Misterbadguy
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Kate Sihth, Yuhffy and Aeris, the holy trinity.
FINAL FANTASY VII REBIRTH ANNOUNCED
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Yeah can honestly say I've never felt inclined to prounounced it as 'Ket Shee' even with knowing that's how it should be said. Its one of those instances where its better to go with the whole pronounce it the way it looks.
Reddit is cracking me up though with how outraged some people are about it.
Reddit is cracking me up though with how outraged some people are about it.
Lulcielid
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ph14basicbitch
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The katakana is ケットシー. You can't fool me.
cold_spirit
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Definitely a miss by the localization team for me, was hoping they'd correct it from Dirge. I don't know why saying something correctly is such a big ask.
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cold_spirit
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Because Japanese isn't an endangered language and "saiyan" doesn't refer to a specific mythical creature.
Personally, I don't find " because that's what people are used to" to be a good justification. If that was a good justification for anything, we'd still be backwards in a lot of ways. But that's just me.
Personally, I don't find " because that's what people are used to" to be a good justification. If that was a good justification for anything, we'd still be backwards in a lot of ways. But that's just me.
JBedford
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Reading the whole "it makes more sense if they pronounce it how it's spelt" thing is really 
for me. Never met a Sean?
It's a real folkloric creature, the character is based on and named after it. It stands to reason it should inherit the pronunciation. Sure, they could do a Mortal Kombat Raiden and have the character have their own unique name (as a non-MK player, seems weird), but Cait Sith's not different in Japanese so why should it be in a localisation?
I'm reminded of old Dynasty Warriors dubs that had no idea how to read romanised Chinese. They weren't making anything easier reading "Cao" as "Cow", they were just being embarassingly wrong.
If Cait Sith had been voice acted incorrectly for the 26 years, a few people might have saw Remake as an opportunity to change it but people couldn't be mad. But these are localisers in 2023 given the first real opportunity to establish the character's name (besides a barely remembered half mention in Dirge) and they just... decide to be wrong.
I don't even pronounce Cait Sith's name correctly and will continue not to do so, I just think it's really dumb to choose to borrow a foreign origin word but pronounce it how it's spelt.
for me. Never met a Sean?It's a real folkloric creature, the character is based on and named after it. It stands to reason it should inherit the pronunciation. Sure, they could do a Mortal Kombat Raiden and have the character have their own unique name (as a non-MK player, seems weird), but Cait Sith's not different in Japanese so why should it be in a localisation?
I'm reminded of old Dynasty Warriors dubs that had no idea how to read romanised Chinese. They weren't making anything easier reading "Cao" as "Cow", they were just being embarassingly wrong.
"Saiyan" isn't a real thing so it's just a curious localisation choice. It obscures the words origin, but then again many of the names in DB that have obvious origins to the Japanese probably aren't so to the English audience. Perhaps more importantly, it's already long and well established in the localisation.
If Cait Sith had been voice acted incorrectly for the 26 years, a few people might have saw Remake as an opportunity to change it but people couldn't be mad. But these are localisers in 2023 given the first real opportunity to establish the character's name (besides a barely remembered half mention in Dirge) and they just... decide to be wrong.
I don't even pronounce Cait Sith's name correctly and will continue not to do so, I just think it's really dumb to choose to borrow a foreign origin word but pronounce it how it's spelt.
Nanaki Skywalker
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I'm accustomed to pronouncing it as "Kate (insert the opposite of Jedi here)".
Or how about Kate Lord of the Sith?
LNK
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I agree. If something is pronounced a certain way by the one who has ownership of it, it's up to others to pronounce it the correct way. Especially if they are fully capable of doing so. It's not very difficult.
Odysseus
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It's just the Japanese word for vegetable with the syllables reversed
Yasai -> Saiya
And you could say "Kate Sihth" has been the more common pronunciation in the English community for pretty much just as long (because most people don't know better), if not in an official capacity until now.
I'm not saying it's a good thing (it's not), I'm just saying that's why they did it.
Ite
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Tried doing that when Aerith happened. Let it go lol
cold_spirit
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I actually had no strong opinions on the matter before this morning. But I think seeing hundreds of people say "told you so" is radicalizing me.
Nanaki Skywalker
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Misterbadguy
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I would've been happy with either pronunciation, I can't bring myself to think it's that big of a deal if I'm perfectly honest.
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It’s a modern day Teedus vs Tideus
KindOfBlue
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Speaking of pronunciation of words borrowed from other languages, Kuraudo Sutoraifu has far too many syllables for my poor English-speaking brain
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Misterbadguy
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Really wasn't expecting any more significant marketing until December but here we are. I'll be genuinely surprised if they don't give Vincent a proper reveal here.
ph14basicbitch
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Every time I see an, "I told you so", I think to myself, "Ah, British imperialism" thanks to this tweet:
cold_spirit
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I should shut up about it, but... The reason Aeris -> Aerith doesn't get a rise out of me is because SE owns the character. If they wanted to name her "SLAM DUNK" so that when Sephiroth kills her from above, Cloud screams "SLAM DUNK!", that's their prerogative.
However, beyond what I stated before (Gaelic being endangered), SE is borrowing both the name and design of the mythical Cait Sith, and giving him a Scottish accent to boot. So it's kinda weird to not honor the original pronunciationand lowkey xenophobic of some fans to celebrate the news. Just another sad cliff note in the long history of English pushing out and erasing other cultures.
Alright, stepping off the podium.
However, beyond what I stated before (Gaelic being endangered), SE is borrowing both the name and design of the mythical Cait Sith, and giving him a Scottish accent to boot. So it's kinda weird to not honor the original pronunciation
Alright, stepping off the podium.
Golden Ear
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Ahhhh SLAM DUNK, a mis-pronunciation of how she should be called - SLUM DRUNK.
Wol
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"Similar to FF7R, there will be elements in the story that will make you go “wait, what?” With that being said, I think those elements will probably be more at the forefront than in the previous game."
Scary asf
FFVIIR new artificial story additions only watered down the emotional gravitas to me. I hope it will be done better here.