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To be fair to xbox, I read an article that said most early demos in e3 are run on PCs. It's not an xbox thing. The pessimist answer is that it's a trick because PCs look better, the optimist because specs on the game (and probably the console as of now) just aren't finalized yet.
In immortal words of Barret Wallace, "There ain't no gettin' off of this train we on!"
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Kermitu Kleric Katie
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Im gonna go ahead and quote my what makes your day mark 2 poast
Also, there is no way an XBOne would fit in my house. I literally have 0 rooms where I have the 10 feet of space needed for Kinect. The only rooms with that much space are the dining rooms and my parents' room, both of which would require the removal of large and important furniture to be removed to have enough room. I couldn't get an XBOne even if I wanted. I also don't care if Microsoft drops out of the console race, as Sony still has Nintendo to compete with them, so long as they stay in the computer race, 'cause if they drop out of that one then Apple would have no major competitors, ad competition is a good thing for companies.
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#5: Didn't see this with PS4 either.
#4: Lots of those games had playable demos AT E3 and showed gameplay, too. Kinda gonna have to say this is a bit of a false claim for insinuating that the others didn't.
#3: This is assuming that you don't already own one of those things, AND are interested in using it for gameplay. Also- the WiiU doesn't let you use their controller as a separate device, so it's really a rather bad comparison.
#2: Same with most of the PS4/PS3 Move functionality.
#1: All the claims aside from price are the same as the PS4, bu I feel the need to comment that the WiiU is like .5 to next generation, because SO many of its titles seem to be ones from the current generation that then Wii couldn't handle.
Still, WiiU, PC, PS4, whatever seems to be a better option at this point.
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#5: Didn't see this with PS4 either.
#4: Lots of those games had playable demos AT E3 and showed gameplay, too. Kinda gonna have to say this is a bit of a false claim for insinuating that the others didn't.
#3: This is assuming that you don't already own one of those things, AND are interested in using it for gameplay. Also- the WiiU doesn't let you use their controller as a separate device, so it's really a rather bad comparison.
#2: Same with most of the PS4/PS3 Move functionality.
#1: All the claims aside from price are the same as the PS4, bu I feel the need to comment that the WiiU is like .5 to next generation, because SO many of its titles seem to be ones from the current generation that then Wii couldn't handle.
Still, WiiU, PC, PS4, whatever seems to be a better option at this point.
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Out of respect for this fantastically successful rick roll, I actually sat and listened to the whole thing.
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Some utterly despicable behaviour from Xbox Support.
http://xsoldier.tumblr.com/post/53091931923/fancifuldancingstar-wmill-browningtons
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wait...what?
Geostigma
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Misread.
Actually whats happening is this phil guy (@oasissupernova) is tweeting alot of shit thats on scale of uber fanboy and insulting anyone complaining about Xbox1's terrible policies.
Then Xbox support posted that image and told phil thanks and that they couldnt be so awesome without fans like him
Misread.
Actually whats happening is this phil guy (@oasissupernova) is tweeting alot of shit thats on scale of uber fanboy and insulting anyone complaining about Xbox1's terrible policies.
Then Xbox support posted that image and told phil thanks and that they couldnt be so awesome without fans like him
Flintlock
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^ That's awesome, and I don't even watch Game of Thrones.
Someone claiming to be an engineer at Microsoft working on the Xbox One has written this defence of the new console. It's obviously a lot of spin, but you know what, he manages to spin it a lot more successfully than Microsoft did themselves.
Someone claiming to be an engineer at Microsoft working on the Xbox One has written this defence of the new console. It's obviously a lot of spin, but you know what, he manages to spin it a lot more successfully than Microsoft did themselves.
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^^You know the situations bad when the engineers can make a better case for your selling model then the PR team can.
I'm still laughing at how even he admits that if you want the status quo to stay the same as it was with the 360 and play next-gen games you should get a PS4...
I'm still laughing at how even he admits that if you want the status quo to stay the same as it was with the 360 and play next-gen games you should get a PS4...
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Thats actally a copy/paste meme thats making the rounds on reddit and 4chan and is meant to be nothing more then a troll
The truth is that if that really was MS's spin it would be a load of shit
Digital content with all that shiny DRM for games already exists, digital day 1 games still cost 60$ on all digital platforms (Origin and Steam included), despite the fact that devs and publishers would still yield higher profit margins off of that sell over a boxed sell.
Flintlock
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But Mass Effect was £59.99 in stores as well, right? I wouldn't be surprised if its publishers were obliged to sell it at the same price both online and offline. Otherwise, if it was half the price online, why would anyone buy if from a store, and thus why would any store want to stock it?
It's not exactly the same scenario as the pastebin post (which I suspected may have been fake, but thought was worth sharing anyway) described.
It's not exactly the same scenario as the pastebin post (which I suspected may have been fake, but thought was worth sharing anyway) described.
Geostigma
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Fair enough.
But take into account Steam and Origin which are PC only with very similar DRM policies to that of Xbox1. Sure you can go look for the same game at a wal mart or best buy but generally the Steam and Origin are the preferred method to get PC games.
Yet the games digital counter parts are still the same price as the more expensive to manufacture; boxed versions. The only times these games are any cheaper are during Steams awesome summer sales or during promotional periods well after the games day 1 release.
At the end of the day im just not convinced. The theory is flawed and if it really was MS's spin then it would be a lie because the games would definitely not be any cheaper. Steam makes a profit and can do the summer sales because the games are purely digital. Thats not the case with Xbox 1 due to the cost of manufacturing the discs and packaging so cost would still be up, the DRM policy is not what makes the games cheap on Steam.
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No it wasn't £59.99 in stores. It was max £49.99 in retail stores and £39.99 on Amazon. I got the limited collector's edition from Amazon for £44.99 and it was a pre-order.
That's what I'm saying, the digital versions of everything should be far cheaper and they're not, they're almost always far more expensive - the digital pricing makes no sense.
EDIT: I'm obviously talking about consoles here (particularly PS3/PSN). The PC version of any multiplatform game is almost always £10 cheaper on PC for a physical copy than the console counterpart on day of release, but the digital version on PC will be the same as the retail physical copy.
EDIT 2: The reason Mass Effect 3 stands out to me so much is because the game went down in price quite quickly after launch - in retail stores it went from £40-50 to around £20-30 in a matter of a couple of months (for a new copy, not preowned), and the price remained £59.99 on PSN for at least 6 months. I remember seeing it every time I logged into PSN and wondering who the hell would pay that much for it when you can get the physical copy for a third of the price. It also stood out because games usually launch at $59.99 in the US and £39.99 here, so the USD conversion was dramatic to an almost Australian level.
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laurence
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Has anyone heard about the 'updated' sharing policy? Supposedly any 10 selected people can access your shared game library and play from it at a given time.
As far as I'm aware only 1 family member can play a game at a time. I take it that includes the owner of the game license. So if he's playing the game, then no one else can. When he's done with it, 1 of the 10 friends in line can then play it. When he decides to play again maybe his friend will automatically be kicked from the game (which can lead to some nasty friendships). So depending on what type of friends you select it may well become a tedious process, where it's just more convenient to buy the game in the first place.
I can see however where this feature will be of use to some gamers, greatly so in some cases, but it's so opaque atm, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some other big catch behind it.
As far as I'm aware only 1 family member can play a game at a time. I take it that includes the owner of the game license. So if he's playing the game, then no one else can. When he's done with it, 1 of the 10 friends in line can then play it. When he decides to play again maybe his friend will automatically be kicked from the game (which can lead to some nasty friendships). So depending on what type of friends you select it may well become a tedious process, where it's just more convenient to buy the game in the first place.
I can see however where this feature will be of use to some gamers, greatly so in some cases, but it's so opaque atm, I wouldn't be surprised if there's some other big catch behind it.
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AngryJoe covered this a bit too, I think. It was initially supposed to be up to 10 "family members" but despite the shitty PR I don't think Microsoft are idiots - they knew there were people who are obviously just going to include friends on that list anyway. AJ's interview during E3 seems to have implications that this was already the message going on, but Microsoft simply failed to send it properly.
On the whole, I don't think this policy drastically changes publisher/developer sales, besides the fact that 10 is a rather high limit for what is essentially a free sharing system. There probably are additional requirements to this system (like perhaps a Gold subscription) and probably restrictions (likely no shared multiplayer component), and there could be plenty other ways to cut down on carefree game sharing, like region restrictions and what-not.
One thing it might affect is price drops - it could be a possibility that because of the sharing feature available, tail price points may actually drop a lot slower to compensate for the fact that they're essentially selling 10 free copies of the game. But that's just speculation from me
Still, it's an interesting policy and there are lots of other things to take note of: for example, I believe DLC is actually shared across the shared game library, meaning it only needs to be purchased once for all 10 people to have access to it. AJ also said that XBL Gold subscriptions are now tethered to the console itself, rather than the account. I think that's a bit odd, tbh.
There are also other issues that need to be ironed out, like the fairly small range of countries that will have the Xbox One at launch, but I think on the whole they're not actually planning to dominate the launch date - rather, they're putting out a staggered approach to console release in different countries. I believe it was similar to the way the 360 was launched, since it didn't simultaneously launch in all countries worldwide - but in this case it's probably due more to the availability of the Live Gold service and legal issues with the Kinect services that they probably haven't settled with governments yet.
On the whole, I don't think this policy drastically changes publisher/developer sales, besides the fact that 10 is a rather high limit for what is essentially a free sharing system. There probably are additional requirements to this system (like perhaps a Gold subscription) and probably restrictions (likely no shared multiplayer component), and there could be plenty other ways to cut down on carefree game sharing, like region restrictions and what-not.
One thing it might affect is price drops - it could be a possibility that because of the sharing feature available, tail price points may actually drop a lot slower to compensate for the fact that they're essentially selling 10 free copies of the game. But that's just speculation from me
Still, it's an interesting policy and there are lots of other things to take note of: for example, I believe DLC is actually shared across the shared game library, meaning it only needs to be purchased once for all 10 people to have access to it. AJ also said that XBL Gold subscriptions are now tethered to the console itself, rather than the account. I think that's a bit odd, tbh.
There are also other issues that need to be ironed out, like the fairly small range of countries that will have the Xbox One at launch, but I think on the whole they're not actually planning to dominate the launch date - rather, they're putting out a staggered approach to console release in different countries. I believe it was similar to the way the 360 was launched, since it didn't simultaneously launch in all countries worldwide - but in this case it's probably due more to the availability of the Live Gold service and legal issues with the Kinect services that they probably haven't settled with governments yet.
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