lithiumkatana17
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To quote Honest Game Trailers...
Aerith or Aeris?
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micknutson9
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Well... Her Romanji name was spelled Erisu and from what I gathered, it could be translated to either Aeris or Aerith in the English language. Neither iteration of the name is wrong. I guess it's just personal preference for what they like to go with.
Lex
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What about Aerish? Everybody wins!
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JBedford
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The romanisation/romaji for her name is Earisu.
You're not wrong, when transcribing a word into Japanese, "s" may represent either the "s" or "th" sounds.
But we know Aeris's name is meant to resemble "earth", we know the ス/su sound in her name comes from the English ending "th" sound in "earth".
It's not a case of "ス>s" v. "ス>th". It's a case of "th>ス>s" v. "th>ス>th". That sound was the English "th" sound to begin with, so transating it "Aeris" misses the point.
(I still sometimes call her Aeris, but I'm not going to claim it can be translated either way and is equally correct)
Channy
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Really? We're all just gonna let that slide?
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Ryushikaze
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I'd call it not giving it the time of day.
leadmyskeptic
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It IS a lispy muthatruckin' variation. I think that's what it is, that I can't think of a single person's name in English that ends in "th", but I can think of a million that end with S. It sets it apart from all the other members of the main cast of FFVII....well, except for Cait Sith (who I'm still just calling kate sith, cos fuck it)
ForceStealer
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Square says it's Aerith, so it's Aerith. What does bug me is when people list "Aeris" as an example of FF7's shoddy translation. It is a completely valid romanization of エアリス.
And "Aeris" doesn't even really ruin the symbolism either, given it's homophone-ness to "heiress."
And "Aeris" doesn't even really ruin the symbolism either, given it's homophone-ness to "heiress."
Ryushikaze
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Ruth?
Heath?
It's not common, but it's not unheard of, and neither Aeris or Aerith are real names anyways.
Pixel
The Pixie King
Erith: Resembling a flower, derived from Hebrew origins
http://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Erith
http://www.babynamespedia.com/meaning/Erith
Starling
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Beth, Annabeth, Elizabeth, Keith, Ruth, Seth, Smith, Meredith, Marth, Garth, Janeth, Lilith, Gareth, Daveth, Emeth, Delith, Heath, Erith, Neith, Dorith, Harith, Faith, Braith, Hyacinth, Macbeth. There are likely far more than that.
leadmyskeptic
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Wow, y'all CRUSHED my statement. Good call. I legitimately did not think of any of those, even the common ones (like Ruth), I'm not sure why. And I have a close FRIEND named Keith! I thought I had put my finger on what bothers me about it, other than just the change from my nostalgic associations, cos there IS something...still not sure what it is, though. But yeah, I accept that she is most definitely, canonically, irretrievably Aerith now. I just don't like it : )
Edit: Wait, you're not telling me you've actually heard of people (not in fantasy worlds) named Daveth? Or Emeth?
Edit: Wait, you're not telling me you've actually heard of people (not in fantasy worlds) named Daveth? Or Emeth?
Starling
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Aside from nostalgia, you may simply have a preference for the way the name sounds ending with s instead of th, the same way some words are pronounced differently in certain regions. Canada's spelling is somewhere in between British and American english so the different spellings of some words like grey/gray are often used interchangeably without much issue, so long as you stay consistent within a particular text. Specifically regarding the Aeris/Aerith issue, I never understood the argument that the latter one sounds lispy, nor why it became such a big deal when I don't really see it get that bad with other inconsistent name spellings.
Lex
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Both common Welsh names.
Also can we stress the fact that "Aerith" isn't "lispy" at all, people only think it's "lispy" because they're thinking of "Aeris" when they say it. If it had never been localised as "Aeris" nobody would think twice about "Aerith", and nobody would be saying "wow that's a lispy name".
I might be biased given that my mother's name is Elizabeth. It's not like I spent my life going "I MEAN IT REALLY SHOULD BE ELIZABES BECAUSE IT SOUNDS LISPY".
The Twilight Mexican
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Aerith probably has the coolest -- and most abundant -- series of unrelated coincidence involving words that her name could believably have been derived from. You've got these two as well as Eris, the Greek goddess of strife, but her name is officially just the word "Earth" transliterated into Japanese katakana.
Octo
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Pixel
The Pixie King
I wonder if the early art of her with the name writter Earith was originally what they were going to go with, but changed it, or if it was just a mixup
http://thelifestream.net/lifestream...520-of-the-final-fantasy-vii-ultimania-omega/
http://thelifestream.net/lifestream...520-of-the-final-fantasy-vii-ultimania-omega/
Channy
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That is probably the most apt comparison for this thread; except Pluto is totally a planet.
I also dug this up and I'm trying to find some pictures because I know I read Earith on a card somewhere printed/merch.
http://www.ff7citadel.com/secrets/sa_names.shtml
Whoa whoa whoa, do not disregard Cloud's name with its reference to his wandering/drifting and fluffy whiteness.
Ite
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In addition to Eris being a complementary nod to Cloud's last name, there is also the Greek Eros, God of love and passion. And as it has already been mentioned, Aeris also evokes "heiress" as in she is the true inheritor of the Cetra's mission, not Sephiroth. I think these are all more interesting characternym implications, and going from that to the very heavy-handed "Earth" 'nym feels like a dumbing-down. In the context of the Compilation, where still more things were simplified or else made entirely incomprehensible, the nerd-rage is strong where Ertha is concerned.
I didn't know about the Hebrew name for flower, though! That's kind of a consolation prize, kind of like pictures of Pluto, even though it's only a planetoid now.
I didn't know about the Hebrew name for flower, though! That's kind of a consolation prize, kind of like pictures of Pluto, even though it's only a planetoid now.