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A thought- Moffat keeps killing Rory or very nearly.
This is going to get us expecting his death and immediate recovery.
Then Moffat is going to kill someone else we quite like.

It's been done before, quite effectively. Cait Sith's revolving door death and then SHANK.
I'm almost hoping that nothing of the sort happens, now, because that would be unexpected.

My thoughts exactly. They did the same thing on Sym-Bionic Titan, with several near deaths, death revival, and then killed another character off very unexpectedly. I fear to think Who it might be.


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[Ryushikaze]

It can't be the doctor for real, but a mid season Dead Doctor followed by a remainder season of trying to bring him back would make for a rather good narrative as our companions turned TARDIS owners tried to figure out the controls and fudge with time to bring the Doctor Back.

But on the other hand, killing someone off for real while dropping such obvious clues is almost un moffat like. Better to leave them squirming.

 

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It can't be the doctor for real, but a mid season Dead Doctor followed by a remainder season of trying to bring him back would make for a rather good narrative as our companions turned TARDIS owners tried to figure out the controls and fudge with time to bring the Doctor Back.

But on the other hand, killing someone off for real while dropping such obvious clues is almost un moffat like. Better to leave them squirming.

I feel the same way.

I'm more worried that the mysterious Eye Patch Lady (possible Cyberman) is going to somehow kidnap Amy. With her Schrodinger baby, she's pretty important, and I think someone else may attempt to use that. I wouldn't be surprised if we get cliffhung with Amy being taken, but it still doesn't feel completely right...


UPDATE: io9's COMPLETELY NON-SPOILER REVIEW said that The Doctor's Wife is excellent.


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[Ryushikaze]

Here's a thought- Rory and Amy are the Doctor's eldest companion's ever. Sort of.

Granted, Romana and the doctor both lied about their ages, even to each other, but Romana probably wasn't over 1000. Rory and Amy are now over 2000, at least as far as memory is concerned. For Amy, that's a pretty dull 2000 years, though Rory had a few interesting scuff ups in the interim.

They're actually older than the Doctor. Which is odd. They don't have nearly the depth or breadth of his experience in that time, but it's still odd.

And yes, Jack is even older still, but only after he's stopped travelling with the doctor.

Also, Amy's very sudden and jarring tossing herself at the Doctor that basically went nowhere fast? People are suspecting the Silence are involved. I'm definitely going to go back and check out Silence and last season for the most likely Silence moments.

I wonder if he tossed any into Blink.

 

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Here's a thought- Rory and Amy are the Doctor's eldest companion's ever. Sort of.

Granted, Romana and the doctor both lied about their ages, even to each other, but Romana probably wasn't over 1000. Rory and Amy are now over 2000, at least as far as memory is concerned. For Amy, that's a pretty dull 2000 years, though Rory had a few interesting scuff ups in the interim.

They're actually older than the Doctor. Which is odd. They don't have nearly the depth or breadth of his experience in that time, but it's still odd.

Well, not really.

Rory isn't 2000+, because he wasn't ever really an auton. Amy re-created him during Big Bang 2, along with her parents. When he was re-created from her memories, she remember the Rory that was an Auton, so he was created that way when everything came back in 6/26/2010. He may have memories of being around 2000 years through the door in his head, but it's not something that's continually active.

Also, Amy was near death/unconscious during her entire time in the Pandorica, untill Starless Amelia Pond's DNA regenerated her, so her memories don't span 2000 years, or anywhere NEAR what Rory's got going on. She's essentially still normal in that department.

Also, Amy's very sudden and jarring tossing herself at the Doctor that basically went nowhere fast? People are suspecting the Silence are involved. I'm definitely going to go back and check out Silence and last season for the most likely Silence moments.

I wonder if he tossed any into Blink.

I still think that it comes down to her fairytales and such that's going to be investigated more closely this season. Amy's conversations in the TARDIS during The Lodger are supposed to seem VERY much like the Silence are involved from what I hear, I haven't gone back and watched it again yet. I didn't notice anything in Blink, aside from the end, where the Doctor receives images of Angels, and takes them back to 1969.


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[Ryushikaze]

Well, not really.

Hence the 'Sort of.'

Rory isn't 2000+, because he wasn't ever really an auton. Amy re-created him during Big Bang 2, along with her parents. When he was re-created from her memories, she remember the Rory that was an Auton, so he was created that way when everything came back in 6/26/2010. He may have memories of being around 2000 years through the door in his head, but it's not something that's continually active.

Yeah, but the times when it is open, he's mentally been 'around' longer than the Doctor, assuming the Doctor's not lying that ridiculously much about his age. Which he probably is.

Also, Amy was near death/unconscious during her entire time in the Pandorica, untill Starless Amelia Pond's DNA regenerated her, so her memories don't span 2000 years, or anywhere NEAR what Rory's got going on. She's essentially still normal in that department.

Like I said, her 2000 would have been pretty dull, though that is assuming she was awake for it all.

I still think that it comes down to her fairytales and such that's going to be investigated more closely this season. Amy's conversations in the TARDIS during The Lodger are supposed to seem VERY much like the Silence are involved from what I hear, I haven't gone back and watched it again yet. I didn't notice anything in Blink, aside from the end, where the Doctor receives images of Angels, and takes them back to 1969.

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The Lodger has the Silence written all over it, yes. There's also apparently a bit in "Venice" where the Tardis door closes in the background and there's an accompanying sound effect as well.

 

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The Lodger has the Silence written all over it, yes. There's also apparently a bit in "Venice" where the Tardis door closes in the background and there's an accompanying sound effect as well.

Yeah, the very end of Venice has it.


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[Sheva Alomar]

So, I haven't been bothered to read a good number of the most recent posts, but I have a theory. Don't know if it's original or not, but here it goes:

Spoiler

the little girl is River Song. And is also Amy/Rory's child.

 

[Ryushikaze]

So, I haven't been bothered to read a good number of the most recent posts, but I have a theory. Don't know if it's original or not, but here it goes:

Spoiler

the little girl is River Song. And is also Amy/Rory's child.

It has been suggested several times. And the problem with it is that it's almost TOO neat and simple a solution. Which isn't to say it's a bad thought, but it's one of those thoughts that's so obvious it must be wrong, like the 'reveal' of the killer in the first act of a detective novel being a set up to hide the real killer.

 

[Mantichorus]

That eyepatch lady still has me wondering... Do her earrings make anyone else think of the headsets that the pre-converted Cybermen had been frequently seen with in the pre-11th Doctor episodes from the alternate universe? Could they have found a way to observe this reality again after Big Bang 2, or are they doing something else?

Spoiler: Image from this Episode

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Would explain why the Cybermen show up later this season... hmm...

And I made a typo in my last post -

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it's The Rebel Flesh, not Rebel FLASH.

Amy's behaviour at the beginning of Curse of the Black Spot reminds me of why she annoys me at times.

Spoiler: She acts like a Mary-Sue... >_>

The pirates seem afraid of you when you've never picked up a sword in your life? Yeah, that doesn't mean you're awesome. And when they start acting like a single cut is serious business... you don't just laugh at them and swing again. *facepalm*

OK, yes, normally, it would be something to laugh about and mock them for. But normal means nothing when the Doctor's about, you should know that by now.

 

[Alex]

The pirates seem afraid of you when you've never picked up a sword in your life?

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I don't think they were afraid of HER so much as they were afraid of having their blood drawn by a crazy redhead swinging a sword with reckless abandon and no knowledge of the stroppy mermaid picking off anyone with so much as a paper cut's worth of harm done to them. At least thats how I interpreted. If that wasn't their intention, then I completely agree with you

 

[Russell]

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Doctor: She’s a woman, and she’s the TARDIS.

Amy: Did you wish really hard?

Doctor: Shut up it’s not like that.

TARDIS: Hello, I’m…… …sexy.

XD

 

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Secret message leads here:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/dw/videos/p00gygrl


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[Sheva Alomar]

Neil Gaiman is a fucking god.

 

[Ryushikaze]

The secret message itself for those who want to keep track

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to see what I saw click on the spot beyond the Doctor's home planet

And yes, damn good episode. Watched this with a brit who's staying over at my place for a few days.

I also gave him all of Doctor Who.

We noted the Irony.

 

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I will now always think about Doctor Who differently.

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It's now about an eleven dimensional being who wanted to see the universe, so she stole a mad little Time Lord and she takes him through Time and Space, wherever he needs to go.

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[Mantichorus]

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I don't think they were afraid of HER so much as they were afraid of having their blood drawn by a crazy redhead swinging a sword with reckless abandon and no knowledge of the stroppy mermaid picking off anyone with so much as a paper cut's worth of harm done to them. At least thats how I interpreted. If that wasn't their intention, then I completely agree with you

'Twas my point.

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Amy, however, seemed to think it meant she was hardcore, cos they were obviously in terror of her.

The Doctor's Wife -

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DUH, of COURSE the title refers to the TARDIS! Thick or what?

This episode was amazing. Yes, the 'twist' that Idris had become the TARDIS was obvious from the off - and, if you'd seen the pre-season trailers, it was equally obvious that the distress cube had either escaped or been deployed by House (missed a trick there, they should have gotten Hugh Laurie to voice it, rather than Michael Sheen, although he was WIN).

Suranne Jones was excellent as Idris/TARDIS. I can see why Neil enthused about her in interviews and his blog. I loved how she called the Doctor her 'thief'. Also loved the fact that by "the pretty one" she meant Rory. XD

All in all, great episode. If you haven't watched it yet, do so now. Also, watch the Doctor Who Confidental episode that accompanies it, as Neil's as awesome as he always is in these things.

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Doctor: She’s a woman, and she’s the TARDIS.

Amy: Did you wish really hard?

Doctor: Shut up it’s not like that.

TARDIS: Hello, I’m…… …sexy.

XD

^Underlined my favourite line in the show. XD

 

[sheens]

I just have one thing to say:

Neil Gaiman.

Wonderful episode. Surrane Jones was absolutely wonderful! I shed a tear. :')

 

[Russell]

Sheens where did you get that sig from?

 

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Well, I'm assuming that Doctor Who will be running a viral campaign from June to September while we wait for more episodes, so I figured that I might as well get this noted, and see if anyone else's noticed something I haven't.

Official Doctor Who Site: Fourth Dimension Italic Clues

• The Impossible Astronaut:
"All the secrets you seek can be found on the Webb."
• The Day of the Moon:
"We found your message! You're alive! But what secrets d'you mean my friend?"
• The Curse of the Black Spot:
"I mean I glimpsed him! May the gods help him or perhaps you can."
• The Doctor's Wife:
"To see what I saw click on the spot beyond the Doctor's home planet."

The period after the word Gallifrey links to this page, that I mentioned before.

• Analysis Lessons

"Hello! Hello? If you can hear me- please. Listen to me, it's about time and how very little of it I've got left. Everything that happens next depends on you." (quote from the Doctor in the video)

Now there are a LOT of hidden clues here, and I'll detail the ones that I've figured out so far:

• The Volume starts at 9 and goes to 11, which is purposefully a reference to the Doctor's progressions in the new series (and also a "This Is Spınal Tap" joke).

• The term "Analysis Lessons" is an anagram for "Lonely Assassins" which, as we learn from the tenth Doctor in his DVD clip to Sally Sparrow, was the original name for the Weeping Angels during the episode Blink.

- Note: This is mentioned by him while he's stuck in the year 1969, just after the Moon Landing, as he and Martha mention watching it. (While is the year that the Silence were discovered, unless the Eleventh Doctor crossed his own time stream when going into 1969, his younger self wouldn't have seen the Silence clip in the landing footage). What is significant about this year is that contained in the information that the Tenth Doctor used to make the DVD recordings is the photograph of the angel that Sally Sparrow gave to him. As we learn later, in Time of the Angels "that which holds the image of an angel becomes itself an angel" meaning that the photograph is an angel that's likely somewhere in 1969.

• p00gygrl: No idea yet, maybe one of you UK folks might have a better idea.



Lastly, I've added a metric fuckton of things to my tumblr about this and other things.


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[Sheva Alomar]

Dear Whovians,

Make sure that you click this here link today, May 17, 2011. You will see reason when you click.

 

[Ryushikaze]

I enjoy his 'What kind of doctor are you?' designs, though 5 should be dietician rather than vegetarian.

 

[Mantichorus]

I forgot to say -- last week, the BBC showed a Horizon documentary that featured footage of the moon-landing.

I kept an eye out, but I didn't see one of the Silence.

 

[Ryushikaze]

Not that you remember, anyways.

 

[Mantichorus]

Not that you remember, anyways.

'Twas kinda what I was trying to express with the emoticon, but hey, let's go with clearly stating stuff.

Found an awesome poster in town of van Gogh's exploding TARDIS. :3