Hopes for Remake & Rebirth (story/content)
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LicoriceAllsorts
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Does he? Cool!
Vyzzuvazzadth
Yazzavedth Zayann
Palmer is a left-behind tentacle of Jenova confirmed!
trash panda
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Plus he bounced. My dad says if you fall and hit your head on the floor, you'll be okay so long as your head bounces. So I'm applying that same logic here. If a truck hits you and you bounce into the next dimension, you're still alive for all intents and purposes. 
I guess it's no longer a surprise to me that so many of our polygonal friends somehow narrowly avoided death in their entirely made-up, polygonal universe.
I guess it's no longer a surprise to me that so many of our polygonal friends somehow narrowly avoided death in their entirely made-up, polygonal universe.
Rydeen
In-KWEH-dible
This is why he is obsessed with lard. It makes him stronger.
leadmyskeptic
Pro Adventurer
Thanks for the reminder, Chip, I actually not only forgot about that, but mixed up the "doin' my boss in" with what Tseng himself actually says. So I guess...while still having a better translation, have Elena's scene stay 'ambiguous' as well? Actually, on the subject, the whole "tries to punch you before rolling out of town" bit probably isn't going to fit very well with the aesthetic of the RM, is it? Wonder what they'll do with that.
Rufus4ever
That's cool that you prefer him being dead. I don't see why he can't be dead to you. It's like this: if they leave it ambiguous, then all the people (like me) who want to believe that Rufus and Tseng and Palmer survived, can happily go on believing it, and all the people who want to believe they bought the big one can believe that. If you insist on making them unambiguously dead, then half the fandom is disappointed. Is that fair? I don't see why we need to insist on these definitive answers. It's like the LTD. So many people demanding to know "but which one does he reeeaaallly love?" and totally ignoring all the other things these two pairings are telling us about relationships. We need to learn to tolerate uncertainty.
I didn't articulate this in my original post properly, but yes, I am ONE HUNDRED PERCENT for ambiguity...I suppose the "King Fish" (to quote a ridiculous translation from the og, lol) of this would be the game's actual ending, the 'does humanity survive?' bit. I guess what I was trying to get across was "I hope they maintain faithfulness to the original in terms of the way these things are presented"...by which I mean, I don't need definitive 'answers', but I felt that w/ both Rufus and Tseng, the implication towards death was pretty strong, which still leaves ambiguity without feeling like almost all of the major characters are 'death-nerfed'. You know what I mean? That feeling like shit is really going down by the end of the game, especially in terms of the original Big Bad (Shinra)'s crew getting tossed around like rag dolls. To have what (in my opinion) was strongly suggested, but not outright demonstrated, suddenly be definitive would be just as disappointing to me as the reverse.
As for Palmer, I could give a shit less about that goof, lol. His demise doesn't hold the "oh shit" factor that people like Tseng and Rufus has to begin with, so. Sure, have him show up in a full-body cast for those late game Shinra meetings. Oh! I would love to see his "Honey Bee Inn" scenes restored, tho!
LicoriceAllsorts
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I agree. But I guess he doesn't deserve that much character building.
Rydeen
In-KWEH-dible
That bit about ambiguity is so true. I've noticed a common theme in Japanese media wherein ambiguity is used as a rhetorical device, and creators are often irritated when fans want to be spoon fed definitive answers on metaphors and pairings. Hideaki Anno is a notable figure. They want the player/viewer to derive their own meaning from their work.
Jairus
Author of FFVII: Lifestream & FFVII: Reflections
If you read On the Way to a Smile: Episode Shinra, it tells how Rufus survived. He actually did get pretty banged up, and so the wheelchair wasn't just a facade, he really did need it somewhat. He wasn't crippled, but he did take a beating that took a while for him to recover from. I don't know if that still qualifies as perfect survival or not, I'm not sure what that term means, but I just thought I'd add that little tidbit for those who might not have known about it.
Kain424
Old Man in the Room
Nah. Throw some cure spells, and do whatever is done for a couple years spent at the Healin Lodge, and you'll be somewhat ok. He's still banged up-looking in Advent Children. But there are a number of things that have helped him look as good as he does.
1. the aforementioned magic healing and medical treatment facility work
2. he's wealthy and could easily afford the best
3. he, like the rest of the characters, is not actually a human being. We don't really know enough about their physiology to truly infer what happens to them in the event of severe burns of whatever that WEAPON attack does.
1. the aforementioned magic healing and medical treatment facility work
2. he's wealthy and could easily afford the best
3. he, like the rest of the characters, is not actually a human being. We don't really know enough about their physiology to truly infer what happens to them in the event of severe burns of whatever that WEAPON attack does.
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It would if someone chucked you into a lake instead of having you air-lifted to the nearest hospital.
3 Doesn't really mean much when there are characters with actual scars in the party.
LicoriceAllsorts
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Maybe Aerith is, in fact.... the only human.
ForceStealer
Double Growth
In fairness, Cloud shouldn't survive a 50m fall either...
Highwind
Pro Adventurer
Flowers, tho.
Vyzzuvazzadth
Yazzavedth Zayann
Multiple times!
- Fall from the Bridge in Mt. Nibel as a child.
- Fall from the Bridge in Mt. Nibel as a Shinra infantryman
- Fall into Aerith's church
Then again, Falling damage doesn't exist in any FF game, so...
Kain424
Old Man in the Room
Not to mention Dyne also survives a steep drop down a cliff.
Nothing simple about it. It is literally said that only Sephiroth can wield that sword. We see what happens when Tifa tries. She gets rekt.
Depends on how they got their scars. We don't really see that. We know sometimes guns can wreck a guy's hand (Barret and Dyne), and can kill people (Zack), but then we also get people surviving them (Vincent.. though with some scientific and magic assistance).
Truth is, we know very little about how their nervous system works. It's clear people can continue to gain strength, almost exponentially, without much muscle bulk. The physics of this universe are also up for debate.
Nothing simple about it. It is literally said that only Sephiroth can wield that sword. We see what happens when Tifa tries. She gets rekt.
Depends on how they got their scars. We don't really see that. We know sometimes guns can wreck a guy's hand (Barret and Dyne), and can kill people (Zack), but then we also get people surviving them (Vincent.. though with some scientific and magic assistance).
Truth is, we know very little about how their nervous system works. It's clear people can continue to gain strength, almost exponentially, without much muscle bulk. The physics of this universe are also up for debate.
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