The Official "How many parts?" Thread

How many parts do you think it's gonna be?

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Obsidian Fire

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To refresh everyone's memory of where exactly the story of FFVII goes... Here's a handy set of maps I traced out... and then promptly looked and and was like... "No way is the rest of the OG happening in only two more games."

Pre-Airship (Midgar -- Northern Crater)
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Post-Airship (Junon -- Northern Crater)
WM-ffvii-tex - route_post-airship.png
The reason why some of these lines overlap is because you have to travel the same route a few times over....

And this doesn't even get into the fact that in terms of the OG's *script*, 2/3s of the game happens before you get the Airship. The half-way point of the game is right about 0when you get the Keystone of the Ancients and go to Gold Saucer for the second time. The 2/3rds mark is when Northern Crater happens. This is also the last time Sephrioth ever talks in the OG.

The rest of the game is... essentially post-game grinding and hte Huge Materia quest. It narrativly isn't long at all. And Sephrioth is all but forgotten by the plot.

Needless to say... I think post-Northern Crater will be getting a heavy re-write so Sephrioth sticks around after Cloud and Tifa are in the Lifestream. He's too iconic to leave out now. There is also a truely rediculous ammount of back-and-forth between Gold Saucer and a few other places on the Western Continent given how the travel type lay-out of the OG is. Just... the plot on the Western Continent really needs some streamlining and some new beats to make it more logical for why people are going where and how they know to find certain things.

And then you start factoring all the *locations* across all this stuff... and custom cut-scene animations and dialouge and the new Compilation locations and characters.. and...

Yeah... definetly not a trilogy. At least four games. Probably five more like it.
 

Theozilla

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You guys are forgetting all the Compilation stuff and broken destiny stuff they’re putting in there. Why even bother trying to predict it anymore?
C'mon don't go fishing for debate (even if it was unintentional) that already got its own thread split off for it. Various people have already stated their stances on the subject multiple times now.
 

Makoeyes987

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There are only 3 Compilation exclusive locations that would even be used and two of them are adjacent to locations already part of the plot. Not to mention, those two locations are completely abandoned. So, what would even happen there? An optional dungeon?

And Healin? What would go on there? Not much.

In regards to the plot derrived from the Arbiters of Fate, that's what the Northern Crater is for. :monster:
 

OWA-2

Pro Adventurer
I'm not expecting the other parts to get the midgar treatment, because if that happened the remake would finish in 2040. That being said, I'm not convinced that they can cover such a massive amount of material, fleshing it out to modern standards, in two games.

As a reminder, we still have: Kalm, the Nibelheim flashback, chocobo ranch, the marshes, the mithril mines, Fort Condor (?), Junon, the boat trip, Costa Del Sol, Corel, Gold Saucer, The Desert Prison with Dyne material, Gongaga, Cosmo Canyon, The Ghi material in the caves underneath, Nibelheim again, Shinra Mansion with Vincent and Sephiroth, the mountains with that annoying spider boss, Rocket Town, sailing in the Tiny Bronco, Gold Saucer again, the date with someone, the temple of the ancients and the heavy plot stuff that goes down there, Gongaga again, Bone Village and the digging for the Lunar Harp, The Sleeping Forest, the Forgotten Capital or whatever it's called, the Icicle Inn village with the Gast material, the snowboarding, the travel through the snow and mountains, the North Crater with the big drama material, the Highwind Execution stuff and the escape, Mideel, the big Materia Quests which involve the train and Corel challenge, the Mideel Cloud and Tifa psychological bit, Rocket Town again and travelling through space, Return to Midgar and settling things with Hojo, Wutai with the Yuffie material, the actual crater area, and finally the battle with Sephiroth.

Have fun breaking that -- in a modern, fleshed out style, where certain things could well be expanded upon, like Lucrecia or Zack -- into two games.

AND the submarine!

It's a lot of stuff.
 

Tetsujin

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I do wonder at what point we'll know how many parts it's gonna be. Now that they're working on part 2 they should probably have a clearer picture and soon be able to tell us either "part 3 is gonna be the end" or "still don't know how many but it's definitely more than 3 lol"
 

Ite

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Ite
C'mon don't go fishing for debate (even if it was unintentional) that already got its own thread split off for it. Various people have already stated their stances on the subject multiple times now.

It was a genuine reply to the conversation at hand. The question “are future parts going to be expanded like Midgar” has a clear answer: YES. Part 1 didn’t just pad for runtime, it added an entire new A Plot which is going to run parallel to the plot of the OG start to finish. Take your most conservative estimate for number of parts and double it.
 

OWA-2

Pro Adventurer
To refresh everyone's memory of where exactly the story of FFVII goes... Here's a handy set of maps I traced out... and then promptly looked and and was like... "No way is the rest of the OG happening in only two more games."

Pre-Airship (Midgar -- Northern Crater)
View attachment 9891

Post-Airship (Junon -- Northern Crater)
View attachment 9892
The reason why some of these lines overlap is because you have to travel the same route a few times over....

And this doesn't even get into the fact that in terms of the OG's *script*, 2/3s of the game happens before you get the Airship. The half-way point of the game is right about 0when you get the Keystone of the Ancients and go to Gold Saucer for the second time. The 2/3rds mark is when Northern Crater happens. This is also the last time Sephrioth ever talks in the OG.

The rest of the game is... essentially post-game grinding and hte Huge Materia quest. It narrativly isn't long at all. And Sephrioth is all but forgotten by the plot.

Needless to say... I think post-Northern Crater will be getting a heavy re-write so Sephrioth sticks around after Cloud and Tifa are in the Lifestream. He's too iconic to leave out now. There is also a truely rediculous ammount of back-and-forth between Gold Saucer and a few other places on the Western Continent given how the travel type lay-out of the OG is. Just... the plot on the Western Continent really needs some streamlining and some new beats to make it more logical for why people are going where and how they know to find certain things.

And then you start factoring all the *locations* across all this stuff... and custom cut-scene animations and dialouge and the new Compilation locations and characters.. and...

Yeah... definetly not a trilogy. At least four games. Probably five more like it.

If it's 5 games, and they take around 3 years to make each one... Damn! That's too much time! People could end up losing interest much before it's end.
 

Makoeyes987

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The world will be part of the Universal Singularity by the time a Part 8 of the FFVII Remake comes out. So I'm doubtful :monster:

If it's 5 games, and they take around 3 years to make each one... Damn! That's too much time! People could end up losing interest much before it's end.

If it takes them 3 years to do every part, then something is seriously wrong.

That'd be Versus XIII all over again, lol
 

OWA-2

Pro Adventurer
The world will be part of the Universal Singularity by the time a Part 8 of the FFVII Remake comes out. So I'm doubtful :monster:



If it takes them 3 years to do every part, then something is seriously wrong.

That'd be Versus XIII all over again, lol

I assume each one will take 3 years, because that's the normal time for an AAA game to be made. Part 1 took 5 years, but if we exclude all the problems involved with CyberConnect, it probably took 3. And Part 2 will probably come in 2023, so another 3 years. So on and so forth.
 
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Ite

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I am truly anticipating 5+ games with 2-3 years and between each one, with a DLC hopscotching between them. I can see the finale being a PS6 exclusive, and the thought doesn’t even offend me.
 

Makoeyes987

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The developers simultaneously work on multiple parts at once (which is common for video game studios), and they can reuse assets, programming and knowledge so they aren't starting from zero for each part.

I'd expect two years give or take. Maybe one installment might take 3 years due to unforseen circumstances, but all of them?

That would be strange and unfortunate.
 

Ite

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Ite
The developers simultaneously work on multiple parts at once (which is common for video game studios), and they can reuse assets, programming and knowledge so they aren't starting from zero for each part.

I'd expect two years give or take. Maybe one installment might take 3 years due to unforseen circumstances, but all of them?

That would be strange and unfortunate.

This is gonna be one of those threads we reread in 2030. If you’re right, we’ll know by 2030, and I’ll be one happily surprised mother%#*$
 

Makoeyes987

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::The year is 2030. The ice caps have melted and covid-26 ravages the globe as people refuse to wear the necessary breathing masks to prevent them from mutating into pangolin-bat hybrids. NATO has collapsed and Trump is on the campaign trail for his fourth term. America is a Mad Max Hellscape.::

Me hiding within underground city ruins: So, I'm pretty optimistic the Remake series could wrap itself up by 2041 before mankind is ushered into the Human Instrumentality Project. That just seems like a safe assumption to make. :monster:
 

OWA-2

Pro Adventurer
The developers simultaneously work on multiple parts at once (which is common for video game studios), and they can reuse assets, programming and knowledge so they aren't starting from zero for each part.

I'd expect two years give or take. Maybe one installment might take 3 years due to unforseen circumstances, but all of them?

That would be strange and unfortunate.

Do you think Part 2 could be coming next year?
 

Makoeyes987

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Do you think Part 2 could be coming next year?

I think we'll hear about Part 2 before the year's end and we'll get it in 2023.

With Part 1 for the PS5 completed, they'll have 2 and some years to get Part 2 for the PS5, and they won't be divided on developing both for PS4, and PS5.

After that, each installment should come sooner, especially since they'll have more assets they can reuse.
 

Obsidian Fire

Ahk Morn!
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The Engineer
Do you think Part 2 could be coming next year?
Unlikely. FFXVI already has a trailer drop for it and it's a completely new FF game. And it's not releasing in 2021. People are hoping for 2022 at earliest. We don't even know Part 2's name and tagline yet.

As it is, FFVII has Integrade and 1st SOLDIER releasing this year and Ever Crisis next year. Which is going to be updating constantly for a few months *at least*. So FFVII has stuff to tide people over going into 2022.

This doesn't matter for console players, but for PC players... we still don't have Remake yet. And the release date got pushed forward another six months due to Integrade releasing and exclusivity deals. So at bare minimum... PC is looking at Remake *maybe* releasing in early 2022 at the *earliest*. I know I'm not really looking for anything about Part 2 until it gets confirmed/denied what the PC release schedule for Remake is going to look like.
 

OWA-2

Pro Adventurer
I think we'll hear about Part 2 before the year's end and we'll get it in 2023.

With Part 1 for the PS5 completed, they'll have 2 and some years to get Part 2 for the PS5, and they won't be divided on developing both for PS4, and PS5.

After that, each installment should come sooner, especially since they'll have more assets they can reuse.

3 years then...

Makoeyes987 said:
I'd expect two years give or take. Maybe one installment might take 3 years due to unforseen circumstances

I guess the unforseen circumstance was Covid then.
 

Roundhouse

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FF7 Timeline:

- Remake announced and everyone cheers.

- Remake comes in parts announcement. Everyone: Err....well, still great!

- Remake part one only covers Midgar announcement. Everyone: Uhhhh......errr......well....hey, okay.

- Remake P2 ends after Junon announcement. Everyone: Well......erm.......there is still time to finish the remake in the third part!
 
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OWA-2

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As it is, FFVII has Integrade and 1st SOLDIER releasing this year and Ever Crisis next year. Which is going to be updating constantly for a few months *at least*. So FFVII has stuff to tide people over going into 2022.

Going off topic here, but I wonder if they will release some EC chapters that go beyond Midgar, in 2022. Probably not, since it will spoil some stuff of Remake 2, but still... I'm curious.
 
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