on since before his balls dropped.

 

[Dashell]

... But it's not.

It's NOT open. You have no choice. Cloud has a choice. And he very clearly makes it. He makes it by moving in with and starting a family. By going home to where he belongs at the end of Advent Children, back to his family. Back to the woman he's had a crush on since before his balls dropped.

But there's Clerith deserts! Explain that!

 

[Ryushikaze]

But there's Clerith deserts! Explain that!

Okay.

Marketing.

QED.

Seriously, though, we've all been over how fucking little marketing and subsidiary products mean for EVERYTHING.

 

[Gym Leader Devil]

Pretty sure she was being mockingly facetious there Ryu. You're supposed to laugh Also welcome back to active posting, shoulda known we just needed someone to say the LTD was all up to interpretation and you'd come a'runnin to smite them down.

 

[Master Bates]

Just want to say my heartfelt gratitude to Tres, the God of Cloti, for quoting me in his insightful analysis. It is a great honor and a pleasant privilege.

Happy New Year, Everyone! May the electronic bloodbath and racking of exhausted brains not stop in the year 2014. Cheers~

 

[looneymoon]

I label myself as a radical Clerith for political reasons.

Down with the systemic Cloti supremacy. Kill your oppressors.

 

[Dashell]

Anyone got a translation for this?

I think I see the usual Cloud/Tifa childhood friends thing... but OMG the cuteness

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

It's nothing too special, but here you go:

----
Ultra Rare+ Cloud (with Tifa assist)

REVEALED!!

A new Legend type in which Tifa performs an EX move in response to calling Cloud, kupo!
----

 

[Dashell]

She calls Cloud kupo?

But thanks anyway.

 

[Strangelove]

i would say it's cloud calling tifa, who performs an ex move

 

[Selphie Tilmitt]

Aww I wanted to do it

Well -

(WARNING IMAGE FLOOD!)

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/tokyo_megaten/status/418196748289339392/photo/1


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https://twitter.com/gurennnoni/status/409212326265368576/photo/1

https://twitter.com/amana0704/status/409138783431303168/photo/1

https://twitter.com/1stPD_PR/status/409288499552980992/photo/1

https://twitter.com/ippiki_shizuka/status/408249029030465536/photo/1

https://twitter.com/amana0704/status/405723367002484737/photo/1

https://twitter.com/amana0704/status/405723432198742016/photo/1

http://p.twpl.jp/show/large/qJ0jR

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http://p.twpl.jp/show/large/0IQ56

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http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/...raLightningRikkuandYunabanner_zpsb6b19c92.jpg

New Year Zerith!

Clerith date/scenes!

Cloti action!

Happy New Years!

 

[Danseru-kun]

^

Are the sky and flowers in the church scene the part where Zack died? Anyway thanks for the pics, I'm sharing them in tumblr and I'm crediting you of course :>

 

[Selphie Tilmitt]

Thanks

Spoiler

You know ... I'm not sure ... there's something about a smile, people were saying it was either about the iconic Aerith was smiling till the end line or it was Cloud telling Aerith he finally smiled, and the words with the cloud/sky scene was something to with "hero" but since my Crisic Core, etc knowledge is kind of lacking if there's anything to with Zack and smiles, and I know there is the hero stuff with Zack and Zack/Cloud anyway .... I suppose it easily could be about when Zack died or as well ... some kind of OT3 mix maybe

 

[Strangelove]

It's Cloud's line about Aerith's smile from near the end of the game.

Spoiler

https://twitter.com/tokyo_megaten/status/418196748289339392/photo/1
- new years greeting and asking that people keep on playing the game this year too

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/BaI95PtCUAA9W_x.png
- heroine popularity contest

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Baz47b5CEAAbm9F.png
- "Aerith smiled at the end." or w/e it was

https://twitter.com/amana0704/status/409138783431303168/photo/1
- "The sky is scary/I'm afraid of the sky" (CC reference)

https://twitter.com/1stPD_PR/status/409288499552980992/photo/1
- "Let's go, everyone!" (end of FFVII)

https://twitter.com/amana0704/status/405723432198742016/photo/1
- "Would you say I became a hero?" (CC reference)

http://p.twpl.jp/show/large/qJ0jR
http://p.twpl.jp/show/large/bwlsP
- "Hey, Cloud. I want to meet you."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Bau4arNCYAAoL7N.png
- "The Girl Who Prays to the Planet - Conditions of [being] A Hero"

http://i658.photobucket.com/albums/...raLightningRikkuandYunabanner_zpsb6b19c92.jpg
- "Christmas Eve Celebration in the Kingdom"

 

[Strangelove]

double posting for thoughts

Spoiler: spoilers for 'ffx -will-'/the hd remaster bonus audio drama

i'm sure anyone who has seen this debate will have seen the whole 'look how bad cloud and tifa's relationship is in otwtas, she has to ask if he loves her, they're obviously not romantic at all, that's not how couples act, square wouldn't do that' kind of thing from way back when (it's almost 9 years ago now!).

flashforward to 2014 and we have the hd ffx/x-2, where the bonus audio drama has yuna and tidus having relationship troubles. they don't seem to be living together for a while, yuna doesn't know how he's doing. yuna saying she's found another person she likes.

ignoring that cloud and tifa get through their issues (that was like the story of ac), here's an established couple that nojima wrote where he's all 'i'm going to fuck shit up here and make drama'

i'm not really going anywhere with this

just don't you think that's

interesting

 

[jazzflower92]

Romantic Plot Tumor here we come.

 

[Splintered]

double posting for thoughts

Spoiler: spoilers for 'ffx -will-'/the hd remaster bonus audio drama

i'm sure anyone who has seen this debate will have seen the whole 'look how bad cloud and tifa's relationship is in otwtas, she has to ask if he loves her, they're obviously not romantic at all, that's not how couples act, square wouldn't do that' kind of thing from way back when (it's almost 9 years ago now!).

flashforward to 2014 and we have the hd ffx/x-2, where the bonus audio drama has yuna and tidus having relationship troubles. they don't seem to be living together for a while, yuna doesn't know how he's doing. yuna saying she's found another person she likes.

ignoring that cloud and tifa get through their issues (that was like the story of ac), here's an established couple that nojima wrote where he's all 'i'm going to fuck shit up here and make drama'

i'm not really going anywhere with this

just don't you think that's

interesting

I have been secretly, somewhat guiltily, thinking this.

Spoiler

It always seemed obvious to me that this was about a relationship sorting out their issues and never got the whole "omg square wuld never do that, relationships should only be romantic!"

I'm not a big fan of comparing couples, but if people want to bring up Yuna loving Tidus when he's gone, then you've got to point out that Yuna and Tidus still having issues because -gasp- not everything always is immediately happily ever after.

Also, from where I'm standing, C/T fot off hell of a lot better off that Yuna and Tidus are now.

It goes vice versa. There's tons of fans stressing about Yuna and Tidus breaking up, makes me want to pull them aside and tell them that no, no- This is Nojima's thing. He isn't interesting in writing epic romances, he's interested in writing ones that are continually challenged and must learn to grow.

 

[The Twilight Mexican]

Yeah, I have little doubt those two will end up back together. When they do, it won't mean they never had problems.